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Old 12-20-2011   #21
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BTW, Caldwell looked awfully GOOD!

His lateral movement had improved greatly.
His quickness downfield had also improved.
His cut block was wicked.

He still played a little high once in awhile, but made up for it with pure strength.
(Might have problem with a better DT/NT).

Overall, I like the progress Caldwell made.
We'll see how he handle the job in the next few games.
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I have been concerned about our offense even when Schaub was in. Our lack of a #2 WR is really killing us I think.
Not having a #1WR is killing us right now!!!!
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A healthy AJ will help any QB.

Like its been said here though repeatedly no matter what round he came from any rookie QB is going to have up and downs. I'd really like to win the last 2 games to get a home playoff game and first round bye. I don't want this young team to have to go on the road and win their first playoff game.
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The WR Position is atrocious without Andre Johnson we need to spend our #1 Draft pick and maybe our 4th Round pick on the WR position we have to address this issue going into next season.
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The WR Position is atrocious without Andre Johnson we need to spend our #1 Draft pick and maybe our 4th Round pick on the WR position we have to address this issue going into next season.
No, we take the best player available at the time we pick, whether it's a WR or a dog catcher. Drafting a particular position strictly based on need is a recipe for reaching.
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A healthy AJ will help any QB.

Like its been said here though repeatedly no matter what round he came from any rookie QB is going to have up and downs. I'd really like to win the last 2 games to get a home playoff game and first round bye. I don't want this young team to have to go on the road and win their first playoff game.
We've clinched the division. Regardless what happens from here on out, we will get a home playoff game. If we go on the road, it's because we already won that game.

Division winners all get home play-off games.

If we get the 1 or 2 seed, we will have the possibility of having 2 home games. We'll have the "bye" of Wild-card weekend, then we'll play a home game in the division round. If the #1 seed loses, then our next game would also be a home game. If we are the #1 seed & win, the 2nd game, the AFC Championship game would be here in Houston.

As the #3 seed, if we win we'll advance & play the #2 seed on the road. The winner of the #4 vs #5 seed would advance to play the #1 seed. If the #4/5 seed beats the #1 seed & we beat the #2 seed, we'll host the AFC Championship game.
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The WR Position is atrocious without Andre Johnson we need to spend our #1 Draft pick and maybe our 4th Round pick on the WR position we have to address this issue going into next season.
I wouldn't say atrocious. There were open receivers on most plays, Tj just didn't find them.
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We've clinched the division. Regardless what happens from here on out, we will get a home playoff game. If we go on the road, it's because we already won that game.

Division winners all get home play-off games.

If we get the 1 or 2 seed, we will have the possibility of having 2 home games. We'll have the "bye" of Wild-card weekend, then we'll play a home game in the division round. If the #1 seed loses, then our next game would also be a home game. If we are the #1 seed & win, the 2nd game, the AFC Championship game would be here in Houston.

As the #3 seed, if we win we'll advance & play the #2 seed on the road. The winner of the #4 vs #5 seed would advance to play the #1 seed. If the #4/5 seed beats the #1 seed & we beat the #2 seed, we'll host the AFC Championship game.
I think being a 3rd seed is actually best for the texans players in whole. I don't think this team is ready mentally to play its 1st playoff game against a team like Baltimore or Pittsburgh. I think it would be better to play the 6th seed, jets,titans,bengals,raiders type of squad at home vs waiting a week and playing the winner of pittsburgh/balt vs the afc west winner. Pittsburgh is beating whomever wins the afc west. Baltimore is beating whomever wins the west also.
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I think being a 3rd seed is actually best for the texans players in whole. I don't think this team is ready mentally to play its 1st playoff game against a team like Baltimore or Pittsburgh. I think it would be better to play the 6th seed, jets,titans,bengals,raiders type of squad at home vs waiting a week and playing the winner of pittsburgh/balt vs the afc west winner. Pittsburgh is beating whomever wins the afc west. Baltimore is beating whomever wins the west also.
This line of thinking I just don't understand. How can you possibly think that playing a 1st round game and playing the 2nd round game on the road (IF YOU WIN) is better than skipping that game and going straight to the 2nd round at home?
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This line of thinking I just don't understand. How can you possibly think that playing a 1st round game and playing the 2nd round game on the road (IF YOU WIN) is better than skipping that game and going straight to the 2nd round at home?
I like being one home game away from the AFC Championship game.

