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Old 12-22-2011   #1
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Keep holding the offense hostage and this is what happens. Let the damn kid play. If we're gonna lose at least go down with an open playbook, not this vanilla crap we're running. 1 and done in the playoffs with the way this is going.
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Totally agree.

The game was there for the taking and Kubiak played not to lose.

Sickening.
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Default Re: On you Kubiak

Really, on Kubiak? We have scrubs and bandages holding this team together and it is all play calling? ...still enjoying the ride.
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Totally agree.

The game was there for the taking and Kubiak played not to lose.

Sickening.
I'm not sure why we are playing not to lose football. We weren't when the AFC South was on the line. Now we win the division and we crawl into the playoffs. Did yates throw a pass more than 10 yards down field? Jacoby was open on several deep plays on bootlegs and Yates fixated on the crossing TE instead.

I really don't understand it, this team could be up with the #1 seed and instead we come out extremely conservative.
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Really, on Kubiak? We have scrubs and bandages holding this team together and it is all play calling? ...still enjoying the ride.
The Texans just lost to the worst team in the league.

Does that mean the Texans are the worst team in the league?

No.

It means they have one of the worst game day coaches in the league.
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Default Re: On you Kubiak

Funny how people expect Yates to throw downfield when Winston and Caldewll can't hold their blocks.

Kubiak may have called a bad game (which I really can't agree) but what do you expect him to do when Yates doesn't get the protection he needs plus the officials throwing the flags on crucial moments. Colts scored 13 points off BS calls.
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Really, on Kubiak? We have scrubs and bandages holding this team together and it is all play calling? ...still enjoying the ride.
Yes really. I agree about our injuries BUT you don't make matters worse by calling a terrible game. At least give the "scrubs" a chance because they WILL have to make plays in the playoffs if we want a chance to win A game.
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Default Re: On you Kubiak

Really, give em a chance. There are multiple 1 and done threads out here. We are what we say we are. Is that good enough, who knows. Everyone on here says jacoby sucks. Walter is our deep ball threat and he runs in routes. We don't have a healthy team. And by scrubs I mean we have players out there now an also considered depth that would normally barely make the practice squad.

And the worst team in the nfl. We've said that about ourselves a few times and here we are. The colts aren't the worst team in the nfl. Statistically, maybe this year, but they are a qb away from last year. Just like we are a solid qb away from it this year.

Don't get me wrong I hope we make a good run, but a coach must play up his strong side and passing is not it now. Hopefully AJ canhelp change this.
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Funny how people expect Yates to throw downfield when Winston and Caldewll can't hold their blocks.
Ill believe this when I see a replay of at least 5 plays that had a wr running a deep route.
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Keep holding the offense hostage and this is what happens. Let the damn kid play. If we're gonna lose at least go down with an open playbook, not this vanilla crap we're running. 1 and done in the playoffs with the way this is going.
Finally, someone giving Kubiak the credit he deserves.

10-5 Kubiak, that's on you.
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Default Re: On you Kubiak

Anyone giving any consideration to the idea it might be somewhere in between Kubiak (whom I admittly don't like) and just the circumstances of injuries the team is facing?
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Anyone giving any consideration to the idea it might be somewhere in between Kubiak (whom I admittly don't like) and just the circumstances of injuries the team is facing?
Exactly. Refs + Kubiak+ no wade + injuries = loss to 1 win team
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Anyone giving any consideration to the idea it might be somewhere in between Kubiak (whom I admittly don't like) and just the circumstances of injuries the team is facing?
I think everyone has to deal with injuries. If they happen during the game, I'll give it some credence. But when you lose with the team you brought... nah, that's on the coach.
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I think everyone has to deal with injuries. If they happen during the game, I'll give it some credence. But when you lose with the team you brought... nah, that's on the coach.
Lol yeah, bc so many teams have been successful with 3rd string QBs throwing behind backup OL to 3rd string WRs
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Lol yeah, bc so many teams have been successful with 3rd string QBs throwing behind backup OL to 3rd string WRs
We won three games with that 3rd string QB

We lost to a 3rd string QB.

I'm not saying this loss is anymore than what it is. It is what it is.

The only thing different I think Kubiak should have done, was to call a time out much sooner in that final drive. He didn't call that timeout until they spotted the ball on the 1.5 yard line... WTF were we going to do there?

Two penalties extended their drive... he waited till after the third.

