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Old 11-28-2011   #21
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Nice to know we are #1 after week 12. I am really concerned about Atlanta game as their D is #2 against run and we got 3rd string QB. Their D against pass is #25 but again, inexperience QB on our side makes a little difficult to take an advantage of the situation. Hope, Kubiak can come up with winning plan that Yates be able to handle.

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If it was me calling plays, everytime I see the box stacked with 1 on 1.. I'm looking at Dunta Robinson. I've watched a few Atlanta games in the past weeks and 23 is OVERPAID.
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If it was me calling plays, everytime I see the box stacked with 1 on 1.. I'm looking at Dunta Robinson. I've watched a few Atlanta games in the past weeks and 23 is OVERPAID.
A little off topic.

I was watching the Cowboys this Thanksgiving. The Cowboy receivers were having a field day against Miami's corners. But Romo kept putting the ball where the Corners had better position.


Same thing when I watched Palko last night. He started the game rough, three INTs in back to back possessions. I think it was three back to back to back pass attempts. The receivers were open, ball was just in the wrong place. The last one (to seal the game) Bowe was open.... Palko made it look as though he thought Bowe was breaking his pattern & running a go route when (I think) he was just saying, "I'm open"
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IŽve got a question: if we end up with the same record as the Titans - what is the tiebreaker if we split the two head to head games?
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IŽve got a question: if we end up with the same record as the Titans - what is the tiebreaker if we split the two head to head games?
Division record. Right now we are 4-0. They are 1-2. So essentially, we have a 3 game lead in the division with 5 games left.
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IŽve got a question: if we end up with the same record as the Titans - what is the tiebreaker if we split the two head to head games?
It's either division or conference games, both of which we would still win.
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TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION
If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

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1.Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
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3.Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
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8.Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
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Division record. Right now we are 4-0. They are 1-2. So essentially, we have a 3 game lead in the division with 5 games left.
That's right, as long as we beat either Indy or Tennessee, we'll finish with only one loss in the division & the Tie breaker over the Titans.

So we could possibly go into Jan 4 at 10-5 the Titans could be 9-6. We could lose that game (as long as we beat Indy) & still win the division.
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Makes me kinda hope we lose that one just to tick them off.
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Makes me kinda hope we lose that one just to tick them off.
Lose at home to the Titans?

I don't think that would tick Bud off, he'll probably throw a parade.

I'd rather whup his ass with our Scout team.
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I've been looking at our standings, and the tie breaking procedures and think we're sitting pretty good.

Here's where we're at today and in order of the tie breakers:
Overall Record: Texans (8-3) : Titans (6-5)
Head-to-Head: Texans (1-0) : Titans (0-1)
Division Record: Texans (4-0) : Titans (1-2)
Common Games: Texans (6-2) : Titans (5-4)
Conference Games: Texans (7-2) : Titans (4-4)

If we beat Tennessee and win only one other game (Atlanta, Cincinnati, Carolina or Indianapolis) we're guaranteed to go to the playoffs. If we go 6-0 in our division, just having to beat Indy and Tennessee we're guaranteed. That would be awesome.

Worst Case: We lose out and go 8-8. We'd still make the playoffs if the Titans go 1-3 in their other games.

Key games: All of them!

Tennessee has 3 division games remaining, one against each team. New Orleans counts as a common opponent. Buffalo counts as a conference opponent.

Every game the Texans have left is a common opponent.
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Thanks guys! Playoffs seem very realistic now, even with a rookie 5th round pick at QB. IŽd expect us to win anywhere between 1 and 3 games of the remaining schedule. It sure would be nice to have double digits wins at the end of the season...

Then look for Yates to explode in the playoffs and be the next fairytale QB - I can dream right? It seems that`s all thereŽs left to do as a Texans fan...
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If it was me calling plays, everytime I see the box stacked with 1 on 1.. I'm looking at Dunta Robinson. I've watched a few Atlanta games in the past weeks and 23 is OVERPAID.
Dunta may be overpaid but aint the Texans' money. Sure glad we have J Jo that gets paid similar(I think) to Dunta but wwwaaaayyyy better CB. Anyway, J Jo worth every penny.

I hope, Kubiak is able to simplify the passing scheme for Yates to handle. If we can do this, we should be competitive against the rest of remaining schedule teams.

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Dunta may be overpaid but aint the Texans' money. Sure glad we have J Jo that gets paid similar(I think) to Dunta but wwwaaaayyyy better CB. Anyway, J Jo worth every penny.

I hope, Kubiak is able to simplify the passing scheme for Yates to handle. If we can do this, we should be competitive against the rest of remaining schedule teams.

Go Texans!!!
I think Yates knows the scheme well enough , its more a matter of timing than anything else. The reps he will get with the first team this week should help with that.

