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Mario Williams stinks!!
Wow! I know that I have a reputation in this arena. However, I have argued that I wish Mario was healthy because he does make the team better and deeper. I have only been arguing that he isn't worth the money. Well, I have changed my mind. His absence is one of the reasons this defense has gotten so good. By the way, the Texans are now 7-0 without Mario and the defense is much better. Mario simply doesn't hustle. He's not physical and only gives good effort when he is put in a situation where he has an advantage and opportunity to make a play. I've never seen a player jog and trot on the field as much as he does. After wathching a physical and aggressive defense the past two months, his laziness really pops on the screen. Those of you who doubt this, go back on watch these games. It is quite infuriating. I am official glad he is on the I.R. Otherwise, our defense would've never turned into what it has. There is no way Rick Smith re-signs this guy! Not gonna happen! I'll have video by Monday, I hope.
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Dude, you realize the that Mario was on pace for 16 sacks. This already great defense would be even better with Mario.
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Mario Williams is interesting. Some games I'm yelling at him and screaming to give more effort, but then I understand that he usually get game-planned every week and taking on double teams all game would take a toll on me, especially from an outside rushers who's running a lot more during the play. I mean I agree with the poster, but I disagree about him stinking, and that we would be better off without him because the guy create sacks, not just for him, but for everyone else. Ask Antonio Smith
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How are you not banned for such trollish posts? Yea, Mario was really bad that Steelers game with a couple of key sacks and tackles for loss. He did play better though in that Baltimore game, you know the game that came AFTER the one that ended his season.
It's obvious you didn't "re-watch" any of those games you just have some weird obsession of hating on Mario. It's funny though that you troll and then try to get us to check out your blog... |
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You are much more of analyst with better understanding of football than I and I am just a general fan of the Texans. As a general fan, I would like to point out the followings. 1. He did have 5 sacks in 5 games 2. Our D's overall performance is improving each week and Mario only played first 5 games. 3. I didn't time how fast he gets to QB but seems to me he gets there pretty fast when he gets a sack. 4. Seems Mario forces quick decision on opponents' QB 5. Expectation. I think, we vary expectation on Mario. I am OK with Mario getting 12-15 sacks wise and be disruptive like forcing opponents' QB to make bad decision. To me, I need to see Mario play a full season under Wade's 3-4 before jump into any conclusion. I don't know what is going to happen to Mario after this season but, I would like to see him play a full season under Wade's 3-4. But, this is just me. Go Texans!!! |
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Whats the purpose of this thread? You still trying to convince other people that Mario doesn't live up to your lofty expectations, we know. Everyone recognizes that when this defense was bad Mario was one of the steady contributors year in and year out (not everyone because you are on the other end arguing against him vehemently). Now that the defense is playing well as a unit and Mario is hurt you wanna say the team wouldn't be better with Marios talent out there. I don't get why you got such a hard on to hate on Mario. Please don't try to deny it, because you are the only one who went back and watched whatever you watched and brought up the hate when there wasn't anything remotely relating to Mario going on. You don't like him, we get it. Why don't you just leave it alone until the time comes when people see the relevance and want to discuss it.
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Please don't feed the trolls.
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This beat a dead horse Mario Williams train has become as old and tired as the Kareem Jackson version.
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![]() please dont let this thread turn into a multi pager. we're better than that. lets just let it die quickly like it deserves. |
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Dale's analysis is always rather poor, but this this takes it to new levels. Nevertheless, I'm anxiously awaiting Dale's video of Mario playing lazily in the Baltimore game.
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Let's just comment on the thread and leave the name-calling aside. Or not comment at all, if you feel that's best.
I don't have to re-watch the games, I saw them as they transpired. NO - Mario didn't play well. The defense didn't play well. The black mark on a fantastic season by the defense. Pittsburgh - Ask Big Ben how much Mario sucked. Williams dominated and led an outstanding defensive effort in one of the greatest wins in franchise history. It answered all of the Texans critics (myself included) as to whether this team is "soft". Baltimore - Flacco threw for 300 yards. We could have used Mario that Sunday.
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What was so blatantly clear re-watching isn't that Mario doesn't have talent or that he doesn't occasionally make plays. Instead, it is the fact that he is the only player on the field that doesn't rally to the ball, that doesn't have the aggressive and determined attitude the entire defense now has. He jogs past the play, stands around and handfights, etc... most of the time. Someone show me a series of 5 plays when Barwin, Reed, Cushing, Watt, A.Smith, Jamison aren't chasing the backside of the play down hard. They do. Mario doesn't.
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Mario is both an effective pass rusher and run stopper. He is a very good player. I can't think of any reason why we wouldn't want him back other than perhaps saving cap money. To NOT want Mario on your team is silly.
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Why is everyone so intensely in denial? I would understand it if Mario's performance was essential to the success of our team. Nobody wants to be without hope. Heck, I was obviously in denial regarding David Carr in order to have hope for him until midway through 2006. This is different though. The Texans are 7-0 without Mario and the defense clearly doesn't need him. As a fan, if you watch his lack of consistent effort, it should outrage you. Hopefully, this week, we will get a massive collage of video showing his lack of effort. I dare anyone to put something similar together for any other Texan defender. Why we are a dominant defense now is due to the attitude, effort, and intensity they all play with, IMO. I don't think it is just a coincidence that it really got going after Mario left the field during the Baltimore game. Without Mario on the field, Antonio Smith, Brian Cushing, and Connor Barwin have become team leaders and they have led with a very diffferent attitude that permeates the entire defense.
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I don't know. I would have liked to see what Mario would be like once he fully learned the position.
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I'm not knocking what the Texans have done without Mario. Or Andre. Or Schaub. It's been magical. But if you don't think this team would be better with these players, you are mistaken.
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