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Old 12-04-2011   #1
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Left the Texans game, with 8 seconds left to show commercials and a pre-game for the Cowboys game..

Sucks living here at times.
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Left the Texans game, with 8 seconds left to show commercials and a pre-game for the Cowboys game..

Sucks living here at times.
Same effin' thing here in Austin. Wow.
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both tv and radio went off...im pissed at radio station mostly cause they are the supposed home of the Texans.
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both tv and radio went off...im pissed at radio station mostly cause they are the supposed home of the Texans.
And they can't pull the "NFL Rules" card.
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Blow up fax facebook (this is the Austin one, but still...)

https://www.facebook.com/myfoxaustin
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Nice...make sure to hit the Austin facebook too!
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Saw your hit on the Austin Fox Facebook.....kudos!!!
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Yeah, I'm piling on there too and on the Austin affiliate as well.

These affiliates are making it a lot worse by not simply admitting they made a business decision to cut to the Cowboys at 3:10 -- a decision that has to be made ahead of time and can't be changed during the game -- and that it turned out to be a bad decision.

Once they made that decision, NFL rules *do* require switching over at 3:10 -- but these affiliates are acting like they never had the choice to opt into the "mandatory pullout".
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We got pulled in Jerry's world, but at least I caught the end on the RedZone.
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Hey, any chance you can make this visible to Bob McNair? Not sure if that is possible. I am curious to hear his reaction....I would think he would want to "build the brand" outside of Houston. IMO he should publicly say something.

Also, is there any chance these stations violated any NFL rules and can be fined?
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Also, is there any chance these stations violated any NFL rules and can be fined?
I don't think so, since neither Austin nor San Antonio are "secondary" markets of either Houston or Dallas according to the NFL's definition (neither have any of their viewing audience within 75 miles of the home stadium). Thus they were free to elect the "mandatory pullout" ahead of time, to be treated as if they were a secondary market. But the NFL didn't force that -- they chose it, as they always have in doubleheaders when the Cowboys are the late game.

So these affiliates, as far as I can tell, are responsible for the switchover because they requested it ahead of time.

But the NFL's rule about "mandatory" pullout is also stupid. It doesn't give the network or the affiliates the ability to change their minds if the game situations make that the right decision for viewers. As it is? If you do NOT elect mandatory pullout, you risk a game which is 45-7 halfway into the 4th quarter at 3:10 and you're forced to watch it to conclusion when the late game is kicking off. If you DO elect it, you run the risk of what happened yesterday.

It's really stupid that the NFL apparently doesn't let the affiliates say, "you know what? We opted to pull out at 3:10, but there's no way we're leaving this game prematurely. We now elect to stay with it to the end." And they can't say "Yeah, we elected to stay with this game to the end, but it's a blowout and the late games are about to kick off. We're switching over now."

Still, while there are some dumb NFL rules that contributed to this fiasco, ultimately the affiliates which are not secondary markets for Dallas CHOSE the pullout ahead of time, so they do bear some responsibility. And to me, at this point, their refusal to accept that responsibility is a worse offense than what happened at 3:10 yesterday.
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I don't think so, since neither Austin nor San Antonio are "secondary" markets of either Houston or Dallas according to the NFL's definition (neither have any of their viewing audience within 75 miles of the home stadium). Thus they were free to elect the "mandatory pullout" ahead of time, to be treated as if they were a secondary market. But the NFL didn't force that -- they chose it, as they always have in doubleheaders when the Cowboys are the late game.

So these affiliates, as far as I can tell, are responsible for the switchover because they requested it ahead of time.

But the NFL's rule about "mandatory" pullout is also stupid. It doesn't give the network or the affiliates the ability to change their minds if the game situations make that the right decision for viewers. As it is? If you do NOT elect mandatory pullout, you risk a game which is 45-7 halfway into the 4th quarter at 3:10 and you're forced to watch it to conclusion when the late game is kicking off. If you DO elect it, you run the risk of what happened yesterday.

