Some of you amaze me.

[EVOLVIST]

Originally Posted by TheCD

I think the concerning thing though is that we really should have lost the last two weeks. I'm not saying that other teams don't get lucky or pull wins out like we have, but we could just as easily be 8-6 with how we have played.

Should have...? We SHOULD have lost?

Shouldn't that be, "We very well could have lost?"

Man, just hearing something like that from "a fan," (I'm assuming you call yourself a fan), just baffles me. The Texans won the friggin' games, dude! Which is exactly what was supposed to happen, because it did happen.

No mulligans on wins. Ever! Christ!

[Dishman]

Originally Posted by Texecutioner

Leave it up to a guy with 6 posts to give a strong breakdown on how badly this forum sucks and how stupid everyone is.

Number of posts are not a recognition of your education, fandom, etc. So who really cares if the guys has 6 posts? For all we know Wade Phillips could come on here and post then immediately be torn down as some kind on n00b after a single post.

That said, the forum doesn't suck, but there are plenty of suspect threads. I guess the guy needs to post a video breakdown of his points to be considered relevant?

[Texecutioner]

Originally Posted by Dishman

Number of posts are not a recognition of your education, fandom, etc. So who really cares if the guys has 6 posts? For all we know Wade Phillips could come on here and post then immediately be torn down as some kind on n00b after a single post.

That said, the forum doesn't suck, but there are plenty of suspect threads. I guess the guy needs to post a video breakdown of his points to be considered relevant?

You want to show me a perfect forum where everyone always agrees? One like that probably wouldn't exist that long. But a guy who hasn't contributed hardly anything to this site or said anything about himself really isn't exactly in a position to express how stupid so many people are in here. No need to come in here for the first time and rant about the stupidity of this board other than some guy called CN'D.

People talk about what happened in games.

[TexansFanatic]

Originally Posted by TexansLucky13

To his credit, this board does tend to be pretty negative a lot of the time. I was a regular on here for years before I joined the Army, and it wasn't until that time that I realized the pessimism.

There's no arguing the board can get negative. But spewing bile at negativity is like throwing gas on a fire.

[imatexan]

Originally Posted by Texecutioner

You want to show me a perfect forum where everyone always agrees? One like that probably wouldn't exist that long. But a guy who hasn't contributed hardly anything to this site or said anything about himself really isn't exactly in a position to express how stupid so many people are in here. No need to come in here for the first time and rant about the stupidity of this board other than some guy called CN'D.

People talk about what happened in games.

Exactly!

[TheCD]

Originally Posted by EVOLVIST

Should have...? We SHOULD have lost?

Shouldn't that be, "We very well could have lost?"

Man, just hearing something like that from "a fan," (I'm assuming you call yourself a fan), just baffles me. The Texans won the friggin' games, dude! Which is exactly what was supposed to happen, because it did happen.

No mulligans on wins. Ever! Christ!

OK...this is absolutely ridiculous. Pardon me, but simply because I look at the game and see that the Bengals had us down and inexplicably stopped running the football down our throats (which was working by the way) and ended up choking doesn't mean my fanhood should be in question. In fact, what it means is that I am saying the Bengals should have won it and didn't. Same thing goes for the Falcons: Had Matt Ryan connected on either of the TWO wide open easy deep TD passes we are looking at trying to stay just ahead of the Titans.

My only point was that the team has played poorly enough to warrant being 8-6. As I said, I am glad we pulled it out, but against a team like Baltimore or even N.O./G.B. that is a loss every day.


I apologize for being a realistic and not a homer in trying to look at how this team could perform going on from here. I you want to pretend the team is perfect and without fault in all of our games go ahead, but that neither makes me wrong nor gives you any right to question my or anyone elses fanhood.

By the way, it's not only low of you to do that just because you disagree with someone. Look to your join date and look to mine. I'm sure we have both loved this team from the beginning, but I have obviously been here since we were terrible. You look like you jumped on the bandwagon this season when we FINALLY started to play well. By mo means am I calling your love for this team into doubt, but it is pretty disgusting of you to call mine into doubt because I am trying to point out my concerns for this team moving forward.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by The Cush

I think getting our asses handed to us today can be a good thing for us as it brings us down to Earth. We came out flat and sloppy, a by product of perhaps clinching the South and Wade being out. It's a wake up call to this team that we aren't invincible and have to do more than just show up and go through the motions.

I feel our chances of winning a Super Bowl has increased.

A 13 game win streak?? I wasn't feeling it.

But a 6 game win streak... yeah, I'm feeling some of that.

[Ryan]

I'm not sweating this loss really. Yes, any loss sucks, especially after coming off an emotional high like last week, but honestly i'm glad we got this out of our system. If this happened in the playoffs we'd be incredibly sunk, but all of these mistakes we made today can be corrected, we're getting Andre back, TJ will continue improving, and of course Wade will be back.


