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Old 12-18-2011   #821
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I'm just hoping for a 1st week bye.
The easiest way for it to happen is winning out and New England losing one game. Houston would then take the tiebreaker based on Conference record.
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It's not hate. At least not for me. It's disgust that people who claim to know that football is the ultimate team game but who continue to put all the "glory" on one guy. Like the defense had nothing to do with keeping the team within striking distance. Like the RBs had nothing to do with making the defense respect the running threat. Like the receivers didn't have to work hard and get open enough for #15 to find them. Like the O-line didn't work hard to give the RBs lanes or #15 time to throw.

No credit to anyone else on the Broncos for their hard work... It's aaall #15.

To Tebow's credit, he always acknowledges his teammates' hard work. It's the media that is getting on my nerves.
Absolutely, positively, 100% wrong.

Every time the media, fans, or whoever talk about the Broncos, they ALWAYS mention that the D and Prater aren't getting respect too. People don't realize that by saying that, they're giving the D and Prater, and whoever else credit.

People know it's not just Tebow. QB gets all praise and all blame. The reason he gets all the attention is that the turnaround happened when he came in as starter. Even if he's not helping on the field, that culture changed. He has the team and fans believing in him, in the defense (specifically Miller and Dumervil), in the coaches, and in the gameplan. And as much as the statheads love to harp on the notion that those intangible things don't matter, they most certainly do.
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I understand the loss sucks from an overall record standpoint, but as far as tiebreakers go, if I'm not mistaken this loss doesn't hurt us too bad in the first tie scenario as Carolina wouldn't count for/against our conference record. Can someone confirm this?
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Yes. If we wanted to lose one of the last three this was the one to lose.

That said, no guarantee we win both of the upcoming games considering our situation. I would feel infinitely more comfortable if we had Andre.
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