It's really stupid that the NFL apparently doesn't let the affiliates say, "you know what? We opted to pull out at 3:10, but there's no way we're leaving this game prematurely. We now elect to stay with it to the end." And they can't say "Yeah, we elected to stay with this game to the end, but it's a blowout and the late games are about to kick off. We're switching over now."

Still, while there are some dumb NFL rules that contributed to this fiasco, ultimately the affiliates which are not secondary markets for Dallas CHOSE the pullout ahead of time, so they do bear some responsibility. And to me, at this point, their refusal to accept that responsibility is a worse offense than what happened at 3:10 yesterday.
^^THIS (well, IDK if I can say *worse* offense....but it is bad....)

They are making this shit storm sooooooooooooo much worse by playing innocent onlooker.... I am still just so dumbfounded that this actually happened. I literally cannot believe what I saw with my own eyes...
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LMAO....they are STILL getting hammered and now this seems to be their only response.....

"To contact the FOX network directly call (310) 369-9111 or email askfox@fox.com"

How lame....clearly being beaten to a pulp and still clinging to their BS excuse that holds no water.
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I don't think so, since neither Austin nor San Antonio are "secondary" markets of either Houston or Dallas according to the NFL's definition (neither have any of their viewing audience within 75 miles of the home stadium). Thus they were free to elect the "mandatory pullout" ahead of time, to be treated as if they were a secondary market. But the NFL didn't force that -- they chose it, as they always have in doubleheaders when the Cowboys are the late game.

So these affiliates, as far as I can tell, are responsible for the switchover because they requested it ahead of time.

But the NFL's rule about "mandatory" pullout is also stupid. It doesn't give the network or the affiliates the ability to change their minds if the game situations make that the right decision for viewers. As it is? If you do NOT elect mandatory pullout, you risk a game which is 45-7 halfway into the 4th quarter at 3:10 and you're forced to watch it to conclusion when the late game is kicking off. If you DO elect it, you run the risk of what happened yesterday.

It's really stupid that the NFL apparently doesn't let the affiliates say, "you know what? We opted to pull out at 3:10, but there's no way we're leaving this game prematurely. We now elect to stay with it to the end." And they can't say"Yeah, we elected to stay with this game to the end, but it's a blowout and the late games are about to kick off. We're switching over now."

Still, while there are some dumb NFL rules that contributed to this fiasco, ultimately the affiliates which are not secondary markets for Dallas CHOSE the pullout ahead of time, so they do bear some responsibility. And to me, at this point, their refusal to accept that responsibility is a worse offense than what happened at 3:10 yesterday.
Oh yes they can. When the Texas went 2-14, there were a couple blowout games her in Central Texas that got pulled during the game to go some other AFC game. There was even a week or two where they didn't show the Texans or the Titans when the Texans were playing.
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Oh yes they can. When the Texas went 2-14, there were several blowout games her in Central Texas that got pulled during the game to go some other AFC game.
Yeah, that's why I've been hoping the Titans would get blown out while KIRO's busy with Locker and Hasselbeck's jocks.

May be the 1st time I've seen a Steelers game replaced with 2 mediocre teams not named the Seahawks or Raiders.
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Oh yes they can. When the Texas went 2-14, there were a couple blowout games her in Central Texas that got pulled during the game to go some other AFC game. There was even a weak or two where they didn't show the Texans or the Titans when the Texans were playing.
Hmm. Maybe the pullout is mandatory, but staying with a bad game isn't?
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Here's the answer. A national Fox decision:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...n-san-antonio/
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San Antonio talk radio was talking about it was because the Cowboys are a bigger draw (and they are Cowboy fans), but they said it was still wrong..that they should have stayed the final 8 seconds instead of commerical, and if it went to OT then you break away, in time for the kickoff. Nice to hear some Cowboy fans siding with us on this one.
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Mike Meltser on 610 is about to discuss this subject in a few minutes after the break....FYI
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