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Old 12-23-2011   #81
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Wow, I figured that maybe it was just Herv acting like the game was fixed, but apparently it's the entire forum. Sorry, but that is a bunch of crap. As fans you guys that are saying that the game was fixed need to stop acting like babies, and accept the fact that we lost. That's what happens when you don't come out to play. You can lose any game in the NFL.

If you can't score more than one TD against a terrible team like the Colts, and you play "not to lose" like Kubiak did throughout that entire game and keep it close like that, then there will be a good chance that you will lose. Stop blaming the refs for this loss. It was on the coach. When you won't even let the QB attempt to do his job against the worst team in the league, you can expect to lose. I've seen NFL games officiated way worse than that one. And why in the hell would the NFL need to fix a game for the freaking Colts in week 15 or whatever it is now?? People need to stop looking for conspiracy theories in this loss and just accept the fact that the Texans weren't there to win and neither was their coach.
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The refs "playing" down to the competition is as likely a narrative as them blatantly favoring the Colts.
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Yeah just disregard the inept offense
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Why the heck are you here then? Go back to routing for Dallas, we don't need fans like you around here!
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Wow, I figured that maybe it was just Herv acting like the game was fixed, but apparently it's the entire forum. Sorry, but that is a bunch of crap. As fans you guys that are saying that the game was fixed need to stop acting like babies, and accept the fact that we lost. That's what happens when you don't come out to play. You can lose any game in the NFL.

If you can't score more than one TD against a terrible team like the Colts, and you play "not to lose" like Kubiak did throughout that entire game and keep it close like that, then there will be a good chance that you will lose. Stop blaming the refs for this loss. It was on the coach. When you won't even let the QB attempt to do his job against the worst team in the league, you can expect to lose. I've seen NFL games officiated way worse than that one. And why in the hell would the NFL need to fix a game for the freaking Colts in week 15 or whatever it is now?? People need to stop looking for conspiracy theories in this loss and just accept the fact that the Texans weren't there to win and neither was their coach.
The game was not fixed but those refs were quick with the whistle. No conspiracy.
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I realize that most of you won't agree with me but I really do believe I just watched a fixed game. I'm convinced of it and I feel like throwing up right now. I think we just saw the NFL through officiating hand a competitive advantage to the Colts to keep the prime-time game interesting.

The NFL for years has been morphing into something I have a hard time accepting as the same sport I watched as a kid. Tonight I realized that I'm watching something about as legitimate as the WWE.

"Must spread rep."

It was a stacked deck.

Watt should fine Goodell. Worst roughing penalty calls in the history of football. Both calls were bogus.

And refs absolutely can / do influence the outcome of games.

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The game never should have been in position to allow the refs to have an influence on a two minute drive.

The Colts are garbage this year. The fact that the Texans gameplan was to play not to lose is what ultimately allowed some crappy calls to help determine the outcome of the game.

As far as conspiracy angle, money talks. And we are dealing with humans. So while I do not see any viable evidence that the game was fixed, at the same time, I would not rule it out completely. The NFL is a multi-billion dollar entertainment empire. Never underestimate the power of greed.

That being said, the Texans should have beat down the Colts and the final drive would have been meaningless.
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There are bad calls in every football game, but sorry I've seen calls way worse than what I witnessed last night.

To say the game was fixed in a meaningless game between two teams the NFL doesn't give a **** about is retarded. Hell, the media doesn't even pay attention to the Texans and they could give a crap about the Colts when Manning isn't out there. You play not to lose and keep it a super close game all the way to the end of the 4th quarter, and yeah any call from the officials can change things dramatically, but you shouldn't be there in the first place against an Orvlosky led Colts. If you can't put away an Orvlosky led Colts a lot easier than that, then you deserve to lose. Obviously Wade being out was a huge factor as well since the Texans can't even beat the Panthers or the Colts. Kubiak lost that game.

If anything this loss is a good thing in my eyes. It woke these bat shit crazy fans up that thought that Yates was capable of taking the Texans to the SB when he's a rookie tossed into the fire. It woke fans back up to the fact that Kubiak can't coach worth a damn without a guy like Wade Phillips on his side. And hopefully it will wake this team up going into the post season to where they'll play with a lot more intensity and heart going forward. Obviously the Texans bought into their own hype.

But blaming the refs and the NFL and saying the game was fixed is just weak. We lost.
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I'm going to put a lot of this on the inept offense and curious play calling. But you have to put that entire game winning drive on the officials. You just have to.

