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Old 12-11-2011   #21
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does'nt matter when it was made I still don't agree with either thing you said. My opinion of plays like that does not change depending on whether we win or lose. I thought they were good decisions by Kubiak when they happened you thought they were bad decisions. Thats what the main point of my post was about.
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I thought that was a solid challenge. Didn't seem like Foster had possession and he simply bobbled it. He never cradled the ball in.
The last view of it they showed , from behind the play gave a clear view and Foster never had possession .... Should have been an incomplet pass.

Tough call for the officials to overturn tho since it was ruled a catch and fumble on the field.
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surely didn't help today.

The 4 and 2 call, and the bad challenge were serious blows to this game.
I was OK with the 4th down call .... being down two scores late , you have to take some chances. Having the best defense in the league to lean on should you not make it .... makes the decision easy.
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I will say the yates sprint on a 3rd down run was really good
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Default Re: A couple Kubiak errors...

When Kubiak doesn''t take go for it on 4th down, "he's too conservative", when Kubiak goes for it on 4th down, "what a stupid call", surely its only a smart call when it works but you can't have it both way. I had no problem with that call and I thought for sure that was an incomplete by Foster just like last week was an incomplete by Yates.
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This is the first time the Texans have won a game while f-ing up for 4
quarters. I don't make ANY predictions, and my expectations for a loss
are more than supported by evidence on record. That being sad, I'm
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What's worse, is you're attacking me with hindsight. Why you wanna
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ha so its fine for you to attack kubiak in hindsight but if anybody then does it to you, you get your panties in a bunch

the challenge was a good one. the 4th down play was bad only because IN HINDSIGHT it didnt work
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for this thread on this day.
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surely didn't help today.

The 4 and 2 call, and the bad challenge were serious blows to this game.
I thought that was a good challenge. I personally didn't think Foster had it long enough for it to be a legit catch. It could have easily gone either way.

Going for the 4th and 2 was a good call (imo) because they were just outside the brink of Rackers FG range. Get it there and you should be at least getting three points that drive. It obviously didn't work, and the fumble caused Houston to lose about twenty yards on that play.
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Agree and Dex hasn't updated his sig yet...
If you knew that 9+3 = 12, then you'd also know why my sig doesn't need
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Meh , how bout giving Kubiak some credit for the play design on the TD ..... Walter was ..... Wide Open.
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surely didn't help today.

The 4 and 2 call, and the bad challenge were serious blows to this game.
i didnt like the 4th down call either. i'm 50/50 on going for it, but i thought kubiak made a very poor call by putting his rookie in that position. if you're going to go for a 4th and 2 you either run it or get your young quarterback out of the pocket. a 5 step drop on 4th down is trouble, and not something to expose your rookie quarterback to, especially against such a good defense.

the challenge was a good one, foster had "possession" for a fraction of a second and didnt come anywhere close to a "football move" before the ball came out.


also, as one of the ultimate kubiak homers myself, i think these are valid points - folks need to stop being so dang quick to jump on dex.
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Win or lose, doesn't change the fact that the challenge was a good challenge, he didn't have it all of the way, no football move etc... Then the play after the failed challenge we saw an excellent play called...

The 4th down call? Bleh, it was what it was... Maybe not the best call for that down, i would have liked a roll-out and at least give Yates a chance with his legs if nothing else...

And to hit at it again, what does it matter if this post was made because one thought they'd lose? It's the risk you take trying to call your shot...the plate was made, he's a big boy and will have to eat it...


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Meh , how bout giving Kubiak some credit for the play design on the TD ..... Walter was ..... Wide Open.
absolutely! kubiak knew the defense would be keying on daniels, who perfectly executed the pick, blocking the linebacker exactly 5 yards past the line before making his cut and drawing in the other linebacker. great call, and clearly a team that was very well-prepared to run it.

just as good to me, if not better, was the yates QB keeper on 3rd and 4 on the drive that ended with the 4th and 2. such a magnificent play call that i almost wished they'd have saved it for the playoffs.
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Remember the first play right after the interception where we were in our own endzone and Yates came out throwing?

If that play had failed, everyone would have jumped on Kubiak...but as was mentioned before, plays only look brilliant if executed well and bad if not.
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Remember the first play right after the interception where we were in our own endzone and Yates came out throwing?

If that play had failed, everyone would have jumped on Kubiak...but as was mentioned before, plays only look brilliant if executed well and bad if not.
doubt it, solid play call regardless of outcome. kubiak builds all season for plays like that. we set up a run that we've used before near the goalline and gave the kid an easy to see route combination. if it ends up a pick folks would raise hell, but that was a strong and well set up playcall.
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I was OK with the 4th down call .... being down two scores late , you have to take some chances. Having the best defense in the league to lean on should you not make it .... makes the decision easy.
Too much time on the clock. We could have got a field goal there & Rackets next field goal could've got us within three, where a field goal at the end could have tied it, instead of needing a td to win.

I dont like that call there. The challenge could have gone either way. I'd have let it go, thought the time out was too valuable, didn't think the replay was conclusive.
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Remember the first play right after the interception where we were in our own endzone and Yates came out throwing?

If that play had failed, everyone would have jumped on Kubiak...but as was mentioned before, plays only look brilliant if executed well and bad if not.
As I recall, last week when TJ threw a pick six that was nulllified by D-Rob's holding, Kubes went to the air immediately on the next play. I think he's making it clear that he has confidence in his young QB. And let's face it -- at this point he has to...
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Imagine if we had actually lost this game! It'd be on Kubiak, not the 4 turnovers!
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