We'll be fine, guys. Time for a bounce back game against the Colts on Thursday

[EVOLVIST]

Originally Posted by TheCD

OK...this is absolutely ridiculous. Pardon me, but simply because I look at the game and see that the Bengals had us down and inexplicably stopped running the football down our throats (which was working by the way) and ended up choking doesn't mean my fanhood should be in question. In fact, what it means is that I am saying the Bengals should have won it and didn't. Same thing goes for the Falcons: Had Matt Ryan connected on either of the TWO wide open easy deep TD passes we are looking at trying to stay just ahead of the Titans.

Dude, you keep saying that the Texans should have lost. Past tense. I don't care, the team doesn't care, and the fans shouldn't care of anything in the past, when it comes to a win, when you're saying the past should have been something other than what it is!

A person can look at so many different plays over the course of several years of the Texans that could have changed the course of their years, but they didn't happen, so obviously they shouldn't have happened. They shouldn't have won, because they didn't!

Originally Posted by TheCD

My only point was that the team has played poorly enough to warrant being 8-6. As I said, I am glad we pulled it out, but against a team like Baltimore or even N.O./G.B. that is a loss every day.

You don't know any of this for a fact.

Originally Posted by TheCD

I apologize for being a realistic and not a homer in trying to look at how this team could perform going on from here. I you want to pretend the team is perfect and without fault in all of our games go ahead, but that neither makes me wrong nor gives you any right to question my or anyone elses fanhood.

I understand that if we keep playing like today then the odds are slim that the Texans make any ripples in the playoffs. I, too, am not going to subscribe to blind homerism; nonetheless, the root of "realistic" is reality; and I don't think it's mere semantics that "should," as opposed to a more appropriate "could have lost," was what's in order.

Originally Posted by TheCD

By the way, it's not only low of you to do that just because you disagree with someone. Look to your join date and look to mine. I'm sure we have both loved this team from the beginning, but I have obviously been here since we were terrible. You look like you jumped on the bandwagon this season when we FINALLY started to play well. By mo means am I calling your love for this team into doubt, but it is pretty disgusting of you to call mine into doubt because I am trying to point out my concerns for this team moving forward.

I've been an Oilers/Texans fan longer than you've been alive - since 1983 - when I was old enough to be able appreciate the game. I was 10 years old. No, my post count doesn't reflect that.

I'm sorry, I simply cannot abide by revisionism. Yes, the Texans did not look like a playoff team today. Thursday will tell whether they bounce back or not. That only means putting a total spanking against the Colts.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Hervoyel

Rookie mistakes. He's not ready. This should be no surprise to us but got caught up in the early success and hoped we'd lucked into one of those rare guys who can jump right in and start driving an NFL offense. We all forget that even Manning made mistakes his rookie year. It's not a case of not believing in him or turning on him. Yates just doesn't have the experience to be successful at this level if the rest of the team isn't doing their part. Today all kinds of crap went wrong.

He might be the guy to take us to the next level for all we know but he ain't ready to do it yet.

I don't know about that.

I didn't think we were going to win out, & don't base my opinion of this team, or Tj on this one game.

We're 3-1 in games where Tj took the majority of the snaps. We knew our defense was going to struggle with the Panthers offense..... & they did.

I remember last year, with Schaub & Aj we were whining & crying about having to score 30 points a game & it's not fair to ask an offense to do so.

That was when our offense was the strength of this team.

I think we're going to be ok. We'll finish 12-4 & if that means the 3 seed, that means the 3 seed. Boo freak'n hoo.

[brakos82]

*sigh* do I have to do this?

FIRE KUBIAK.

FIRE TJ YATES.

SHISHKABOB ARIAN FOSTER HE SUX AND HIS WIDE RECEIVERS TOO.

BOB MCNAIR IS A SORRY SISSY PANSY BOY FOR LETTING THE TEXANS LOSE AGAIN.



Now back to your regularly scheduled sane talk. and Kiss my Ass! LOL

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by BullNation4Life

Let's not forget TJ was playing from behind the whole game. You have a rookie QB have to throw that many times to catch up, mistakes are bound to happen.

Texans will have a short week to forget this loss and move on to Indy....

That's stupid coaching.

If you're down 2 scores in the top half of the first qtr, you don't get into a shootout.

You change the pace of the game, you slow it down, you run the ball. You throw screens, you toss it to your backs in the backfield, you pitch it out wide, you use misdirection.

Slow the game down, keep the ball out of their hands... take your time, put up 17 points, keep your defense fresh & win the game.

[EllisUnit]

Originally Posted by Wolf

I know every one was on a high about TJ..
hell I am too, however.. we all can agree the "next man up is taking it's toll" the kid is still learning.

the Texan offense hasn't been the same (understandable) we aren't the high powered offense that scares defenses.

no we arent, and it dont help we have no deep threat WRs without AJ, and its a shame cause J.J is fast just cant be physical enough with CBs to break away.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I feel our chances of winning a Super Bowl has increased.

A 13 game win streak?? I wasn't feeling it.

But a 6 game win streak... yeah, I'm feeling some of that.

Originally Posted by Ryan

I'm not sweating this loss really. Yes, any loss sucks, especially after coming off an emotional high like last week, but honestly i'm glad we got this out of our system. If this happened in the playoffs we'd be incredibly sunk, but all of these mistakes we made today can be corrected, we're getting Andre back, TJ will continue improving, and of course Wade will be back.


