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Old 12-13-2011   #21
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Default Re: If Wade bails out?

I don't think Wade will leave. I think he'll stay a few more years here then retire with a couple super bowl rings.
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Default Re: If Wade bails out?

He's only getting about 1-1.5 million a year as a D-coord (average salary for that position). Head coaches make a lot more money than that, anywhere from 1-8 million a year. A guy like Wade might get 4-6 million a year for 4 years with a defensive minded team like the Dolphins, Vikings, Seahawks or Jaguars. He certainly has the resume to get a good offer, I just don't know if he really wants to leave and do that. Maybe McNair would be willing to give him a raise after such a great performance by the defense this year. That may deter him from leaving.
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I think we will see Wade plenty next year since he will probably be the Jags new HC. The way I understand it is the guy is totally happy here but still wants a HC position. Who can blame the guy for wanting to reach the pinnacle of his profession? Best of luck whatever he decides.
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I think Wade may be content at this stage to coach here for a few years.
My feelings exactly. He's home and he's never really had success as a HC. I'm sure we can give him the money to make it worth staying. Its not like he's an upcoming guy that's never been there. He's had 3 shots. Does anyone think he is that hungry for another chance and a rebuilding?
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I keep hearing talking sports heads say Wade jumps at the next head coaching position.
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You do?

Who is saying this?
John McClain AKA "Pancakes" was the first to bring it up. Its been discussed a little bit today on 790, and 610.
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Default Re: If Wade bails out?

Wade's had his opportunities to be HC in the NFL with the Broncos, Bills & Cowboys & for the most pary they always end the same way....at some point his teams just get too lax & he begins to lose them. I think most people in the NFL know that he's just not a HC & Wade himself may not even want to delve into that crap again. I think as long as Bob pays him, he'd be content to stay here in a role he knows he can be successful in & in a city where he's got so many fond memories.
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I think's it's McClain's usual speculation in order to drum up a story. He does this sort of crap all the time. He says Wade told him that he wants to be a HC again. Fine (notice there isn't a specific time period). But then McClain goes on to SPECULATE because of the job Wade has done this year with the Texans that surely someone would be interested in bringing Wade on as an HC.

The fact of the matter is a) McClain is not in Wade's head and has no idea what he thinks of the current situation and future in Houston and b) hasn't presented a shred of evidence that anybody actually wants Wade for any of the current HC jobs. In short this is all in McClain's head. Is it a possibility? Sure, but so are half a million other scenarios too.
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John McClain AKA "Pancakes" was the first to bring it up. Its been discussed a little bit today on 790, and 610.
Wow. Sure enough. Found this audio clip of McClain talking to Vandy & Lopez yesterday morning.

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I seriously can't imagine anyone hiring a 64 year old DC who has flopped (in the playoffs) at the HC position everywhere he's been.

I suppose UH could consider him....
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Default Re: If Wade bails out?

I really dont think he will go anywhere soon. I seem to remember him saying hes content with being here, and just wants to be a DC for awhile. Another thing, I think Bum would kick his ass, lol.

FYI, Charlie Pallilo was/is discussing the subject on 790 just awhile ago.
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#1 If John McClain were anything but a hack looking for attention he wouldn't need to release a story like this. Talking like this where we are at right now is bad voodoo. Like the Kevin Sumlin talk ruining UH's mindset, except I doubt Wade Phillips values money as much as Sumlin does. I'm glad he's not a famous or influential in any way, I really am.

#2 He's not going to rebuild a team, a 3 year project or anything. IF he's going it's to an established team with a solid foundation already in place.

Like say, the Texans have! How many places are going to give him the sun, the moon and the stars like the Texans did this past offseason? Tell me they didn't say, here, have anything you want. Where is he going to go where he's got a core group like his boy JJ, Barwin, Reed, Cushing, Ryans, Antonio, Manning, Joseph, Quin and let's not forget the possibility of Mario Williams coming back and getting a sack a game. They are young and with a mind like Phillips leading them they are damn good and only looking to get better with experience.

