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Old 12-13-2011   #1
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Default If Wade bails out?

I keep hearing talking sports heads say Wade jumps at the next head coaching position.

Who do we get to replace him?

The guy that is the D-coord at UH is a Wade desciple and was the former DC at Dallas.

Might be a good fit? Who else plays a similar 3-4 scheme..

(and not just a regular 3-4)

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Default Re: If Wade bails out?

Vance Joseph becomes D-Coordinator.

The job he has done with our secondary is quite remarkable.

Promote him if Wade leaves.
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Default Re: If Wade bails out?

Then we make Wade the head coach.
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Default Re: If Wade bails out?

McNair will pay Wade to stay.
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Default Re: If Wade bails out?

ha ha. Might make the team better if Wade is the HC and Gary is the OC. He could focus even more on play calling..

Or maybe we could just pay Wade like a second head coach? I sure would hate for the guy to leave Houston -- gives me the same "gut punch" feeling as when Bud fired Bum..

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Default Re: If Wade bails out?

I think Wade may be content at this stage to coach here for a few years.
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I keep hearing talking sports heads say Wade jumps at the next head coaching position.

Who do we get to replace him?

The guy that is the D-coord at UH is a Wade desciple and was the former DC at Dallas.

Might be a good fit? Who else plays a similar 3-4 scheme..

(and not just a regular 3-4)

TJ
If you're going to go with the UH defensive coordinator, then I would consider A&M's coordinator. The defense wasn't that good this year, but I don't think he had a whole lot of talent to work with either.
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ha ha. Might make the team better if Wade is the HC and Gary is the OC. He could focus even more on play calling..

Or maybe we could just pay Wade like a second head coach? I sure would hate for the guy to leave Houston -- gives me the same "gut punch" feeling as when Bud fired Bum..

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If I'm choosing out of the two, I'm taking Wade all day. Before this season, he had gotten Dallas to the playoffs 2 out of 4 seasons while Gary was 0-5 in making the post season and is not about to go for the first time when Wade comes here. I'll take some of that Wade.
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Default Re: If Wade bails out?

I'll give you the same answer as Kubiak gave monday, if it happens it happens and good luck to him. It's part of the game.

Not that I think he's leaving, but if he does then ok, and good luck
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If I'm choosing out of the two, I'm taking Wade all day. Before this season, he had gotten Dallas to the playoffs 2 out of 4 seasons while Gary was 0-5 in making the post season and is not about to go for the first time when Wade comes here. I'll take some of that Wade.
The main reason I would rather have Gary over Wade is the difference in passion and commitment they inspire in their players. Wade's team quit on him in Dallas. You can say a lot about Kube's past failings, but his players have always fought tooth and nail for him, even if entirely impotent in their efforts.
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I'll give you the same answer as Kubiak gave monday, if it happens it happens and good luck to him. It's part of the game.

Not that I think he's leaving, but if he does then ok, and good luck
What if he leaves? Well, then we may suck again.

Now, if you were Jacksonville or Indianapolis, wouldn't you be calling the guy? Not to say he would leave for those teams, but man wouldn't that suck if he left for one of those teams
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I will wait and see if Wade even wants to be a HC again before I worry about who is next.
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What if he leaves? Well, then we may suck again.

Now, if you were Jacksonville or Indianapolis, wouldn't you be calling the guy? Not to say he would leave for those teams, but man wouldn't that suck if he left for one of those teams
Whatever will be, will be.

I'm too old to worry about that stuff, it happens for both players & coaches. If we revert back to suck, well then... I'll still be here, such is fandom

Ride that rollercoaster!!!
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I will wait and see if Wade even wants to be a HC again before I worry about who is next.
This. +1

Where are you guys getting all this from? Where did you hear that Wade wanted to leave?
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This. +1

Where are you guys getting all this from? Where did you hear that Wade wanted to leave?
So what you're really saying is that the sky is falling?
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Default Re: If Wade bails out?

John McClain said so on AM 610 about 5:30 last night. He said there was a lot of interest in Phillips as a head coach around the league after the job he has done in Houston this year. And he said that Phillips was very much interested in pursuing those offers because of course he wants to be a head coach again - they all do.
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John McClain said so on AM 610 about 5:30 last night. He said there was a lot of interest in Phillips as a head coach around the league after the job he has done in Houston this year. And he said that Phillips was very much interested in pursuing those offers because of course he wants to be a head coach again - they all do.
If he leaves, then he leaves. Can't do too much about it.

A couple of negatives for him as a head coach candidiate:

1. The man is 64 years old. These days the NFL is all about finding that hot up and coming coordinator or trying to lure the Superbowl coach out of retirement. Wade never was a Super Bowl winning coach and is not a youngster. being a Head coach may be for a younger guy.

2. As a head coach, while his teams have won a lot of games, they have significantly underachieved in the playoffs. In 2007, his 13-3 Cowboys laid an egg and lost to the Giants, who they should have beaten. In 2008, his team did not even make the playoffs. In 2009, they got stomped on 34-3 by Minnesota and the vaunted Dallas D led by Wade was humiliated. That of course led to him getting fired last year after a disastrous 1-7 start. He has a 1-5 record in the post season. His teams have never gotten past the AFC or NFC divisional series despite having some pretty stacked teams.

3. Wade reminds me of Marty Schotenheimer. In fact they are about the same age. Both are defensive minded coaches who had underachieving playoff teams. Marty was 5-13 and Wade is 1-5. When Marty was fired he couldn't get an NFL job anywhere and finally got a chance in the UFL this past season.

4. Does he even really want to leave. As a D coordinator in Htown he has complete control of his defense. In the draft he had complete control over picking players he needed for his defense. In Htown, his Head coach is a guy who looked up to him and his father. Wade is a Texas Good Old Boy whose schtick and demeanor work well in Htown, but it doesn't play nearly as well other places. In San Diego, Denver, and Buffalo he was criticized numerous times for being a "drawling Texan." Being a D coordinator as long as his D plays reasonably well he deflects all criticism. He also seems to genuinely enjoy coaching defensive players.

My guess is he stays this for one additional year. Next year will be the key. If he stays a second year he may become our perennial D coordinator like Lebau became to Pitt.
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I think more and more teams are starting to realize that it wasn't Wade Phillips who ruined the Cowboys, it was Jerry interfering with Wade Phillips that ruined the Cowboys, the Texans defense this year proves it. It makes sense that hes getting offers but if I was in his position I would look at what I have to work with. One of the youngest and most talented group of defensive players in the league, a front office, owner and GM who will draft who you want if you need it or want it, and the chance to be a part of what will hopefully become a Dynasty football team in the 2010's starting with 2011/2012. I think he would be a fool to walk away from what he has here, and I know Bum didn't raise no fool.
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If Wade Jumps ship I will PERSONALLY kick his muff-huggin' ass. Anyone in the Blue Crew (other than SheTexan) want to join me on this one?

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Uncle Wade will be made happy and we will take care of him.
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