A.J. needs to really step it up.

[Texanator]

I know nobody wants to point out the obvious, but we really need Dre to step it up if we are going to do anything with any of the QB choices left to us.
I noticed in the game vs. the Jags that his routes were nothing more then haphazard attempts at mediocrity. Granted the plays called were mostly either an option or a dump or a run most of the time. But watching him half way shuffle off the line will not fool anybody. And we need him to at least cast that thought that we might actually pass the ball.
We have a great running game but it will dwindle quickly if every team out there knows it's a run, run, run, kick set of downs.

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by Texanator

I know nobody wants to point out the obvious, but we really need Dre to step it up if we are going to do anything with any of the QB choices left to us.
I noticed in the game vs. the Jags that his routes were nothing more then haphazard attempts at mediocrity. Granted the plays called were mostly either an option or a dump or a run most of the time. But watching him half way shuffle off the line will not fool anybody. And we need him to at least cast that thought that we might actually pass the ball.
We have a great running game but it will dwindle quickly if every team out there knows it's a run, run, run, kick set of downs.

ya think that perhaps he had what amounts to 3rd string QB's throwing to him? Kubiak doesn't make Leinart check down pards. I didn't notice any lack of hustle from Andre either. Unless you were in Jacksonville, how did you see his routes? I don't get that TV feed at my house.

[DeMarCushPoll]

Originally Posted by Texanator

I know nobody wants to point out the obvious, but we really need Dre to step it up if we are going to do anything with any of the QB choices left to us.
I noticed in the game vs. the Jags that his routes were nothing more then haphazard attempts at mediocrity. Granted the plays called were mostly either an option or a dump or a run most of the time. But watching him half way shuffle off the line will not fool anybody. And we need him to at least cast that thought that we might actually pass the ball.
We have a great running game but it will dwindle quickly if every team out there knows it's a run, run, run, kick set of downs.

AJ, "haphazard attempts at mediocrity" ??? Yeah I don't think so... moving on!

[ziggy29]

Originally Posted by Texanator

I noticed in the game vs. the Jags that his routes were nothing more then haphazard attempts at mediocrity. Granted the plays called were mostly either an option or a dump or a run most of the time. But watching him half way shuffle off the line will not fool anybody. And we need him to at least cast that thought that we might actually pass the ball.
We have a great running game but it will dwindle quickly if every team out there knows it's a run, run, run, kick set of downs.

I guess I'd simply counter by saying that Kubiak wasn't really even *trying* to fool anyone on the Jax defense, especially in the second half. He really made no pretense of going downfield, did nothing to make the defense think they were going to ever go stretch the field, and didn't seem to care if the Jags knew it. He was "all in" on his defense holding the lead. The players simply reflected that on offense. AJ (or anyone else) won't "fool the defense" if the defense knows it's going to be a run anyway.

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by ziggy29

I guess I'd simply counter by saying that Kubiak wasn't really even *trying* to fool anyone on the Jax defense, especially in the second half. He really made no pretense of going downfield, did nothing to make the defense think they were going to ever go stretch the field, and didn't seem to care if the Jags knew it. He was "all in" on his defense holding the lead. The players simply reflected that on offense. AJ (or anyone else) won't "fool the defense" if the defense knows it's going to be a run anyway.

I'll add that Kubiak said he changed how he called the game to protect his only qb. He didn't take any chances and didn't want Yates to take any hits since he was the last qb. awful thread...this will be my last post.

[BullNation4Life]

Originally Posted by Texanator

I know nobody wants to point out the obvious, but we really need Dre to step it up if we are going to do anything with any of the QB choices left to us.
I noticed in the game vs. the Jags that his routes were nothing more then haphazard attempts at mediocrity. Granted the plays called were mostly either an option or a dump or a run most of the time. But watching him half way shuffle off the line will not fool anybody. And we need him to at least cast that thought that we might actually pass the ball.
We have a great running game but it will dwindle quickly if every team out there knows it's a run, run, run, kick set of downs.

O.....M....G....

You're one of those guys that wants little league coaches to run the score up on 6 yr old baseball game , aren't you...

