Matt Schaub's Contract

[hot pickle]

even if we make it deep into the playoffs with yates. getting rid of schaub will cause us to go backwards.

[GlassHalfFull]

Originally Posted by HJam72

Premature DeMattation.

LOL. this

[thunderkyss]

If I'm Rick Smith, I've got to start asking myself this question. However, I have to balance winning now, with winning in the future. Right now, I'm hoping TJ Yates increases his value over the next 6 weeks or so.

I would be just as apt to trade him for two 2s as I would be to trade Matt Schaub. If Kubiak says he can win a Super Bowl with Matt.

At the same time, if he says he can win the Super Bowl with TJ Yates, I'd be willing to trade Schaub for a 1st & 2nd.

If TJ continues to impress, I doubt the two would co-exist very long on the same team so I would definitely be thinking about moving one of the two. But I wouldn't bring it up to Gary or anyone on the team or coaching staff... not even ownership.


They've all got more important things to worry about.

[leebigeztx]

I think its good to think about this. I don't think schaub will be ready until this time next year. I would tell schaub we will reduce his salary to 1m and he can make up the rest by active roster bonus or snaps. Say what you will and the stat whores can pull up all thenumbers they want, but schaub is a kubiak creation. Yates may not have the numbers right now, but we know he doesn't need a perfect pocket and he doesn't ball up like a baby in the pocket. He has a much better arm and can throw on the run a lot better. The run game and defense can be leaned on until he's matures. Yates has a bigger ball of clay.

[Hervoyel]

It's too soon to make any kind of informed decision on this. At this point Yates has made a case for replacing Leinart as the 2.

He's getting better by the week and if he keeps improving then he might be pushing Schaub in camp next year or even begin the year as the starter if Schaub isn't ready to go. If he keeps getting better and carries this team to a Super Bowl then sure, he's the starter because that's how the NFL works.

I think there's enough time left in this season + playoffs for Yates to take that job. I can't say he's done it yet.

[Texan_Bill]

Really??? FAIL on so many levels!

OP!!

[DocBar]

Originally Posted by leebigeztx

I think its good to think about this. I don't think schaub will be ready until this time next year. I would tell schaub we will reduce his salary to 1m and he can make up the rest by active roster bonus or snaps. Say what you will and the stat whores can pull up all thenumbers they want, but schaub is a kubiak creation. Yates may not have the numbers right now, but we know he doesn't need a perfect pocket and he doesn't ball up like a baby in the pocket. He has a much better arm and can throw on the run a lot better. The run game and defense can be leaned on until he's matures. Yates has a bigger ball of clay.

Originally Posted by Hervoyel

It's too soon to make any kind of informed decision on this. At this point Yates has made a case for replacing Leinart as the 2.

He's getting better by the week and if he keeps improving then he might be pushing Schaub in camp next year or even begin the year as the starter if Schaub isn't ready to go. If he keeps getting better and carries this team to a Super Bowl then sure, he's the starter because that's how the NFL works.

I think there's enough time left in this season + playoffs for Yates to take that job. I can't say he's done it yet.

If we win one playoff game, regardless of seeding, Yates will have earned a QB controversy and it will be very difficult to deal Schaub before he's a UFA. Besides, Schaub isn't gonna play second fiddle in this league. With some prominent signing coming up this season, it might well be a decision between Schaub and MW. I lean towards keeping the guy I demonized all season. Right now.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by DocBar

If we win one playoff game, regardless of seeding, Yates will have earned a QB controversy...

It all depends on how we win. If we're the #3 seed & play the Jets or Pats & they are unable to stop the run, Foster & Tate run for 100 yards each, two touchdowns a piece & our defense does it's thing... Yates hadn't earned anything.

But if things go the way they did yesterday... yeah, controversy started.

[TexansLucky13]

It will be a very interesting situation next year after Yates wins the Super Bowl

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by HJam72

Premature DeMattation.

I concur. Premature DeMattulation

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

If I'm Rick Smith, I've got to start asking myself this question.

Um, no you don't. Schaub's under contract for 2012. He's not going to get extended while he's injured, and no one knows when he will be back on the field. There's no logical reason to force the issue.

