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Old 12-19-2011   #81
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He wouldn't even show up for their ring ceremony after they won, because he was so mad about Boss having success and then taking his job. The guy has been a prick for years.
True dat.
His main claim to fame is his mouth.
Guess he hadn't been getting enough attention down in Carolina.
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I just checked his Twitter page. Looks like he's gone Toby Keith now.
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I just checked his Twitter page. Looks like he's gone Toby Keith now.
He's become a giant poser to sell records to rednecks?
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Anyone hear Meltser's Steve Smith interview? Apparently their team is filled with d&*%s?
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Shockey was probably drinking when our organization game the home away to the mother of the marine! Sad.....
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I think all of the Houston Texans should immediately get giant eagle tattoos on their arms because that would be the only way to show you love your country.

Shockey is a moron.
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I heard he was taunting the TV crew for not mentioning their undying love for America during the pre-game shows.
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Hated him as a Giant, Hated him as a Saint. I hope the next time they play the Steelers James Harrison gives him a helmet to the face. The man's a N*******.
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Shockey was probably drinking when our organization game the home away to the mother of the marine! Sad.....
The Texans didn't give the home to them, it was Operation Finally Home.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...rn=nfl-wp14211

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Marine Scott Wood died four weeks ago after suffering injuries during combat in Iraq. Before his burial, his wife dressed him in two uniforms. On the outside, Scott wore his military dress blues. Underneath, he wore the blue No. 80 jersey of Houston Texans wide receiver Andre Johnson.

Sara Wood had been married to Scott for eight years. They have a five-year-old son together named Landon. Now he and Sara live in a single room in her parent's house.

"He knows daddy's in heaven," Sara said of Landon, "though I don't know if he fully comprehends what that means. He knows daddy's not coming back."

When Sara got an offer to go watch the Houston Texans play the Carolina Panthers on Sunday, she jumped at the opportunity. She knew her husband would have loved to go the Reliant Stadium to watch his beloved team play. Plus, she and Landon had never been to a game before.

As described in a column by Tully Corcoran on FSHouston.com, the team brought Sara to the game under the pretense that she and her son would be part of a halftime ceremony in which Landon would receive a bike and Scott's memory would be celebrated by the 71,500 in attendance. Both those things happened, but a much bigger surprise awaited.

The team told Sara she and London would be receiving a custom-built, mortgage-free house in a Houston suburb. It's courtesy Operation Finally Home, an organization the builds houses for wounded and disabled veterans or their widowed families. In its seven years of existence, the charity has built 32 homes in 32 states, all mortgage free.


This home will allow the Wood family to stay close to family but have a place of their own. The hope is that she and Landon will move in next May. Scott won't be there, but that doesn't mean Landon won't talk to him.

"We told him he could talk to daddy in his prayers," she said, "and even in the middle of the day, you'll see him walk around the corner and you'll hear him say the 'now I lay me down to sleep prayer,' which Scott taught him. And then he starts talking to daddy."

Yeah, the Texans hate America. Shockey is a complete ****ing tool!
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It is possible that some NFL players were not born and raised in America. Not sure if there are any on the Texans, but that may have something to do with it. Okoye was born in Nigeria, and I wouldn't expect him to have his hand over his heart for the anthem.
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It is possible that some NFL players were not born and raised in America. Not sure if there are any on the Texans, but that may have something to do with it. Okoye was born in Nigeria, and I wouldn't expect him to have his hand over his heart for the anthem.
That's a good point and something to consider, but watch an NHL game where Americans account for roughly 25% of all players in the league. Canada accounts for about half, call it a little more than half, and the Europeans account for roughly 20% of the playing population. Not like I've looked for it, but I've never seen a story out of ther NHL saying Canadians (players themselves) or Europeans acting in any way disrespectful during the Anthem.

Dunno, maybe they were taught differently than Americans.
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That's a good point and something to consider, but watch an NHL game where Americans account for roughly 25% of all players in the league. Canada accounts for about half, call it a little more than half, and the Europeans account for roughly 20% of the playing population. Not like I've looked for it, but I've never seen a story out of ther NHL saying Canadians (players themselves) or Europeans acting in any way disrespectful during the Anthem.

Dunno, maybe they were taught differently than Americans.
Not putting your hand over your heart isn't disrespectful, IMO. Shockey is just saying this to draw attention. If Texans players were talking or walking up and down the field during the anthem, then that would be disrespectful. But not putting your hand over your heart? That's ridiculous.

When the anthem plays, my hand isn't over my heart. I hold my arms down and clasped together. Is that a gesture that people would take offense to?

Just out of curiousity, I looked up Youtube videos of national anthems during football games.

This one's at a 49ers game. Players don't have their hands over their heart. Guess Shockey thinks they don't like America either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqrG_ZCtrAQ

Bears/Falcons game. Hard to tell if they're holding the flag or just behind the service members who are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7BQV93tFLs

Dolphins/Giants game. Pretty sure this is when Shockey was still with NY. Not every player is holding their hand over their heart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O46wGHdacfM

From a PANTHERS game. Not every Panther is holding their hand over their heart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOk3_iTPBug
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Shockey's emotional maturity is Haynesworth-like.

If he wants to use token gestures like tattoos and anthems to measure another man's values, he can show up on the sidelines to support his teammates during the most meaningful game of their lives.

Some ink under your skin doesn't make up for your own lack of integrity or character, and your brother going to West Point doesn't vicariously make you Captain America. What have you done for your country, Jeremy, other than talk? Being a poor example of character isn't exactly reinforcing American exceptionalism. Go grab your crotch in front of a crowd of parents and kids some more-- the same people who happen to actually live and breath the American values that you only associate with through meaningless talk.
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Personally I don't get the whole patriotic ceremonies at sporting events. What does patriotism, etc have to do with sports and how is it different than any other form of entertainment? For example it's not done before concerts, movies, comedy shows, theater plays, etc.
Good question.

I salute the flag, but I was trained to do so from a young age. It's habit now.

I think "showing respect for your country" should be much deeper for citizens than a simple hand gesture. I think showing respect would include voting, abiding by the law, holding elected official accountable, making global corporations responsible, and quite a few other pro-active endeavors that would require a whole lot more effort than a mere hand over the heart.

I guess this is where the obligatory George Carlin quote goes:

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A couple of other notable Americans that seem to be "disrespecting" the flag, as well:











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you put your hand across your heart for pledge of allegiance......

no such thing for national anthem....just stand there......remove your hat with your hands by your side......

Jeez....what a kookoo........he has a few screws loose.......
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Not putting your hand over your heart isn't disrespectful, IMO. Shockey is just saying this to draw attention. If Texans players were talking or walking up and down the field during the anthem, then that would be disrespectful. But not putting your hand over your heart? That's ridiculous.

When the anthem plays, my hand isn't over my heart. I hold my arms down and clasped together. Is that a gesture that people would take offense to?
I don't care if the hand is over the heart and I don't know why this is directed at me. I simply like to see respect for the flag. If you are standing, hat off, and not carrying on a conversation during the rendition, I couldn't be happier, you know? I'm no Anthem nazi like Shockey seems to be.

As far as the playing of the Anthem before game, that's another topic altogether, but as long as it is being played I see no reason a person can't stand up and shut up for a minute and a half.
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