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Old 12-04-2011   #101
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I'd take the guy who has FOUR interceptions in only playing 50% snaps, in comparison to the guy who has ONE interception and just now got it TODAY in the 12th game of the year.

Jason Allen is making more plays, and you make more plays by being more instinctive on where to be, how to get there, and how to seal the deal.


But hey, he doesn't look nearly as bad as he did last year...for a guy who is playing 50% of CB2 snaps. LOL.
The part bolded is a funny argument for either Jackson or Allen.
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The second-year cornerback followed up a brilliant game in Jacksonville with another Sunday against Atlanta, causing cornerback Johnathan Joseph to gloat.

“I told y’all he was getting better every week,” he said.

Jackson was credited with two passes defensed and three tackles, none bigger or louder than his crushing blow on Roddy White in the third quarter. It was a 15-yard gain, but Jackson leveled White, and the hit drew a flag at first, presumably for helmet-to-helmet contact. But officials picked it up after it was agreed that Jackson led with his shoulder.

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Falcons head coach Mike Smith during his interview with the Atlanta media

http://www.atlantafalcons.com/2011/1...-interview-70/

On Texans CB Johnathan Joseph:
“Done a very nice job at the corner position. He was a free agent acquisition during the offseason. Very talented player. Again, very integral in the success that they’ve had on defense.”

On Texans CB Kareem Jackson:
“Kareem Jackson, the other corner, is playing well. That’s a very solid defense and their record indicates. They’re 8-3, best record in the AFC. It’ll be fun going down there and competing against them.”
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Transcript: Matt Ryan Locker Room Interview
By: Jay Adams | November 30th, 2011

On the Texans defense:
“When you turn on the tape, it doesn’t surprise you. You see really good effort across the board, front seven and in the secondary. They’re doing a great job of stopping the run and they’re really effective getting after the passer. I think they’re second in the League in sacks. So it’s a good defense, top to bottom.”

On what sets the Texans defense apart from a typical 3-4 defense:
“Typically, from the defensive line in a 3-4, you see two-gap guys that kind of stay at the line of scrimmage and don’t get a ton on penetration. But this defense, they really do. They get a lot of penetration. (Defensive Coordinator Wade Phillips) Wade, he’s been in that system a long time. He’s got a great feel for calling things at the right time and putting his guys in a good position to make plays. They’re doing a great job.”

On Texans LB Brian Cushing and how active he is in both the run and pass defense:
“He’s very active. Very good player. Somebody we’re going to have to be aware of where he’s at in both the run game and the pass game. He looks like, on tape, he’s an emotional leader for that defense. He does a great job of rallying those guys and I’ve been very impressed with him.”

On Texans S Danieal Manning and S Glover Quin:
“Safeties are strong. Manning, we’ve seen a little bit in his days with Chicago, so familiar with him. But all-in-all, it’s a very good defense. They do a great job. Their safeties do a great job in coming up and supporting the run, but also in coverage. They’re both talented guys that can cover in man coverage, so they make it difficult on an offense because they can do so many different things.”

On Texans CB Kareem Jackson:
“I’ll have to get (QB John Parker Wilson) J.P.’s scouting report. I think both those guys, really both their corners are playing very well. They put them on islands in their quarters coverage, where they allow their safeties to come up and support the run and those guys have done a great job.”
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Houston Texans cornerback Kareem Jackson breaks up a pass intended for Atlanta Falcons wide receiver Julio Jones on the final play Sunday in Houston. The Texans won 17-10.

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I took screen shots of the last play, but I will wait to hopefully get a high-res version of the game to show it better.

Julio put a hand (very lightly) on KJ to get first jump and prevent KJ from doing same.

KJ played it well; he put his right hand between Julio's arms, waiting for the receiver to come down with the ball.
KJ then had his fingertips underneath the ball (yes, his fingers touched the ball) trying to poke at it.
He then hook his hand around Julio's left arm, near the elbow, to pull it down.

Originally, Julio had both hands on the ball. When Julio started to come down, his left arm hit KJ's hand, between the wrist and the palm.

All of KJ's actions definitely seperate them hands from the ball.
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I took screen shots of the last play, but I will wait to hopefully get a high-res version of the game to show it better.

Julio put a hand (very lightly) on KJ to get first jump and prevent KJ from doing same.

KJ played it well; he put his right hand between Julio's arms, waiting for the receiver to come down with the ball.
KJ then had his fingertips underneath the ball (yes, his fingers touched the ball) trying to poke at it.
He then hook his hand around Julio's left arm, near the elbow, to pull it down.

Originally, Julio had both hands on the ball. When Julio started to come down, his left arm hit KJ's hand, between the wrist and the palm.

All of KJ's actions definitely seperate them hands from the ball.
Outstanding work. Looking forward to seeing more screen shots.
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I think that Kareem Jackson has played much better this season and he isn't getting burnt in coverage all the time. Look Julio Jones is a freak athlete at the WR position and at 6'3" 215 pounds vs. Kareem Jackson 5'11" 190 frame that is a like a point guard trying to play man defense on a small forward in the low post the small forward should get 80% of the rebounds. With that said the kid did really well yesterday and I am very happy with his improvement the real problem is that our Safety play is very very suspect they are out of place way to much.
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Transcript: Matt Ryan Locker Room Interview
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On what sets the Texans defense apart from a typical 3-4 defense:
“Typically, from the defensive line in a 3-4, you see two-gap guys that kind of stay at the line of scrimmage and don’t get a ton on penetration. But this defense, they really do. They get a lot of penetration. (Defensive Coordinator Wade Phillips) Wade, he’s been in that system a long time. He’s got a great feel for calling things at the right time and putting his guys in a good position to make plays. They’re doing a great job.”
Tony Gonzales & Hugh Douglas was killing us over the middle in the first half. At least on their scoring drive. That's what happens, generally, when you blitz your LBs & leave the middle of the field open.