Baltimore sucks on the road & we've already beaten Pittsburgh once @ Reliant.

I think we have a real Homefield advantage & think we should take advantage of it.
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With Schaub at QB and AJ at a WR position the Texans offense is formidable
but without them it is ordinary at best, perhaps even inferior comparitively speaking.
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With Schaub at QB and AJ at a WR position the Texans offense is formidable
but without them it is ordinary at best, perhaps even inferior comparitively speaking.
I dont think anyone can refute that. If the Texans are successful from here on out it will be due to the strength of the defense and running game.
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I think it's all about the OL right now. If they can be the elite unit they are supposed to be we'll think the world of the skill guys. If they can't move the D or hold up the rushes, well, it'll be a lot like Carolina from here on out.
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It is a concern. Yates has played better than we should have expected from a 3rd string, 5th round pick. If he continues to grow he could be the QB of the future after Schaub is gone. His consistency is not there yet and that will cost us. The running game needs to be strong to open up some passing lanes for him.

I thought we could have run the ball more against Carolina. Kubiak yanked Foster for a series and a half after the fumble. I get that you have to send a message, but you cost your team when you penalize your best offensive player. I like Tate, but Foster is a level above him and on at least one play in that next series (a short pass to Tate in the flat) I think Foster can get past a guy to move the sticks instead of coming up a few yards short. In the 2nd half we ran the ball better until the red zone and then Kubiak tried to outsmart everyone by throwing. 2nd and goal at the 5 after running it down their throats and we throw twice producing a FG. The last drive of the game (for us at least) on 1st and goal we run for 3 yards then we call a pass play where Yates does a Carr impression and runs out of bounds 2 yards behind the line of scrimmage. The next play is the interception. You have the best running back in the game. Give him the ball.

Going into the playoffs this team can beat anyone even with Yates. He'll have to make a few throws, but we've seen that he can do it. You're going to have to let Foster and Tate carry the load, though. It will help our D. 3 and outs, especially when little time comes off the clock because we have incompletions kills a D.
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I wouldn't say atrocious. There were open receivers on most plays, Tj just didn't find them.
On most plays?

I don't see that, TK!

I'm good with TJ's decision-making for the most part.
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Thanks for this post. MSR, but very well thought out and explained. I have been really concerned with the last two wins, and when I expressed that some of the newer members have been very offensive about their opposing point of view. Its nice to see some of the veteran members keep their cool about their opinions, it helps to keep people on the opposite side in perspective of everything not being so bad, since I don't have to worry about defending my 'fanhood' because I have a different opinion. Thanks.
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On most plays?

I don't see that, TK!

I'm good with TJ's decision-making for the most part.
Really? Have you asked yourself this question:

Why doesn't TJ roll-out nearly as often as Schaub does on play action passes??
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I think the last few weeks have proven Schaub's worth to this team. I had my doubts about how long we would last in the playoffs before Schaub went down, now it's getting worse. With Schaub, I honestly don't believe we'd be one and done in the playoffs. Now, depending on who we draw, that could very well happen.

I still continue to have hope that TJ and the Texans will surprise us in the playoffs. I hope so.
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I'm concerned with how offensive Thorn can be..
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Really? Have you asked yourself this question:

Why doesn't TJ roll-out nearly as often as Schaub does on play action passes??
Yes, he did, Bill!

How many times do you think Schaub roll out on the average?

It's a call to be made by the coaches, any way.
The QB can't decide to roll out by himself.
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