We'll be fine, guys. Time for a bounce back game against the Colts on Thursday

We needed a wake up call.

Now let's get back on track.
Barkeep! Another round of please... and make it a double!

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Lurvinator11

I'm sorry but i am going to have to agree with some of the guys on here. Yates will not be the story book QB to lead us to a super bowl. He made way too many mistakes in this game. Interceptions, passes too low or too high. Carolina played a great game, but they were vulnerable and the Texans could not captilize. Even last week, Yates didn't play too well untill the last quarter which of course we all forgot about cause he won the game for us! I hate to say it, but Yates is not the man. Yet. Hopefully we can get a couple of victories in the playoffs. But I just have a bad feeling now. ( I hope it's just gas and not a legit feeling)

The Jets were 9-7 the first year they got to the AFC Championship game.

Sanchez made quite a few mistakes that year & in the play-offs.


It's not over.

[Lucky]

Biatching about other forum members doesn't belong in the Texans forum. Maybe it doesn't belong anywhere. For now, it can reside here.

[ObsiWan]

edit: wrong thread

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by TEXANS4MARIO

TJ got exposed today at HOME. I don't care about AJ being out, AF fumbling and WP recovering right now. I don't have much optimism with him behind center. I applaud you. I'm usually on your boat plugging away. However, I think I will face reality now. That reality is that TJ is not the man for the Texans to make a deep playoff run. I hope I'm wrong.

I dont think thats the case at all.


Foster put them behind the 8 ball with a fumble leading to a Carolina TD.

The running game did diddly squat in the first half. Carolina dominated the LOS in the first half ...

Recievers dropped a few ...

Yates had one bad read leading to an INT and another Carolina score. Only his second INT in 4 games.

That wasnt Yates being exposed , that was a total team effort that lead to a loss.

[TheCD]

Originally Posted by EVOLVIST

Dude, you keep saying that the Texans should have lost. Past tense. I don't care, the team doesn't care, and the fans shouldn't care of anything in the past, when it comes to a win, when you're saying the past should have been something other than what it is!

A person can look at so many different plays over the course of several years of the Texans that could have changed the course of their years, but they didn't happen, so obviously they shouldn't have happened. They shouldn't have won, because they didn't!

So you are saying that how bad a team has played doesn't have any bearing on the games it will play in the future? Sure, makes sense. Not like playing poorly will cause us to lose to playoff teams or anything.

Originally Posted by EVOLVIST

You don't know any of this for a fact.

You're right. It's not like we lost to Baltimore or New Orleans by playing poorly or anything. In fact, we have played more poorly recently than we did in those losses.

Originally Posted by EVOLVIST

I understand that if we keep playing like today then the odds are slim that the Texans make any ripples in the playoffs. I, too, am not going to subscribe to blind homerism; nonetheless, the root of "realistic" is reality; and I don't think it's mere semantics that "should," as opposed to a more appropriate "could have lost," was what's in order.

Perhaps your definition of realism is different from mine. In trying to be realistic, I am attempting to compare how we have been playing lately to how we will play in the future. This is the time of year playoff teams get hot or cool off. Right now I am worried we are cooling off. Based on our play that is a very realistic concern.

Originally Posted by EVOLVIST

I've been an Oilers/Texans fan longer than you've been alive - since 1983 - when I was old enough to be able appreciate the game. I was 10 years old. No, my post count doesn't reflect that.

I'm sorry, I simply cannot abide by revisionism. Yes, the Texans did not look like a playoff team today. Thursday will tell whether they bounce back or not. That only means putting a total spanking against the Colts.

Again, I have never called your fanhood into doubt. But to think yours is any better or more important than mine is absurd. The texans have been around for almost 10 years, we have both been a fan for that long. You have not been a fan of the Texans longer than I have nor vise versa. The Oilers are moot in this discussion, this is a Texans message board, not Oilers so you can't put forth fanhood for them here.

My point still stands. It is low of you to call my fanhood into question because I am worried the Texans will have a letdown as they often do. If you have a different perspective then that's great. But no part of what I said was wrong nor was it 'revisinist history'.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by Lucky

Biatching about other forum members doesn't belong in the Texans forum. Maybe it doesn't belong anywhere. For now, it can reside here.

What just happend?
I saw sarcasm. What did you see?

Originally Posted by brakos82

*sigh* do I have to do this?

FIRE KUBIAK.

FIRE TJ YATES.

SHISHKABOB ARIAN FOSTER HE SUX AND HIS WIDE RECEIVERS TOO.

BOB MCNAIR IS A SORRY SISSY PANSY BOY FOR LETTING THE TEXANS LOSE AGAIN.



Now back to your regularly scheduled sane talk. and Kiss my Ass! LOL

you forgot....

- McNair is a CHEAPSKATE!!

- Wade is a slacker for not toughing it out and waiting until the offseason to have surgery.
- Trade AJ! If he could stand up then could have played today!

...sorry, that's all the ridiculousness I can come up with