Later, especially in the 4th Qtr, most of the pressure came from 4 guys, with Brooks Reed dropping in coverage a lot.

That's what I needed to see. The Atlanta Falcons offense has only given up 22 sacks this year, that's pretty good (11th). We didn't record a sack, but I'm sure Ryan knew we were there.

Great job by Wade, the DL & the secondary..... great job by the defense all the way around.

10 points.


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lol... KJ = the new Chris Meyers..
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lol... KJ = the new Chris Meyers..
You have to admit .... they both had horrible seasons when they were being complained about heavily ..... If KJ can make the type of turnaround that Myers I'll be a happy fan.
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I'm not going to say the guy stinks.

I just don't think he's progressed as much as he's being credited for around here.

There's a reason why KJ and JA are splitting time, and I think it's to help bring KJ along while giving Jason Allen the chance to give KJ a mental break every now and then, to slow down KJ's brain and not flood him with having to cover a guy the whole game.

It's coddling, but you know what??? It might just end up working out. Offenses can't just dial up an entire game's worth of plays that target Kareem Jackson because Kareem Jackson is not always out there to be matched up with.
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It's coddling, but you know what??? It might just end up working out. Offenses can't just dial up an entire game's worth of plays that target Kareem Jackson because Kareem Jackson is not always out there to be matched up with.
What do you mean it might work out? We have the #1 defense and the best record in the AFC. It has worked out.
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You have to admit .... they both had horrible seasons when they were being complained about heavily ..... If KJ can make the type of turnaround that Myers I'll be a happy fan.
Even with Myers turnaround he still gets beat and sometimes badly. But that doesn't mean we dig up yet another thread on him.

KJ is playing pretty consistently good for us right now he's getting better the last part of his game is he has to get better about realizing when the ball is in the air and make a better play on it. His tackling is fantastics, he's better in his coverage skills. He's what I would consider an average CB at this point, a decent #2.

I don't know why people expect us to have two #1 CB's on the field that can shutdown both halves. I still think people have very high expectations still that our defense is #1. Most of us would have been happy with a 15th ranked defense.
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Even with Myers turnaround he still gets beat and sometimes badly. But that doesn't mean we dig up yet another thread on him.
Myers is actually the #1 center in the NFL based on blocking metrics .... by a considerable margin ..... Go figure.


This OL is probably the leagues best UNIT.

Our defense is arguably the leagues best UNIT ..... KJ is a part of that
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What do you mean it might work out? We have the #1 defense and the best record in the AFC. It has worked out.
I'm talking about the first round draft pick, Kareem Jackson. I'm talking about whether he can reach this almost unreachable status of being a CB1 that only 4 people in the whole NFL can seemingly achieve.

I have questions after reading all these responses:

1. Why is it that having the #1 defense means that Kareem Jackson is playing better than he did last season? Couldn't the inverse be true? Couldn't it be that the defense as a whole is playing better and yet Kareem is staying in a marginal holding pattern while others around him succeed and produce more, consistently, than he does?

2. Why is it unfair to have CB1 expectations of him? Is it just because it's impossible to have TWO exceptional CBs on the field? Did I miss the NFL rule that says a team can only have ONE outstanding top-flight CB and the CB2 must be someone of lesser talent than the CB1???

All of it feels very "charitable cause" philanthropy going on. We're #1, so Kareem Jackson gets a pass and gets graded generously as a side benefit of our d-coord and the other 10 guys surrounding KJ.

Come on guys, the guy is not even playing every snap out there. He's splitting time with Jason Allen. Doesn't that signal that he's being coddled, still, that he's not even entrusted to be the main CB2 the vast majority of the game?

I'm fine with him splitting snaps 50-50 with Allen, I really am. If that's what it takes to minimize his impact on the games, then so be it. It's as close to a win-win as we can get.
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I'm talking about the first round draft pick, Kareem Jackson. I'm talking about whether he can reach this almost unreachable status of being a CB1 that only 4 people in the whole NFL can seemingly achieve.

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2. Why is it unfair to have CB1 expectations of him? Is it just because it's impossible to have TWO exceptional CBs on the field? Did I miss the NFL rule that says a team can only have ONE outstanding top-flight CB and the CB2 must be someone of lesser talent than the CB1???
I think your first paragraph answers the following question ...... There are only a few lockdown corners in the NFL ..... and even they get beat. Look at how the Bills attacked Revis last week (Despite the Jets finding a way to win).
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The biggest winner and beneficiary of Wade Phillips and this year's turnaround is none other than Kareem Jackson.

Granted, he got stuck on a bad defense and was pretty much shocked and awe'd all last season. So maybe this is a year of stuff balancing itself out.

That's why I said, "This might work out after all," because I want to see him playing solidly and in position to make plays AND make those plays as a full-time CB2 and not splitting snaps 50-50 next season.

I think Wade is making 2011 KJ's rookie season, with Jason Allen out there to lighten the load and give KJ a chance to sit and watch on 50% of the plays. It's a great idea, actually. It's why I said "It might work out after all."

But continue to thump your chests and act like I don't know we have the #1 defense and that Kareem in in that club, too. Carry on....
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Myers is actually the #1 center in the NFL based on blocking metrics .... by a considerable margin ..... Go figure.


This OL is probably the leagues best UNIT.

Our defense is arguably the leagues best UNIT ..... KJ is a part of that
And yesterday our OL didn't really have their best game either. 3 false starts are the absolutely worst time, one of the worst hits on a QB I've seen all year, with just a complete whiff by Eric Winston.. It wasn't pretty for them at all yesterday, but we won..
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