#3 MONEY??? If that's all it's really about, I think big Bob's got the horses for that.

#4 If it's ever going to matter, it's now. A good team in Houston. We're counting on you Wade. Bring it home, you'll be a legend FOREVER.
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I would imagine Wade's agent is crafting a bit of a rumor here. Or McClain is speculating due to the enormous success of Wade Phillips and how that MUST somehow translate into offers of HC coming his way soon.

Plant just enough gossip to make McNair offer Wade some more money to stay here...when Wade Phillips would be pretty risky to leave a good place like Houston at this stage in his life.

He has the opportunity to let his defense do whatever they want, because of our excellent offense and its structure and plug-and-play attributes. He's home. He's near his folks. He has a shot, a LEGITIMATE shot, at winning Super Bowls now.

Plus, in the off-season it was Wade Phillips (IIRC) who said he was done chasing that head coach rainbow.

Sure, a lot of success like he's had with us this season can change things. I just don't see this as being anything more than (a) possible "leveraging" for a salary raise from McNair, or (b) McClain leveraging Phillips' success by drumming up a rumor-rich gossip style piece...to get hits/followers, etc.

Does anybody here really think Bob McNair AND Rick Smith are going to let Wade Phillips walk away and potentially go to a divisional rival or some other AFC team and take all his secrets with him? No freaking way.

If this is about the money, then we all know that coaches do not count against the cap. So it should be an easy decision for McNair and Rick Smith.
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Wow. Sure enough. Found this audio clip of McClain talking to Vandy & Lopez yesterday morning.

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I seriously can't imagine anyone hiring a 64 year old DC who has flopped (in the playoffs) at the HC position everywhere he's been.

I suppose UH could consider him....
I heard that yesterday. Besides all this being in McClain's head, why would it be that Wade would be the head of the pack in considerations for HC for other teams?

Sure, we've had a big defensive turnaround in Houston but that ignores other candidates that could be just as good or better. If we're talking DC's why not mention Dennis Allen (DEN), or Gregg Williams (NOR), or Mike Zimmer (CLE) etc.? The most logical answer is McClain wants to stir up controversy like he usually does.
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Default Re: If Wade bails out?

I have to believe Wade's age is the biggest factor working in our favor.

How many 64 year old coaches have landed HC jobs in the NFL like ever?

Marty Schottenheimer was 58 when he landed his last job with San Diego.

Tom Coughlin was 58 when he landed his gig with the Giants.

Marv Levy was 61 when he landed the HC job in Buffalo way back in 1986.

But the trend these days is to look for the young up and comer.

I just don't see it happening for him. (Please, God.)
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John McClain should have his a$$ kicked to next Sunday for doing this, btw.

Here we are, in the midst of our first ever playoff season...in the middle of the week as we try to gain more momentum to grab a 1st round bye...and he has to drop this sort of shit on everyone???

Thanks, John. You're a champ. As if there's not a dozen OTHER things you could be reporting and commenting on...such as Yates' rise, Turk's return and how well he did vs. Bengals for us, multiple "playoff" stories involving interviews with players and Texans personnel, the release of Mason and try to talk about who replaces him and why, the injury to Briesel and what's going to happen there, and on and on and on.....

But, he has to try and scoop a story. Whether his boss(es) are telling him to pursue this, or whether he is going after it himself, makes no difference. At this point, he's the ONLY distracting voice in H-Town with this bilge.

Thanks a lot, John. I guess since Justice is gone...there was a d-bag void that had to be filled. Looks like the job is yours to lose.
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John McClain should have his a$$ kicked to next Sunday for doing this, btw.

Here we are, in the midst of our first ever playoff season...in the middle of the week as we try to gain more momentum to grab a 1st round bye...and he has to drop this sort of shit on everyone???

Thanks, John. You're a champ. As if there's not a dozen OTHER things you could be reporting and commenting on...such as Yates' rise, Turk's return and how well he did vs. Bengals for us, multiple "playoff" stories involving interviews with players and Texans personnel, the release of Mason and try to talk about who replaces him and why, the injury to Briesel and what's going to happen there, and on and on and on.....