What was he saving those T.O.s for?
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It seems that some people just don't have the capability of understanding why so many people are criticizing Kubiak after this game and then looking back at the last 3 games. People realize that the team has had all types of injuries and stuff like that. People want to see the HC going for the win any way possible though. They don't want to see a conservative game plan just because Yates is a rookie. Hell this same rookie had a very impressive drive against one of the best defenses in the NFL to win the game in the clutch. People are watching a HC pull back the reigns completely on this offense giving other teams a competitive advantage. Most fans realize that Yates is a young QB that is going to make mistakes here and there, but they want to see the kid allowed to actually play and try to put up points on offense. Kubiak is coaching to where it has to be all on the defense and the running game to win the game which is handcuffing the team at this juncture. I don't doubt one bit that folks would be just fine with Kubiak if he was allowing Yates and the rest of the offense to make plays. He's not!! It's that simple. NOthing more complicated about it. Allow your team the chance to win the game and PLAY TO WIN instead of playing to stay in the game and hoping that your defense can create a few TO's for some easy FG's to win with an offensive output of 13 points.
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Kubiak could commit 1st degree murder and you'd have the same people running in here and making excuses for why he did it.

Fact is He put the handcuffs back on and went super conservative and don't give me the injury excuse...because that's not how he coached when the division was still up for grabs. Matt Schaub is not going to walk through that door, Yates is what we have under center until next year so let him freaking play......and if you don't trust him, then pull him and give someone else a shot. You can't hide your QB in the playoffs so instead of wasting valuable snaps during these last few games, he should've used them to get T.J. ready for the playoffs.

Kubiak coaches like a scared wussy....not surprising for a guy who can't even watch his kicker kick FGs.
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Finally, someone giving Kubiak the credit he deserves.

10-5 Kubiak, that's on you.
0-2 without Wade.
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It seems that some people just don't have the capability of understanding why so many people are criticizing Kubiak after this game and then looking back at the last 3 games. People realize that the team has had all types of injuries and stuff like that. People want to see the HC going for the win any way possible though. They don't want to see a conservative game plan just because Yates is a rookie. Hell this same rookie had a very impressive drive against one of the best defenses in the NFL to win the game in the clutch. People are watching a HC pull back the reigns completely on this offense giving other teams a competitive advantage. Most fans realize that Yates is a young QB that is going to make mistakes here and there, but they want to see the kid allowed to actually play and try to put up points on offense. Kubiak is coaching to where it has to be all on the defense and the running game to win the game which is handcuffing the team at this juncture. I don't doubt one bit that folks would be just fine with Kubiak if he was allowing Yates and the rest of the offense to make plays. He's not!! It's that simple. NOthing more complicated about it. Allow your team the chance to win the game and PLAY TO WIN instead of playing to stay in the game and hoping that your defense can create a few TO's for some easy FG's to win with an offensive output of 13 points.
Play to win the game, no matter what.

That's what we did, but nobody is happy with that. We had them in position to win, forcing the Colts to score a TD with 1:56 left, no timeouts, starting on their 20 against the #2 defense in the league.

We lost the game, but not because Tj didn't air it out. Not because Kubiak handcuffed him. There were opportunities, Tj didn't take them. He played it safe... which is what we needed to win.

I say that because we had the lead with 1:56 left in the game, the Colts had no T.O.s they hadn't scored a TD all night & they were spotted at the 20 yard line going against the #2 defense in the league. A defense that stopped them twice, but because of some penalties, they failed to get off the field.

How can you blame Kubiak for that?

I'd have liked for him to go for it on 4-2 to pick up that first down, kill some more time & then kick a field goal... or score a TD, that would have been nice.

But you can't fault him for getting the field goal & putting the Colts on the 20 against the #2 defense in the league.

That's football, that's game winning decisions right there. You can't blame Kubiak for what happened after that point if you're going to say, "do whatever it takes to get a win."

Because that's what he did. Losing that game had nothing to do with Kubiaks game management.
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We lost the game, but not because Tj didn't air it out. Not because Kubiak handcuffed him. There were opportunities, Tj didn't take them. He played it safe... which is what we needed to win.
Ya'll are making it sound as if we would have scored more than more than 16 had we let Tj throw it more. But there is no proof of that.

Everyone knows we got lucky in Cincinnati, heck Texecutioner, you're one of the main guys saying we can't go far asking Tj to do too much.
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