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Old 12-17-2011   #301
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Saban has a history of his guys going the full 4 years. It's rare when they don't. I'd imagine he'd say the same about any of his players.
Huh? Saban has had plenty of his players leave early. Dareus, Ingram, and Julio Jones from the 2011 draft alone.

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We drafted Kj and continued to pursue FA corners. We didn't find any that were better than what we had. Leigh Bodden may have been the exception, but he didn't want to come here.

Kj was not drafted & expected to start right away. We failed to secure a veteran fA & had to play the hand we were dealt.
You've got it backwards. Free agency happens prior to the draft. The Texans failed to pickup a vet CB in free agency and drafted Jackson to start right away. Hence the "most NFL ready" comments by Smithiak. Jackson was a starter from the first minicamp.
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You've got it backwards. Free agency happens prior to the draft. The Texans failed to pickup a vet CB in free agency and drafted Jackson to start right away. Hence the "most NFL ready" comments by Smithiak. Jackson was a starter from the first minicamp.
FA starts before the draft, it doesn't end at the draft. If I remember, we were still looking at CBs throughout that off-season & even through that season, that's how we ended up with Pahman (?or whatever his name was) & Allen.

"most NFL ready" I took as coach speak.... we were going to make the best of the situation we were in.
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I had to work, haven't watched the game, how did Kj do today?
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I had to work, haven't watched the game, how did Kj do today?

I only saw him thrown at a couple times at the most and he had solid coverage all game. Joseph was attacked for the 2nd straight game. If it wasn't against AJ Green and Steve Smith then I'd be worried.
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Surely someone has a Kareem Jackson gripe.
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Surely someone has a Kareem Jackson gripe.
I do. It was KJ's fault his man wasn't targetted and that Joseph was targeted all day. If he had done a worse job, we could have simply bitched at him.
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I do. It was KJ's fault his man wasn't targetted and that Joseph was targeted all day. If he had done a worse job, we could have simply bitched at him.
Freak'n selfish mofo..... needs to learn to take one for the team.
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yep thats about all i have to say as well
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Default Re: When do we end the Kareem experiment?

Personally, I think we need Wade Phillips.

That Herring guy doesn't know what he's looking at. He had Jason Allen out there getting picked on by Dan O & Wayne. When Kj finally got in the game, it looked like Reggie Wayne disappeared, until that last drive.

Yeah, that last drive is the only one that counted, but Allen showed he was not up to the task all night long.

Garcia caught a ball on Kj, for a short gain. Reggie Wayne caught the one skinny post that put them on our 30 (or something) & Wayne caught that TD on Kj...... that was the same thing Kj did vs Roddy White on that "game winning save" this time, Wayne made the catch.

If you have the ability, go back & watch the series Kj was in & see how many times the ball went to Kj's man. Orlovsky much rather throw on Jjo.

I'm not saying Kj is better than Jjo. But Orlovsky went away from Wayne when Kj was in the game. He targeted Wayne when Allen was in the game.

Kj gave up that final touchdown on the drive our defense gave up 50 yards on penalties alone.
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Personally, I think we need Wade Phillips.

That Herring guy doesn't know what he's looking at. He had Jason Allen out there getting picked on by Dan O & Wayne. When Kj finally got in the game, it looked like Reggie Wayne disappeared, until that last drive.

Yeah, that last drive is the only one that counted, but Allen showed he was not up to the task all night long.

Garcon caught a ball on Kj, for a short gain. Reggie Wayne caught the one skinny post that put them on our 30 (or something) & Wayne caught that TD on Kj...... that was the same thing Kj did vs Roddy White on that "game winning save" this time, Wayne made the catch.

If you have the ability, go back & watch the series Kj was in & see how many times the ball went to Kj's man. Orlovsky much rather throw on Jjo.

I'm not saying Kj is better than Jjo. But Orlovsky went away from Wayne when Kj was in the game. He targeted Wayne when Allen was in the game.