[drs23]

Originally Posted by srrono

lol way to early to think about this

You're kidding yourself if you don't think Rick Smith hasn't been thinking about this for at least 3 1/2 games. It's his job and I think he's doing OK lately. Just like the head coach we've watched him learn on the job. I'm beginning to believe it takes about six years to mature at this level when you've never been there before. Granted, in this instant gratification society we're in now, NFL management just don't get that kind of time to prove themselves. Ask Tony Sparono and Todd Haley.

Perhaps McNair had a clue to what he was doing.

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

Premature.

Sure it is but someone is gonna bring it up because it's a valid point. Doc Jean talks about whether/when he comes back quite a bit in several different threads. Bottom line is if Matt can't come back and be the one (which I think will happen) then what trade value would he have?

[Playoffs]

Originally Posted by DexmanC

I concur. Premature DeMattulation

Premature Mattjaculation.

[Goldensilence]

Whether is fair or not at some point Matt's history of injury is a cause for concern and will play into whether he gets extended or not.

Very Premature on Yates too, but the kid looks like a gamer. Just not sure if he is franchise type material.

Either way, I'd much rather concern myself with keeping Foster and Tate around. Makes it easier to take a chance on a young guy when you've got a killer running game grinding away at opponents.

A year away, and Texans fans are still fickle. Some things do indeed never change.

[Premier]

hand the franchise over to yates... trade schaub and get what you can for him. quite a few QB hungry teams, only problem i see is there are some quality QBs coming out the draft this year.. to think, yates has only been playing organized football for 5 years. NC fans say he improved every year.. he already shows more poise, confidence, arm strength, mobility, & heart than schaub has ever shown, yates is more talented than schaub bottomline and has the QB traits you cant teach.. some of the guys around these texans board seem to be holding onto something with matt schaub, i keep being reminded about his 9k yards and all-star game MVP like it means something.. plain & simple schaub has 1 year left on his contract, if hes not gonna be apart of the texans future, trade him while he has value (he will be exposed when he no longer plays in the texans system)...

Winners win, losers make excuses....

[2BCF]

Originally Posted by asleep

Premature Mattjaculation.

Premature OurMattsGotJackedUp

[edo783]

Originally Posted by Premier

hand the franchise over to yates... trade schaub and get what you can for him. quite a few QB hungry teams, only problem i see is there are some quality QBs coming out the draft this year.. to think, yates has only been playing organized football for 5 years. NC fans say he improved every year.. he already shows more poise, confidence, arm strength, mobility, & heart than schaub has ever shown, yates is more talented than schaub bottomline and has the QB traits you cant teach.. some of the guys around these texans board seem to be holding onto something with matt schaub, i keep being reminded about his 9k yards and all-star game MVP like it means something.. plain & simple schaub has 1 year left on his contract, if hes not gonna be apart of the texans future, trade him while he has value (he will be exposed when he no longer plays in the texans system)...

Winners win, losers make excuses....

Good grief, to say you are suffering from premature every thing would not be a stretch. Now that being said, matt for another year with Tj in second place would be a reasonable situation. we have to see how the rest of the season plays out. I LIKe what I am seeing from TJ., but we need to move a bit more cautiously than what some would propose.

[Allstar]

Wow, If the season were to end today, there is no doubt that Schaub is still the starter. TJ still has A LOT to prove to challenge Matt.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by DexmanC

I concur. Premature DeMattulation

Depends on which Matt we're DeMattulating...

Schaub, yeah, this discussion is interesting but a bit premature. If you're talking Leinart, we should get him healthy and showcase him next preseason so we can trade him. Keep Delhomme as the 3rd stringer.

[Premier]

ive seen enough of schaub to know what to expect from him. the texans arent going to be beating teams like baltimore, pitsburgh, new england, or new york in the playoffs with scores of 41-7.. playoff games with these teams will be close and will require a drive or 2 with a QB that doesn't shrink, concede sacks, and doesnt get that deer in the headlights look when hes under pressure.. schaub gets happy feet and makes dumb decisions because hes scared.. HES A SCARED QUARTERBACK.. why cant you people see this??


i dont need to be sold on schaub, im a texans fan, ive seen every game hes played. i used to defend the guy, not anymore.. im with the crowd that doesnt want him to be the houston texans quarterback anymore..