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Old 12-14-2011   #121
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Even if teams wated to talk to wade.....we have him for three years right? We can shut the door on them yeah? Don't get me wrong I believe in wades staff and think they can do just as great as a job.....but I mean c'mon....we got him for 3 now lets keep him for three! And then excercise the option so he can call some nice blitzes against his former team in dallas :]
If someone comes and offers him a coordinator's position, yeah, we can shut them out. But if someone offers him a step up to head coach, we can't block that.
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I'm just having a hard time accepting the timing of this whole, "Wade would like to be a head coach thing." I mean damn, couldn't he at least have waited till we won the Superbowl ( ) to come out and say this? I would have thought he would have more sense than that.
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Maybe Bob is taking preventitive measures and having Wade fitted with a restraining bolt before he gets any job offers?

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So when he got sick a few weeks ago is when they discovered both ailments, I am assuming. And apparently the docs felt both issues could wait a couple weeks.
Not necessarily. He could have been dealing with these problems for a long time, but the symptoms or extent of one condition may have gotten to a point where it was either unbearable or dangerous to his long-term health.
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There are too many possibilities to accurately speculate, especially on the kidney side. Very likely, though, the gall bladder and kidney surgeries are unrelated. In most cases, risk factors of developing gallstones are not the same as those leading to the development of kidney stones. A bad gallbladder would readily go along with his rotund-producing "healthful" diet.

He admittedly ruled out cancer in his statement. It could be laparoscopic surgery for a large kidney stone or to relieve hypertension. Either could ultimate lead to laparoscopic removal of his kidney. But one thing I took notice of was one of his early curious statements, that it did not require chemotherapy. This could mean that he is thought to have something like a benign kidney tumor called an oncocytoma. This tumor cannot emphatically be distinguished from a clear cell kidney cancer preoperatively (not even by biopsy) until the kidney is removed. Furthermore, this tumor is believed to have the ability to metastasize (spread) just like a cancer in rare cases........for which one treatment is chemotherapy. Challenging to speculate. But like I said, there so many possibilities, it will remain speculation unless Wade chooses otherwise. At this point in time, I will try to accept Wade's statements that indicate that cancer is not even a consideration. Barring any serious underlying diseases, most all other things (other than cancer) leading to kidney surgery will most likely allow him an uneventful recovery and an opportunity to return to a normal long-term career.................hopefully here in Houston.
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If someone comes and offers him a coordinator's position, yeah, we can shut them out. But if someone offers him a step up to head coach, we can't block that.
I found this Wade quote particularly interesting

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"I don't want to be somewhere else, but I'd like to be able to be a head coach again."
I'd like to be a head coach again + I don't want to be elsewhere = Watch your back Gary



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Get well soon, Wade!!
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I am positive that if somehow we get to a Superbowl someone in this organization will physically drop dead on the sideline.
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Reggie should get the DC job if Wade leaves.
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Or he follows Wade to be his DC.
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I'm just having a hard time accepting the timing of this whole, "Wade would like to be a head coach thing." I mean damn, couldn't he at least have waited till we won the Superbowl ( ) to come out and say this? I would have thought he would have more sense than that.
That's my biggest disappointment.


If I were a GM or owner looking for my next HC, I'm weighing this incident right here & I'm going to go back & try to determine how Wade handles adversity & distractions. Here, Wade is creating a distraction that the HC has to work against.

This is one strike.

The Cowboy job where he passively let that happen, is strike two.

One question I would always ask a former HC, is what went wrong. If I'm not satisfied with his answer, I'm moving on. When McNair hired Capers, I was impressed with the answer he gave (I don't remember it now, but I remember it was reported).... just didn't work out. The way I've heard Wade answer the question recently, "It's just perception." wouldn't fly.

That would be strike three.
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What about Del Rio?

I hear he's looking for a job.
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I noticed he had a very large bandage on his left forearm about halfway up the arm, in the Jacksonville game. I'm talking somewhere in the range of like 4 inches by 3 inches in dimension.

I also noticed on that same arm, during the Atlanta game...he had several red marks on the forearm near where that bandage was in the Jax game. It looked like I.V. sticks to me. About 3 or 4 bright red spots all in the same area.

When a patient has dialysis, don't they normally do this in the subclavian vein and not in the arm? I'm not saying it was dialysis, just asking if anybody knows about dialysis being conducted elsewhere other than the subclavian.

Just wondering if the thing with his arm is connected, even a bit remotely, to what else is going on with him. Or, maybe he just had a boo-boo and there's no further story to it.

Sorry, slow news week. Just talking about my observations of him from the Jax game, to the Falcons game, and then to this week with the reports of him being out for awhile.
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I noticed that huge bruise on his arm in the Bengals game, as well. I was wondering what happened. Perhaps it's connected to this treatment?

Texans Nation should think good thoughts and send prayers his way. No matter what happens here on out, he's certainly been nothing but positive for this franchise.
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I noticed that huge bruise on his arm in the Bengals game, as well. I was wondering what happened. Perhaps it's connected to this treatment?

Texans Nation should think good thoughts and send prayers his way. No matter what happens here on out, he's certainly been nothing but positive for this franchise.
Bruise was on the right arm, DB.

The left arm had the larger damage. If he's right handed, makes sense to do a lot of work on the left arm maybe?

I dunno. I'm not a doctor, I just play one on the Internet. LOL.

The Jax game and the Falcons game are the only two recent games to study/observe this because Wade was wearing a short-sleeve shirt in both games. Was wearing the big jacket in the Bengals game.

I went back to the Falcons game because I thought I saw the bandage on his left arm in THAT game, but there was no bandage...just a lot of large red spots concentrated in one area on his forearm. So I went back to the Jax game, and the bandage is on that same area in the Jax game. Hmmm.....
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I thought they might be removing Bob McNair's foot from Wade's ass after the "I don't want be somewhere else, but I do want to be a head coach again" comments.
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When a patient has dialysis, don't they normally do this in the subclavian vein and not in the arm? I'm not saying it was dialysis, just asking if anybody knows about dialysis being conducted elsewhere other than the subclavian.
Dialysis patients usually use large bore catheters or 'perm caths' in their internal jugular or femoral veins. They don't place those catheters in the subclavian because it can cause stenosis of the vein (which can be a detriment to the future creation of fistulas or grafts, see below), and because when they remove the catheter the collarbone makes it difficult to hold pressure over that vein.

Long term dialysis patients get fistulas (surgical connections of arteries to veins, usually in the arm) and grafts (synthetic connections of arteries to veins, either in the arm or leg).

Maybe the bruising is just from IV sticks / blood draws.
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