Doing this from memory but all of these are questionable calls.

1. Roughing the passer in the first half. "Helmet to helmet"
- How in the world are we supposed to avoid this? Orlovsky ducks his head down to waist level, with JJ already in tackle mode.

2. Illegal use of the hands by JJ Watt on the OL.
- How many times is this a no call? 95 percent of the time, I'd say. He just grazed the facemask.

3. Roughing the passer, final drive.
- JJ Watt being pushed down by lineman, and falls on Orlovsky's leg. WHAT.

4. Pass interference by Quin at the 1.
- Ball was at the 6. We are free to do anything to the receiver inside 5 yards. How in the world is this called?
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So in all 3 crucial penalties that would have been no-calls in any other game. That entire drive, save for the great 30 yard catch by Wayne was given to the Colts by the refs. That said, we need to really do something with this offense. Timid QB + no WR that can stretch the field + 2nd string RG starting for Brisel = recipe for disaster. We need AJ back in the worst way. Is it too late to call up T.O. before the playoffs?
I'm with you on the first 3 but you are wrong on #4. You can chuck the WR, but you cannot hold him anywhere and you cannot interfere with him while the ball is being thrown his direction - first 5 yds or not. While I have seen worse not called in a similar game ending situation I can't say it wasn't a penalty - I'm just more on the order of let them play, especially in those game crucial situations at the end unless it clearly impacts the play directly. That could be borderline there, but out of all of them that's the one that I can't really complain about too much.
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If the Texans would have won that game with the same calls by the officials in the Texans favor I highly doubt that people would be in here saying that the game was fixed for the Texans and that we didn't really win it.
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There are bad calls in every football game, but sorry I've seen calls way worse than what I witnessed last night.

To say the game was fixed in a meaningless game between two teams the NFL doesn't give a **** about is retarded. Hell, the media doesn't even pay attention to the Texans and they could give a crap about the Colts when Manning isn't out there. You play not to lose and keep it a super close game all the way to the end of the 4th quarter, and yeah any call from the officials can change things dramatically, but you shouldn't be there in the first place against an Orvlosky led Colts. If you can't put away an Orvlosky led Colts a lot easier than that, then you deserve to lose. Obviously Wade being out was a huge factor as well since the Texans can't even beat the Panthers or the Colts. Kubiak lost that game.

If anything this loss is a good thing in my eyes. It woke these bat shit crazy fans up that thought that Yates was capable of taking the Texans to the SB when he's a rookie tossed into the fire. It woke fans back up to the fact that Kubiak can't coach worth a damn without a guy like Wade Phillips on his side. And hopefully it will wake this team up going into the post season to where they'll play with a lot more intensity and heart going forward. Obviously the Texans bought into their own hype.

But blaming the refs and the NFL and saying the game was fixed is just weak. We lost.
To clarify....I don't believe nor have I said that the game was rigged, my comment was just about the comment I quoted as far as that one penalty for roughing the passer that was pure BS.

It was clearly just a normal sack and to call it roughing the passer was just mind blowing. Having seen that play and then hear that "There was no call by the officials that was that bad."....that is what made me

NOt an attack or anything, and not claiming game was rigged, but you can't say no calls were that bad IMHO after that call.
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It was rigged or the referees are complete morons....or quite likely both.
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Bottom line is..... it was 3rd and 5, it WAS a legit sack. They should have had to kick the ball away, rather then get a first down and eventual score.
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It's going to get to the point where D-Linemen run up to the QB, stop, and try to run around in front of him waving their arms; no attempt to touch him, just the ***** football league.
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This game wasn't fixed. And it's true, we never should been in that position on the final drive.

But I still stand by the thread title. We got raped by the officials. Its either that, or I don't understand what roughing the passer means anymore. Come to think of it, I don't think anyone knows anymore.

But having said that, I just want to say to all those people here that said that when we lost Schaub, we lost the season . . .

. . . you were right.
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There are bad calls in every football game, but sorry I've seen calls way worse than what I witnessed last night.

To say the game was fixed in a meaningless game between two teams the NFL doesn't give a **** about is retarded. Hell, the media doesn't even pay attention to the Texans and they could give a crap about the Colts when Manning isn't out there. You play not to lose and keep it a super close game all the way to the end of the 4th quarter, and yeah any call from the officials can change things dramatically, but you shouldn't be there in the first place against an Orvlosky led Colts. If you can't put away an Orvlosky led Colts a lot easier than that, then you deserve to lose. Obviously Wade being out was a huge factor as well since the Texans can't even beat the Panthers or the Colts. Kubiak lost that game.

