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Old 12-11-2011   #41
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The bottom line is the team finds a way to win. The Bengals kept having to kick field goals and it allowed us to stay close. We didn't deserve to win this game but the guys stayed with it and made huge plays when it mattered most.
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The bottom line is the team finds a way to win. The Bengals kept having to kick field goals and it allowed us to stay close. We didn't deserve to win this game but the guys stayed with it and made huge plays when it mattered most.
Yeah , kinda reminds you of the Aints game earlier in the year ..... with the Texans being held to FG's and the Aints making plays when it mattered most.
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Default Re: A couple Kubiak errors...

I didn't mind the call to go for it on 4th and 2, but the playcalling at that point left a lot to be desired.

I'm ok with Kubes throwing the red flag on the Foster play.

What generated the most head scratching was not having Foster on the field inside the red zone. That's just stupid.
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doubt it, solid play call regardless of outcome. kubiak builds all season for plays like that. we set up a run that we've used before near the goalline and gave the kid an easy to see route combination. if it ends up a pick folks would raise hell, but that was a strong and well set up playcall.
My point is majority of fans won't think it would be solid playcalling if it fails.

You honestly believe if that resulted in a Safety that fans will state "man that was solid play calling, too bad we didn't execute" over "everyone knows in that situation you have to run it out of the endzone, especially with a rookie qb in his second game."

My major point is that hindsight is 20/20 and people will always question playcalling if it fails.
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I don't know about the general, unintelligent public but it's fairly easy to declare something a good or bad call regardless of whether it fails or succeeds.
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I thought that was a solid challenge. Didn't seem like Foster had possession and he simply bobbled it. He never cradled the ball in.
Homerism at its finest. That play boggled my mind, I thought for sure it was an incomplete pass. upon replay it was a clear catch and fumble. And I'm a diehard Texans fan.
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Homerism at its finest. That play boggled my mind, I thought for sure it was an incomplete pass. upon replay it was a clear catch and fumble. And I'm a diehard Texans fan.
Idiocracy at its finest

It was a valid challenge...I've seen hits laid out in which the the receiver held the ball longer than foster called for incomplete passes. He barely had time to plant his feet when the db already had knocked it out of his hands.

The one play where Joseph laid a hard hit on a receiver, the receiver held the ball much longer (not in this game, but another) and that was called an incomplete.

Homerism my ass. If this was between two other random teams my thought would still be the same regardless of who I was cheering for. Don't be an *****.

You goto the bungles forum and they don't even believe its a fumble.
Why not shut your face.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...ans-Hot-fumble

http://boards.bengals.com/showthread...=91425&page=40
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The bottom line is the team finds a way to win. The Bengals kept having to kick field goals and it allowed us to stay close. We didn't deserve to win this game but the guys stayed with it and made huge plays when it mattered most.
We may not have "deserved to win this game" but we did and I'll take it! I know the Cincy fans and team are feeling terrible after the loss but believe me, with the way the Texans luck has been the past 10 years and the Oilers before that, it's about time we started having the luck go our way for a change. JMHO!
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Default Re: A couple Kubiak errors...

This isn't necessarily a Kubiak error, but....

For the love of everything that is pure in this world, can we please coach every return guy to take a knee in the endzone?

I want to chart all of our kick returns, but I'm willing to bet 80% of the time when we come out of the endzone we are starting at best at the 15. Take the knee and start at the 20. We don't have anyone that is capable of making a big kickoff return. They give the return stats based on where the player catches it in the endzone. If they are 8 yards deep and run it out to the 15 they count that as a 23 yard return. Excuse me? You should only get credit for the yards with hashmarks.

Too many bad things can happen when we bring it out. We had a fumble today that luckily was recovered by us. We've had blocks in the back pushing us back even more.

Maybe this isn't the right place to vent about this, but it bothers me every week.
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This isn't necessarily a Kubiak error, but....

For the love of everything that is pure in this world, can we please coach every return guy to take a knee in the endzone?

I want to chart all of our kick returns, but I'm willing to bet 80% of the time when we come out of the endzone we are starting at best at the 15. Take the knee and start at the 20. We don't have anyone that is capable of making a big kickoff return. They give the return stats based on where the player catches it in the endzone. If they are 8 yards deep and run it out to the 15 they count that as a 23 yard return. Excuse me? You should only get credit for the yards with hashmarks.

Too many bad things can happen when we bring it out. We had a fumble today that luckily was recovered by us. We've had blocks in the back pushing us back even more.

Maybe this isn't the right place to vent about this, but it bothers me every week.
McManis was ..... pathetic , they switched to Demps and he made the only decent return of the day ..... out to the 27 I believe. So we werent the only people to notice the lack of production there.

I dont care if its the right place or not , you make a solid point.
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i really hope manning is 100% by the playoffs, because i expect (and we'll need) him to take kick return duties. dude is all world back there and that field position very well may win a game.
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The reason the 4th and 2 call was a bad decision was not because Kubiak decided to go for it but because his decision to have Neil Rackers on this team without bringing any more healthy competition. Kubiak was forced to go for it on that 4th and 2 because we were on the road and Rackers continues to miss makeable FGs like the one prior to that 4ht and 2 call.

Also, let's give credit where credit is due. Kubiak called a hell of a play on that last TD. When you see how Walter intentionally went under the TE routes....damn that was a good call.
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My point is majority of fans won't think it would be solid playcalling if it fails.

You honestly believe if that resulted in a Safety that fans will state "man that was solid play calling, too bad we didn't execute" over "everyone knows in that situation you have to run it out of the endzone, especially with a rookie qb in his second game."

My major point is that hindsight is 20/20 and people will always question playcalling if it fails.
It's only great play-calling if it works. If they know what we're doing, if we are that predictable, then it is not "great play-calling"

Keeping them on their heels, staying with what our team can confidently execute, not asking them to do things they are not built/capable of doing (slamming it up the middle)... that's great play-calling.
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The bottom line is the team finds a way to win. The Bengals kept having to kick field goals and it allowed us to stay close. We didn't deserve to win this game but the guys stayed with it and made huge plays when it mattered most.
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Homerism at its finest. That play boggled my mind, I thought for sure it was an incomplete pass. upon replay it was a clear catch and fumble. And I'm a diehard Texans fan.
It may have a little to do with homerism, but honestly anyone who is an NFL fan has seen plays like that overturned time and time again... I was kind of in between seeing it live, and just assumed it was a catch and fumble, but i went opposite of you after review... Right after his feet hit the ground, and before any football move was made, Foster was bobbling the ball... Many a time i've seen balls held longer than that ruled incomplete...

Lastly, all you had to do was pay attention to the ruling to know that 'in this case' it was a good challenge... "the ruling on the field stands!"... It was not "confirmed"! Most of the time it is overturned...



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