Case in point - The pass he hit OD in the facemask .... The pass was on the money but was a half second late giving the defender time to make a play on the ball.

Off topic but OD didnt have a drop all season - Did that go down as a drop or a pass defended by the defender ?!
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I think Yates knows the scheme well enough , its more a matter of timing than anything else. The reps he will get with the first team this week should help with that.
Just curious... how well, does Yates "know" our offense?

Really, as the third string QB, he's basically running the scout team. Which means he is "simulating" our weekly opponent. He's not being asked to go through our play-book, he's being asked to line up & go through a progression or hand the ball off in a system that has little to do with what we are doing.

He's not worried about checking, calling, or adjusting protection or blocking schemes. He's not being asked to put a receiver in motion to see how the defense reacts.

The last two weeks, if Leinart was getting extra snaps, Yates was still running the scout team, acting like Gabbert (so to speak).

This week may very well be the first time he has to take snaps in our system. I would imagine he goes to the regular QB meetings, study film with Matt & Matt, goes through the drills with Knapp.

But actually taking a snap in our offense, making his reads, & adjusting protection.... this may be the first time that he's been doing it.

I could be wrong, but think about it. Matt & Matt got the first & second team snaps. Yates ran the scout team.
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Just go 1-oh this week and who gives a sh*t? Keep the mantra, focus and make it happen. The Texans can do this. Proper coaching and game planning can put us in the #1 seed at the end of regulation. Keep the faith, peeps.
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Just curious... how well, does Yates "know" our offense?

Really, as the third string QB, he's basically running the scout team. Which means he is "simulating" our weekly opponent. He's not being asked to go through our play-book, he's being asked to line up & go through a progression or hand the ball off in a system that has little to do with what we are doing.

He's not worried about checking, calling, or adjusting protection or blocking schemes. He's not being asked to put a receiver in motion to see how the defense reacts.

The last two weeks, if Leinart was getting extra snaps, Yates was still running the scout team, acting like Gabbert (so to speak).

This week may very well be the first time he has to take snaps in our system. I would imagine he goes to the regular QB meetings, study film with Matt & Matt, goes through the drills with Knapp.

But actually taking a snap in our offense, making his reads, & adjusting protection.... this may be the first time that he's been doing it.

I could be wrong, but think about it. Matt & Matt got the first & second team snaps. Yates ran the scout team.
Being the scout team QB is one of the toughest jobs in the game of football.

Not only do you have to know your scheme but you have to learn parts of a different scheme every week.

The biggest difference with Yates running the scout team Vs the #1's is in the timing and feel he gets to develop with the recievers.

Im sure he knows the playbook inside out .... What it boils down to is how he goes thru his reads post snap , avoiding defenses attempts to confuse him into poor decisions.
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Being the scout team QB is one of the toughest jobs in the game of football.

Not only do you have to know your scheme but you have to learn parts of a different scheme every week.
The biggest difference with Yates running the scout team Vs the #1's is in the timing and feel he gets to develop with the recievers.

Im sure he knows the playbook inside out .... What it boils down to is how he goes thru his reads post snap , avoiding defenses attempts to confuse him into poor decisions.
Could this ability to decipher other team's O's help Yates read opposing D's coverages? That will be key to his success.
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I've been looking at our standings, and the tie breaking procedures and think we're sitting pretty good.

Here's where we're at today and in order of the tie breakers:
Overall Record: Texans (8-3) : Titans (6-5)
Head-to-Head: Texans (1-0) : Titans (0-1)
Division Record: Texans (4-0) : Titans (1-2)
Common Games: Texans (6-2) : Titans (5-4)
Conference Games: Texans (7-2) : Titans (4-4)

If we beat Tennessee and win only one other game (Atlanta, Cincinnati, Carolina or Indianapolis) we're guaranteed to go to the playoffs. If we go 6-0 in our division, just having to beat Indy and Tennessee we're guaranteed. That would be awesome.

Worst Case: We lose out and go 8-8. We'd still make the playoffs if the Titans go 1-3 in their other games.

Key games: All of them!

Tennessee has 3 division games remaining, one against each team. New Orleans counts as a common opponent. Buffalo counts as a conference opponent.

Every game the Texans have left is a common opponent.
Awesome post. You need to file this away somewhere.

Copy and paste the text of your post. Put it into a text document or Word document for when we need it again. I think a lot of people need to know the tie-breaking scenario each week, how it breaks down between Titans and Texans.
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Awesome post. You need to file this away somewhere.

Copy and paste the text of your post. Put it into a text document or Word document for when we need it again. I think a lot of people need to know the tie-breaking scenario each week, how it breaks down between Titans and Texans.
Naw , we dont need this information again .... Texans will go 5-0 to close out the season .... Tits are done. Stick a fork in them.
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