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Old 11-23-2011   #21
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Leinart could become Tom Brady, Jr. for all I care...but he can get hurt just like Schaub did. Poof, Leinart's gone. What do you do THEN?

Do you therefore go find Kellen Clemens-type street free agents??? No way, Jose.

Draft him, and draft early. He doesn't have to be Superman...he just needs to have the stuff Kubiak likes to see in his QBs.
We may already have the guy with Yates.
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Leinart could become Tom Brady, Jr. for all I care...but he can get hurt just like Schaub did. Poof, Leinart's gone. What do you do THEN?

Do you therefore go find Kellen Clemens-type street free agents??? No way, Jose.

Draft him, and draft early. He doesn't have to be Superman...he just needs to have the stuff Kubiak likes to see in his QBs.
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We may already have the guy with Yates.
Also, if Schaub doesn't come back 100%, he can still be a very good back-up since he already has "all the stuffs Kubiak likes to see in his QBs".
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Looks like they like TY Yates!?!
Yes , Gary really likes Yates potential and thinks he could eventually become a solid starter in the league.
The fact they didnt go after one of the veteran QB's available should tell you a whole lot about their belief in both Yates and Leinart.

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John Clayton said Clemens to be QB2, but I think it would be more likely that the report Mojoman posted (Stating Yates is QB2 and Clemens QB3) is more reliable.

Makes more sense, obviously, to have Yates as QB2 until Clemens grasps our own playcalls. The system is the same, but the terminology is different.

I think Clayton was saying Orton will make a bit over $2 million with whatever new team he signs with. I am assuming the salary cap played a bit of a factor in not pursuing Orton.

We've got a QB3 now, so let's hope Leinart handles the offense well enough AND that QB2 and QB3 do not have to hit the field unless it's garbage time.
Yates will be the #2 and Clemens likely the scout team QB which is what Yates has done thus far.

No way Clemens coms in and takes the #2 spot from Yates not knowing the offense. Yates has earned the opportunity with his preperation all season long that according to Gary.
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The dude's Wikipedia page has already been updated showing him as a member of the Houston Texans!

Good grief! Do some people sit around all day and automatically update Wiki pages, or something?

Come on now, if you checked it and found it missing that bit of information wouldn't you have updated it? I would.
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Yeah, isn't there like almost a full year involved? Seems like that's what I heard.

Texans need to go QB in round 1, period. I don't care if you think you get a guy in round 2. You go round 1 to make sure you get a round 2 (or later) guy.

With this defense, with this offense, and with Schaub being gone for a long, long time...you need to identify a college QB you think can be the future here. This isn't a Matt Schaub "Hate Parade" here, it's just common sense and logic.
If Leinart does well he might very well be starting come opening day.

I'm not saying this is going to necessarily happen, just that this is exactly the kind of situation where things like this happen.
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Well that sucks. Not unexpected but still sucks. I told a few people right after the last game that not only were the Texans playoff contenders but they were real super bowl contenders. That is very likely down the drain, but we should still make the playoffs pending the play of Leinart who I am not sold on.

I don't think it takes Matt S a full year, but who knows. I tend to think he is at or near 100% before camp rolls around. Pushing the panic button now is a little weird to say the least. Even I say let's give Matt L a chance to prove his doubters wrong.
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Given what Cloak had said, he won't be ready to play until well AFTER the season is over.
Will he be ready to go by the time of the draft?
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Well that sucks. Not unexpected but still sucks. I told a few people right after the last game that not only were the Texans playoff contenders but they were real super bowl contenders. That is very likely down the drain, but we should still make the playoffs pending the play of Leinart who I am not sold on.

I don't think it takes Matt S a full year, but who knows. I tend to think he is at or near 100% before camp rolls around. Pushing the panic button now is a little weird to say the least. Even I say let's give Matt L a chance to prove his doubters wrong.
That's where I'm at. I figure we can limp into the playoff with Hot Tub Matt, but we're finished once the "real" season starts.

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Will he be ready to go by the time of the draft?
Given what I've heard, I strongly doubt it. I'm thinking (if we're lucky), Schaub might be ready to go by regular-season next year.
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The dude's Wikipedia page has already been updated showing him as a member of the Houston Texans!

Good grief! Do some people sit around all day and automatically update Wiki pages, or something?
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I would've picked up Chase Clement for the story, didn't he go to Rice?

I mean whoever is the 3rd QB getting signed 11 weeks into the season...if they're getting meaningful snaps we're toast anyway. Same for Kellen Clemens. If he's really about to oust TJ Yates back to the scout team then ol' boy needs to be cut anyway. Depth is for players who actually have a shot at being successful, much like Leinart.
Word is Clemens will run the scout team until he shows he's up to speed on our offense.
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haha smh at the doofus reporter that asked kubiak after practice if schaub could be back for the playoffs after kubiak had talked about surgery & IR etc
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Yeah, isn't there like almost a full year involved? Seems like that's what I heard.

Texans need to go QB in round 1, period. I don't care if you think you get a guy in round 2. You go round 1 to make sure you get a round 2 (or later) guy.

With this defense, with this offense, and with Schaub being gone for a long, long time...you need to identify a college QB you think can be the future here. This isn't a Matt Schaub "Hate Parade" here, it's just common sense and logic.
Soooo you don't think Yates is that guy...??
The main reason Clements was picked up was as insurance for the rest of this year.

For the record, I'm for upgrading our "QB of the Future" myself. Unlike some others, I didn't see anything in Yates this preseason to make me think he's worthy of being Schaub's heir-apparent. I would be pleased if they used a 3rd or 4th for a QB. I'd rather use our 1st or 2nd pick on someone who has a chance to start; preferably a WR to challenge J.J. or K.W. or a NT that will challenge Cody for his spot.

But that's a different conversation; better discussed in the mock draft threads.

This conversation is about the present, not the future. This conversation concerns quality of Leinart's backups in case they're needed THIS year.
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Yeah, isn't there like almost a full year involved? Seems like that's what I heard.

Texans need to go QB in round 1, period. I don't care if you think you get a guy in round 2. You go round 1 to make sure you get a round 2 (or later) guy.

With this defense, with this offense, and with Schaub being gone for a long, long time...you need to identify a college QB you think can be the future here. This isn't a Matt Schaub "Hate Parade" here, it's just common sense and logic.
If I were the Texans, it would depend on how Leinart does. If he goes all USC this season, including the playoffs, then that's our QB. Draft a stud WR in the first round if that is the case and then trade Schaub.
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Anyone looked at Clemens stats yet?

Yikes!

My first thought was: Why did they even bother signing this guy?

But then, what the hell do I know....

From 2006 through 2010
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Anyone looked at Clemens stats yet?

Yikes!

My first thought was: Why did they even bother signing this guy?
But then, what the hell do I know....

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To run the scout team. Don't need a world beater for that.
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Well, we're gonna to dance with the ones we brung to the party ... I like that.


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Anyone looked at Clemens stats yet?

Yikes!

My first thought was: Why did they even bother signing this guy?

But then, what the hell do I know....

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I meant Yates. If he gets knocked down by some scrub who couldn't make it onto a team until week 11? That's enough writing on the wall for me.
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