Are you freaking kidding me? The dude has been off a football field and hasn't been able to run full speed in over a freaking month. He was not in complete football shape, even before he went down. Kubiak said he was gassed and said he left AJ out there too long for being off for so long...

Andre Johnson and mediocrity are two words that should NEVER be put in the same sentence...Pathetic

[ziggy29]

Originally Posted by Vinny

Kubiak said he changed how he called the game to protect his only qb. He didn't take any chances and didn't want Yates to take any hits since he was the last qb.

Agreed -- hence my point. There is little a WR can do to "keep the defense honest" if it's very clear that the coaches aren't going to call a downfield play. Having said that, with AJ just coming off an injury, why would you have him constantly running full sprints on every snap, risking a re-aggravation of his hammy, when it's still not going to fool the defense into thinking you're going to pass?

[False Start]

Wow... so you're saying AJ was slacking off? That is the last thing he would do. Dre is a baller, and is the last person that you would see mailing it in.

[ziggy29]

Originally Posted by False Start

Wow... so you're saying AJ was slacking off? That is the last thing he would do. Dre is a baller, and is the last person that you would see mailing it in.

And if he wasn't busting his hump on every play, under the circumstances of the second half, it would not surprise me one bit if the coaching staff told AJ to dial it back a bit. They weren't going to be calling many plays downfield to him and they didn't care if the Jax defense knew it, so why risk re-injuring the hammy by going 100% on every play?

[Maddict5]

he was probably too busy thinking of ways to get away without paying tips at restaurants to concentrate on his routes

[Texcore]

Its not inconceivable to think that he has rust and his legs are not where they are supposed to be.

But I agree with the premise of the thread that he needs to be that leader we need him to be. Step up on the field and on the sidelines as well.

[False Start]

Originally Posted by ziggy29

And if he wasn't busting his hump on every play, under the circumstances of the second half, it would not surprise me one bit if the coaching staff told AJ to dial it back a bit. They weren't going to be calling many plays downfield to him and they didn't care if the Jax defense knew it, so why risk re-injuring the hammy by going 100% on every play?

Oh yeah, I wouldn't doubt that. But to say he was dogging it on his own is just kind of hard to believe.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by Vinny

I'll add that Kubiak said he changed how he called the game to protect his only qb. He didn't take any chances and didn't want Yates to take any hits since he was the last qb. awful thread...this will be my last post.

I made the same statement in another thread adding that OD was the backup to the backup backup .... OD actually took snaps from under center after halftime.

Originally Posted by False Start

Oh yeah, I wouldn't doubt that. But to say he was dogging it on his own is just kind of hard to believe.

AJ dogging it is like Santa Clause taking a nap .... It'll never happen.

[False Start]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

AJ dogging it is like Santa Clause taking a nap .... It'll never happen.

Or like saying you like Obama...

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by False Start

Or like saying you like Obama...

{////////> Obama

^^^ Thats a screw

[Double Barrel]

Originally Posted by Texanator

I know nobody wants to point out the obvious, but we really need Dre to step it up if we are going to do anything with any of the QB choices left to us.
I noticed in the game vs. the Jags that his routes were nothing more then haphazard attempts at mediocrity. Granted the plays called were mostly either an option or a dump or a run most of the time. But watching him half way shuffle off the line will not fool anybody. And we need him to at least cast that thought that we might actually pass the ball.
We have a great running game but it will dwindle quickly if every team out there knows it's a run, run, run, kick set of downs.

[HOU-TEX]

Unfortunately, there has been a lot of these type threads lately. *sigh*

[Mr. Texan]

ANDRE Y U NO HAVE GOOD QB THROWING TO U?

[False Start]

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

Unfortunately, there has been a lot of these type threads lately. *sigh*

Thats what happens when the bandwagon starts to fill up.

[burro]

I agree that every leader on this team needs to step up and put things into perspective for those who aren't mentally prepared to be entering the playoffs.

I disagree that the word "mediocrity" belongs in any sentence in which Andre Johnson is the subject.