But, he has to try and scoop a story. Whether his boss(es) are telling him to pursue this, or whether he is going after it himself, makes no difference. At this point, he's the ONLY distracting voice in H-Town with this bilge.

Thanks a lot, John. I guess since Justice is gone...there was a d-bag void that had to be filled. Looks like the job is yours to lose.
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John McClain should have his a$$ kicked to next Sunday for doing this, btw.

Here we are, in the midst of our first ever playoff season...in the middle of the week as we try to gain more momentum to grab a 1st round bye...and he has to drop this sort of shit on everyone???

Thanks, John. You're a champ. As if there's not a dozen OTHER things you could be reporting and commenting on...such as Yates' rise, Turk's return and how well he did vs. Bengals for us, multiple "playoff" stories involving interviews with players and Texans personnel, the release of Mason and try to talk about who replaces him and why, the injury to Briesel and what's going to happen there, and on and on and on.....

But, he has to try and scoop a story. Whether his boss(es) are telling him to pursue this, or whether he is going after it himself, makes no difference. At this point, he's the ONLY distracting voice in H-Town with this bilge.

Thanks a lot, John. I guess since Justice is gone...there was a d-bag void that had to be filled. Looks like the job is yours to lose.
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This. +1

Where are you guys getting all this from? Where did you hear that Wade wanted to leave?
From what I have heard, "experts" think he will want to leave since he has had a successful season. This in no way means Wade will want to leave.

In my opinion Wade is happy being back in Houston and won't want to leave.
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Thanks a lot, John. I guess since Justice is gone...there was a d-bag void that had to be filled. Looks like the job is yours to lose.

WHAT!!!? When did Justice leave? I haven't taken the local ragsheet in years, and RJ is part of the reason!! Where have I been? Can't believe I didn't know that! Damn, gettin OLD is a biatch! I gotta do a better job of keeping up!!

EDIT: Sorry! I got so excited about what GP wrote i forgot what I wanted to post!

Bum is gettin old, and I doubt Wade will want to stray very far from his Dad. He has it all, right here in H-town, and from what I've heard from interviews, he's very happy doing what he's doing. He's a "homeboy" and that means a lot to him. He'll stay close to Dad! JMO!!
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John McClain should have his a$$ kicked to next Sunday for doing this, btw.

Here we are, in the midst of our first ever playoff season...in the middle of the week as we try to gain more momentum to grab a 1st round bye...and he has to drop this sort of shit on everyone???

Thanks, John. You're a champ. As if there's not a dozen OTHER things you could be reporting and commenting on...such as Yates' rise, Turk's return and how well he did vs. Bengals for us, multiple "playoff" stories involving interviews with players and Texans personnel, the release of Mason and try to talk about who replaces him and why, the injury to Briesel and what's going to happen there, and on and on and on.....

But, he has to try and scoop a story. Whether his boss(es) are telling him to pursue this, or whether he is going after it himself, makes no difference. At this point, he's the ONLY distracting voice in H-Town with this bilge.

Thanks a lot, John. I guess since Justice is gone...there was a d-bag void that had to be filled. Looks like the job is yours to lose.
yep. He's a Titan-loving traitor to this city as far as I'm concerned.

He's still bitter that the Texans FO locked him out after his buddy Casserly was given the boot.

His football analysis is lame. He's only good for war stories, that's in between him babbling about whatever movie he and the missus just watched.

He can be entertaining, especially about history, but this story just makes me wonder about where his head is at. Why even run with it? I hear nothing about it on ESPN or NFLN.

I would honestly be surprised if Wade leaves this gig anytime soon. The Phillips family is royalty in this town! His dad is a local hero and an ambassador for the Texans. The fanbase loves Wade, and it's obvious that the defensive players are buying into his system 100%.

I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that McNair takes care of him. He'd be crazy to leave this job for the demands of a HC gig with a crappy team that needs a 3-4 year rebuild.
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