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View Poll Results: How do you handle Matt Schaub's contract?
Trade him for picks this off-season, Yates starts next season. 15 15.00%
Let him walk after next season, Yates sits next season, starts the following. 26 26.00%
Re-sign Schaub and find the cap room elsewhere. 59 59.00%
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Old 03-27-2012   #161
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You could franchise him for a year too. What is brees getting under that designation this year?

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More than we should pay Schaub - I think like close to $16 million. It will probably be more next year.
Brees was tagged with the "Exclusive" franchise tag which results in his one year salary being the average of the top 5 paid QB's for 2012. As of right now, I don't believe the exact number has been finalized. It will probably be between $16 & $17 Million.

The non-exclusive tag for a QB in 2012 was about $14.5 Million (not used by anyone). Most folks expect very little change in that number for 2013.
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Brees was tagged with the "Exclusive" franchise tag which results in his one year salary being the average of the top 5 paid QB's for 2012. As of right now, I don't believe the exact number has been finalized. It will probably be between $16 & $17 Million.

The non-exclusive tag for a QB in 2012 was about $14.5 Million (not used by anyone). Most folks expect very little change in that number for 2013.
Thanks Champ! I don't even really know what a longterm contract # for Schaub would look like. Maybe around $12M - $14M per year? 5 Year $70M? Could be more.... eek
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Our next QB will be 1st round pick in the draft 3 years from now or one of NE backup QB's like Mallet or something

Hopefully that does not happen tho hopefully schaub can win a SB or two and then retire a texan and have Yates waiting to replace him
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The problem is, you can get better at the position, although you're by no means guaranteed to, he's the wrong side of 30, and the O has shown it can tick over well without him.
He's a QB, I don't think 30 is a problem. If he were still trying to "make a name for himself" maybe, but he's got enough snap to be a starter in this league for at least another 3 or 4 years.
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Only thing I'd worry about with schaub is his physical capabilities and how he'd hold up as an older qb. He's had some injuries in the past. He had a long stretch of good health, but that stuff takes a toll on your body.

And now with this injury hell likely be even less mobile. If schaub is a starting qb and playing well close to or in his mid thirties it will be a a few levels below amazing IMO. Just simply from a health perspective.
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Trade da Aint's for Brees in all the confusion and drunken disarray of Bourbon Street-They will never notice with Payton on his year long soul searching journey.
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Th thing about him being 'the wrong side of 30' may not be an issue as a QB, but it certainly could be an issue when it comes to rehabbing from major injuries.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...ub-during-otas

kubiack saying his going to be cautious with schaub come OTA
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kubiack saying his going to be cautious with schaub come OTA
"He's got a little hardware in his foot that he'll have to have removed here in a couple of weeks."

Until that happens they have no clue as to "if" the procedure was a complete success, and what the future will hold for Matt. Anyone saying he is going to be able to play next year or ever for that matter at this point just doesn't understand the injury.
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Didn't he say that with Joppru, Mario (several times), Arian, & Aj (several times)?

I don't think it means what you think it means.
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Didn't he say that with Joppru, Mario (several times), Arian, & Aj (several times)?

I don't think it means what you think it means.

Kubiak said that with Foster too. He says that about all his nicked up kids.


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The wrong side of 30 thing usually means RBs not QBs. QBs can play well into their 30's. especially a guy like schaub in that being mobile is not really part of his game. Quick reads and smart decisions(apart from the one brain fart int a game) are more his forte. It's no coincidence that when he went out, sacks went up. But at the same time, if you can upgrade, you do.

He's a mediocre to good Qb. And that's all he'll ever be. If you find a franchise QB, go for it. But at the same time I know there's 15 other teams that wish they could have him.

I say keep him until someone else proves they're better.
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There is so little to chose from in any attempt to replace Schaub and his agent will be whispering that to him next offseason. Matt would be silly to sign early.
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There is so little to chose from in any attempt to replace Schaub and his agent will be whispering that to him next offseason. Matt would be silly to sign early.
Yep, I doubt the Texans sign Schaub before he's had chance to prove his fitness in competitive games, and I doubt Schaub would sign after that point. It just doesn't make sense for either side to do it.

I'll repeat as it seems to have been taken out of context, wrong side of 30 to be coming back from a major injury, not wrong side of 30 to be an effective, injury free QB.
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Just looking back over this thread I'm sure a few people have changed their mind by now (and there's nothing wrong with that).

I think TJ looks worse now than he did before putting a body of work on tape, and I doubt we'd be where we are right now had we gone with him as the starter.

I doubt there is anyone in this thread who can't point to the timing of Schaubs new contract as mitigation from their viewpoint, it was after all far too early to pull the trigger.

Also worth remembering that just because a Russel Wilson isn't getting the hype doesn't mean he's not available from the draft, and certainly this year had we taken Wilson in the first and skipped merci altogether, I really don't think we'd have missed him too much.

Not trying to be revisionist, just pointing out that the assumption is always that you cant draft a qb outside the top 10 and have him start. If the coaches see things they like and the guy is there for you, take him and rely on your ability to coach him into what you need. That's why Seattle went from shambles to playoffs in just one year.
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OK, so Matt Schaub's contract needs renewing after next season. With the talent we now have and the youth of this team, the Texans will be in a tight spot signing a number of players to contracts over the next year or two.

With that said, does the emergence of TJ Yates as someone with a higher cieling than Schaub lead the Texans into a difficult decision.

Apart from simply, do you let Schaub go or keep him, there is the question of whether to trade him and get some picks in return this coming offseason, or do you prefer to sit Yates next season and let him learn before making him the full time starter.

I know I'm probably getting ahead of myself somewhat, but then again everyone was talking about trading Mario before we'd even seen Brooks Reed play so maybe this discussion is overdue!
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I think we need to sit on Schaub's contract until the end of next season. He's going to be 32 by the end of the 2012 season, and probably won't fetch too much on the free agent market given his injury history. I don't think he will be very expensive to re-sign at that point compared to other QBs around the league. We should work to retain him, but after his foot injury it will all depend on how he plays next season if he does play at all.
Trading Mario might have meant we still had the right side of our O line and a couple of draft choices to boot. I still contend that keeping Mario for his last season knowing we could not keep him has hurt this team and could be the biggest mistake this FO has made.

The post by dutch was also the most reasonable answer. Why we extended when we did I have no clue. This is another move that brings about dead money and puts the team in cap hell.
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I think TJ looks worse now than he did before putting a body of work on tape, and I doubt we'd be where we are right now had we gone with him as the starter.
I don't think we have to tear down Tj Yates to support Schaub.

I didn't think it was a mistake to extend Matt. If they saw enough to satisfy them that his foot was good to go, so be it. He came out looking pretty good early in the season so it looked to me that they were right. I still haven't seen or heard anything credible to make me believe Schaub is suffering from foot problems.

Schaub is efficient, he "can" make all the throws, he's smart & early in the season showed that he improved in taking care of the ball. We're paying a slight premium for a starting QB & that's what Matt has delivered, better than middle of the pack starting QB.

I would like someone more mobile. I would have waited to see big time play in the play-offs. But that's me.
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Hey, I was l for Wilson and he was drafted quite a few spots after Posey.

I suggested Wilson and Keenum both to compete with Yates.
I thought both have better upside than Yates, besides being short, obviously, LOL.

I didn't mind trading Yates for whatever and keep both of those two guys.
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