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Old 11-23-2011   #121
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This LINK may help figure FA moves.
Thanks, Doc!

Too many player movements to keep track of.
I know some of us guys were signed by other teams like Okoye etc.

Guess we'll wait for that guru guy to come out with a tally some time during the off-season.
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Speaking of older QBs, what is Jeff George up to these days?!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Ge...emi-retirement

In November 2008, in an appearance on Sirius NFL Radio, George said, "I find it hard to believe there isn't a place in the game for me. My arm feels like I'm 25," he said. "I'm not asking to be a starter, I just want a spot on a team. I still hold out hope I can play in this league. I'm working out three or four days a week, staying ready. Some people might laugh about it. I've been hearing the excuse, 'You're too old,' but I look at guys now playing near 40, and if you can throw it like I can throw it ... Why wouldn't you take a look at me?"[2] He said of coming back: ďIíve been trying to figure out how to get back in, and it just amazes me that Iím not on somebodyís roster. Iíve been throwing two or three times a week, and every time I go out there to throw, I canít believe Iím not a backup somewhere. I know itís a young manís game, but you canít tell me Iím not better than some of the quarterbacks that are out there. I look at teams like Minnesota or Chicago, and I want to scream at the people in charge, ĎWhat are you thinking?í Ē

More recently, on August 4, 2010 George announced on KFAN Sports radio in Minnesota that he would be willing to step in for veteran QB Brett Favre if Favre decides to retire from the Minnesota Vikings
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I think the biggest problem is picking up the remainder of his $9 mil salary.
Once a player makes it through waivers, any team can renegotiate his contract. This is what I'd consider if I were Smith. Floating out that Texans are not interested may be a tactical move. Lienert is FA after 2011 I think and Schaub after 2012. If he makes it through waivers I'd sit him down for a discussion.
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Once a player makes it through waivers, any team can renegotiate his contract. This is what I'd consider if I were Smith. Floating out that Texans are not interested may be a tactical move. Lienert is FA after 2011 I think and Schaub after 2012. If he makes it through waivers I'd sit him down for a discussion.
Leinart signed a 2 yr deal this season.
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Brodie Croyle & Kellen Clemens were drafted in 06 along with Matt Leinart. This was before Rick Smith was GM. Just looking through current Texan roster from this draft besides Leinart, Mario, DeMeco, Winston, Daniels, Texans have added Jonathan Joseph (24th overall) Jason Allen (16th overall) Danieal Manning (42nd overall) Rashad Butler (89th) Lawrence Vickers (180th) & Joel Dreeseen (undrafted).

So if they follow form its between Croyle & Clemens
Add Kellen Clemens to the list:

  • #1 Mario Williams
  • #10 Matt Leinart
  • #16 Jason Allen
  • #24 Jonathan Joseph
  • #33 DeMeco Ryans
  • #42 Danieal Manning
  • #49 Kellen Clemons
  • #66 Eric Winston
  • #89 Rashad Butler
  • #98 Owen Daniels
  • #180 Lawerence Vickers
  • UDFA Joel Dreessen

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Four first rounders, three second rounders, two third rounders, one fourth, one 6th & one undrafted free agent.
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bump this, because we will be working out some more with Matt2 broken collarbone
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call Favre or we are done. I hate to say it but our offense sucks now without Schaub and Leinert.
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Our offense sucks because Yates hasn't been getting a lot of reps in practice. He now will. We'll probably lose the next two now with Yates as the starter, but we can still beat Carolina and Indy and take the division.
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We need the Ol' Gunslinger...
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Our offense sucks because Yates hasn't been getting a lot of reps in practice. He now will. We'll probably lose the next two now with Yates as the starter, but we can still beat Carolina and Indy and take the division.
Damnit Why can't this team catch a ****ing break. Come on Texans. We will be this year's Packers and win the whole ****ing thing. Damn injuries threatening to ruin what has been so far a great season
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I'm leaning towards Jeff Garcia.
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I don't care what anyone says, I would place a call to Mississippi yesterday. From everything reported, Jeff Garcia wasn't very good in the UFL so I'd pass on him. At least we know Favre wouldn't be overwhelmed by defenses and can still sling the ball. At this point, anything is better than what I saw in the second half.
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Uhhh. No.
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Uhhh. No.
True dat - horrible idea (and that's coming from someone who was a huge Favre fan while he was still playing).
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Ol mississippi. !!!!!!!!! if matt2 cant go next week screw it lol
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nope for Favre we have our #4



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kurt warner please or b.favre
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call Favre or we are done. I hate to say it but our offense sucks now without Schaub and Leinert.
I don't think we were going anywhere with Leinart anyways.

Our best hope is that TJ Yates transforms from 3rd stringer to Lightning In A Bottle somehow. These are times that define a QB's career moving forward from such an event as what happened in Florida with both our QBs.

If TJ Yates can't take advantage of this situation and get it done in 2011, then he has wasted a huge chance at being among the NFL's best "Unheralded QBs" who came in and started owning the environment.

My worry is that we're down to only a handful of full practices (in pads, right?) that the new CBA says you can have. He needs to feel pressure, get bumped by our defense in practice, etc.

He needs the QB Simulator Machine every day this whole week...and hope that Kubiak turns him loose a little more next week.
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Our best hope is that TJ Yates transforms from 3rd stringer to Lightning In A Bottle somehow. These are times that define a QB's career moving forward from such an event as what happened in Florida with both our QBs.
I'm certainly not suggesting it's likely, but a very similar situation elevated Tom Brady -- 6th round pick, pressed into service by injury to one of the better QBs in the game (Drew Bledsoe), and the rest is history. (Brady was second string, but still...)

But longer term, if you are going to have Yates remain the starter, you can't keep protecting him with an extremely limited playbook. Today it made sense to do it to some degree. Moving forward, if you make the decision to start him you need to show some trust in him. If you won't have that trust and give him almost the full playbook to work with, then you need to find another QB you will trust with it.
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