Kj gave up that final touchdown on the drive our defense gave up 50 yards on penalties alone.
That skinny post was on Demps.
Texans were in 1/4 on that side with Cushing and McCain in underneath zone.
The slot receiver (Collie) squat short of the first down marker (basically, he was already double-teamed by Cushing and McCain).
Demps inexplicably stepped down right behind Cushing.
That's definitely a poor play by Demps (bone-head).

To put this game on KJ is the job of the haters; they are doing their job well.
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That skinny post was on Demps.
Texans were in 1/4 on that side with Cushing and McCain in underneath zone.
The slot receiver (Collie) squat short of the first down marker (basically, he was already double-teamed by Cushing and McCain).
Demps inexplicably stepped down right behind Cushing.
That's definitely a poor play by Demps (bone-head).

To put this game on KJ is the job of the haters; they are doing their job well.
why was Demps even playing deep....you have Manning and Quin and yet neither were there deep to protect us.....
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That skinny post was on Demps.
Texans were in 1/4 on that side with Cushing and McCain in underneath zone.
The slot receiver (Collie) squat short of the first down marker (basically, he was already double-teamed by Cushing and McCain).
Demps inexplicably stepped down right behind Cushing.
That's definitely a poor play by Demps (bone-head).

To put this game on KJ is the job of the haters; they are doing their job well.
oh lord here we go again, same as last year, it is on the safties and not on KJ, that is still KJs man, the safety is for HELP over the top. Get outta here with that its on the safties and not KJ bull shit. cause according to you the safties are what is always saving allen, and BTW allen gave up 3 passes, KJ gave up 4, and the 2 biggest of the game on the last drive.
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On the game winning TD, Kareem never turned his head to find the ball.



I've never seen him do that before. /sarcasm



So instead of turning his head to find and play the ball, he instead chose to flail blindly, hoping to get lucky (like he did against the Bucs).

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On the game winning TD, Kareem never turned his head to find the ball.



I've never seen him do that before. /sarcasm



So instead of turning his head to find and play the ball, he instead chose to flail blindly, hoping to get lucky (like he did against the Bucs).

I'm not getting into the whole Kareem thing.

But I wonder if Joseph would have been covering Wayne more if Wade was on the sidelines. If this was the case, it just goes to show you that a good coach puts his players in the best position to make plays.

Of course Wayne is going to out jump Kareem. The knock on Kareem is that he doesn't play the ball as much as he should (AKA, Not looking at it in the air) and Joseph does the exact opposite.

Did JJ defend on Wayne the first game? Why was it different this time? Did we feel that Garcon was more of a threat? That guy has the dropsies...
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That skinny post was on Demps.
Texans were in 1/4 on that side with Cushing and McCain in underneath zone.
The slot receiver (Collie) squat short of the first down marker (basically, he was already double-teamed by Cushing and McCain).
Demps inexplicably stepped down right behind Cushing.
That's definitely a poor play by Demps (bone-head).

To put this game on KJ is the job of the haters; they are doing their job well.
I here what you're saying. But Kj was right there. Wayne plucks the ball high in the air. Kj is there to make a play & doesn't.

I here what you're saying I agree; somewhat...

But the play was there for him & he didn't make it.
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I here what you're saying. But Kj was right there. Wayne plucks the ball high in the air. Kj is there to make a play & doesn't.

I here what you're saying I agree; somewhat...

But the play was there for him & he didn't make it.
All I was saying was that you can't put the game on one play.

I didn't defend KJ on that play even though he wasn't bad at all.
He was right there. He played the same technique that we've seen him defending that fade route (many times; even going back to last year against Hakeem Nicks,)
It's what the coaches think is most comfortable for him against that route (at this time).

JJo was nowhere near the receiver just a couple of plays earlier; that could have been an uncontested TD.
Quin was all over the receiver for that PI; that could have been a TD just the same.

KJ just missed the ball, but his hand was right in there.
It was the most contested play out of the three!
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How many yrs does KJ have to get burned by Wayne before Gary realizes that KJ cant cover him?

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