If anything this loss is a good thing in my eyes. It woke these bat shit crazy fans up that thought that Yates was capable of taking the Texans to the SB when he's a rookie tossed into the fire. It woke fans back up to the fact that Kubiak can't coach worth a damn without a guy like Wade Phillips on his side. And hopefully it will wake this team up going into the post season to where they'll play with a lot more intensity and heart going forward. Obviously the Texans bought into their own hype.

But blaming the refs and the NFL and saying the game was fixed is just weak. We lost.
I don't think it's retarded at all. It was a prime time game and the refs kept it competitive. Maybe on a night when the Texans were firing on all cylinders it might not have changed the outcome. Last night it did.

Last night the officials changed the competitive balance of the game right in front of our eyes and it resulted in a Colts win. If you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you other than Vince McMahon has a product he thinks you'll love. You should check it out.



I discount the idea that the NFL cares whether or not Andrew Luck goes to the Colts. I find that suggestion questionable at best considering how many first round QB's end up busting. On the other hand I absolutely understand that television ratings drive this sport and that unappealing matchups scheduled long before anyone knew the Colts would suck or that the Texans would be good have to be sold to viewers one way or another. Am I the only one who raised an eyebrow when the announcers brought up the fact that no 10 loss team had ever beaten a 10 win team before the game started? Interesting stat and very pertinent to the ending we saw don't you think? The referee in this game was Jerome Bogar who is known for having a heavy hand where personal fouls are concerned. You have a good defense you need held in check then he's your man. He's the same guy who was returning Vince Young's high-five back in 2009.

This game might not have been fixed but it was clearly "managed" to our detriment. No one can convince me otherwise.
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This game wasn't fixed. And it's true, we never should been in that position on the final drive.

But I still stand by the thread title. We got raped by the officials. Its either that, or I don't understand what roughing the passer means anymore. Come to think of it, I don't think anyone knows anymore.

But having said that, I just want to say to all those people here that said that when we lost Schaub, we lost the season . . .

. . . you were right.
http://www.ehow.com/facts_5139360_nf...ng-passer.html

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I don't think it's retarded at all. It was a prime time game and the refs kept it competitive. Maybe on a night when the Texans were firing on all cylinders it might not have changed the outcome. Last night it did.

Last night the officials changed the competitive balance of the game right in front of our eyes and it resulted in a Colts win. If you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you other than Vince McMahon has a product he thinks you'll love. You should check it out.



I discount the idea that the NFL cares whether or not Andrew Luck goes to the Colts. I find that suggestion questionable at best considering how many first round QB's end up busting. On the other hand I absolutely understand that television ratings drive this sport and that unappealing matchups scheduled long before anyone knew the Colts would suck or that the Texans would be good have to be sold to viewers one way or another. Am I the only one who raised an eyebrow when the announcers brought up the fact that no 10 loss team had ever beaten a 10 win team before the game started? Interesting stat and very pertinent to the ending we saw don't you think? The referee in this game was Jerome Bogar who is known for having a heavy hand where personal fouls are concerned. You have a good defense you need held in check then he's your man. He's the same guy who was returning Vince Young's high-five back in 2009.

This game might not have been fixed but it was clearly "managed" to our detriment. No one can convince me otherwise.
The last drive was pathetic... Also peep this...

Jerome Boger did ref the game last night... He did Indy @ Tenn. week #8 Tenn. -9 beat Indy 27-10... Teams that have won with him the first game have lost the second game with him in the same season as teams that lost with him in the first game have won the second game in the same season..... It may be a coincidence, but it has happened every time since 2008.

A friend of mine said... "Shit was rigged, Vegas made a loooooot of money on that game..."

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A lot of people discount the notion of a fix.
And MANY cite the Colts as "The Worst" team in the league. Sure, there have been a couple blow outs like the N.O. game for them, but they have also kept many games close and only lost by a small margin. They don't completely suck and if a close game can be manipulated then it all becomes very clouded indeed.

The truth of the matter is, we have been getting tons of non calls on holding the past few weeks and tons of ticky tack calls against us.
We have also not played to the caliber we are capable of.
I.M.O., it may be just a little bit of both!
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