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Old 11-22-2011   #101
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Not interested in Orton. Not unless he comes at a serious discount.
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Kyle Orton cut by Broncos today. Just sayin'.
Dayum! After Elway was on Mike & Mike just this a.m. saying Jesus was not the future as far as the QB in Denver. What the hell is going on up there?
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No Orton. No freaking way. Then again, Monday might have me singing a different tune, but I highly doubt it.

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ESPN saying $2.5 million. Bears may be ibterest but he might not as one analyst said
'Been a divorce. Doubt he will go back"

KC may make a claim but Houston should be in the hunt.
If KC doesn't claim him.......and he makes it up to the "Bears' spot"..........Houston could take him over the Bears if they wanted to.
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If KC doesn't claim him.......and he makes it up to the "Bears' spot"..........Houston could take him over the Bears if they wanted to.
McClain tweeted that the Texans aren't interested in Orton.
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I think it would make good reality TV if Orton signed with the Bears then had to start when they played the Broncos on Dec 11th. Even better reality TV if Orton led the Bears to a victory over Tebow.
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Dayum! After Elway was on Mike & Mike just this a.m. saying Jesus was not the future as far as the QB in Denver. What the hell is going on up there?
It's been said that the hardest thing to learn in life is which bridge to cross and which to burn. I have the feeling that Denver screwed up.
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I have the feeling that Denver screwed up.
I'm thinking it's locker room "control"
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It's been said that the hardest thing to learn in life is which bridge to cross and which to burn. I have the feeling that Denver screwed up.
Not sure exactly what you mean by this, but word is that Denver was actually doing him a favor, as he'd indicated he wanted to be released once he heard about Cutler's thumb:

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Orton was in the last year of his contract, and there was absolutely no way that he was going to be back in Denver next year, but considering that the Bronco's are still on the hook for his entire remaining contract if he's not claimed on waivers, it was actually a surprisingly decent thing for them to do (assuming of course the reports that it was his request are true).
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McClain tweeted that the Texans aren't interested in Orton.
According to McClain the Texans aren't ever interested in ANYONE. He needs to reword his tweets with the word "I" instead of "Texans".

"Texans aren't interested in Leigh Bodden."
-Leigh Bodden visits Houston the following day

"Texans aren't interested in released safety Chris Harris"
-According to Harris's agent, he was scheduled to visit Houston first if not claimed off waivers

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It's been said that the hardest thing to learn in life is which bridge to cross and which to burn. I have the feeling that Denver screwed up.
I'm with you on this assessment. The Denver brass decided to yield to the screams and rants of the fanbase and bench Orton for Tebow. I happen to think they screwed up.

I just think that Tebow act won't wash against teams that are able to carry a double-digit/two possession leads on Denver in the fourth quarter. That means Tebow has to throw effectively and efficiently to get his team back in the game. He has not shown that he can do that.
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Maybe Alex Brink? He can't be that busy.
He's not available; he's 2nd string for Winnipeg behind Buck Pierce. They made it to the Grey Cup final so he'll be in Vancouver on Sunday.
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claiming Orton has another benefit. When he leaves as a free agent in March 2012, the team that employs him for six weeks would be in line of a compensatory draft pick. So there’s one more good reason to consider doing it.
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Another interesting twist.

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I'd do it even without that incentive, with the possibility of a comp. pick I'd jump on him if available.
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Won't the contribution Orton makes to your team determine what level of comp pick he would bring in? If he never sees the field for our team, would we get anything at all? I dunno.... we could use up most of our remaining cap room and not get a dang thing for it.

Anyone know the rules on comp picks? How much would he have to play for us to get a comp pick??
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I'd do it even without that incentive, with the possibility of a comp. pick I'd jump on him if available.
I think the biggest problem is picking up the remainder of his $9 mil salary.
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Won't the contribution Orton makes to your team determine what level of comp pick he would bring in? If he never sees the field for our team, would we get anything at all? I dunno.... we could use up most of our remaining cap room and not get a dang thing for it.

Anyone know the rules on comp picks? How much would he have to play for us to get a comp pick??
Good point!

I had this link in my archives. The NFL Management Council has never revealed the "formula." But it appears that it is mostly based on salary........with some "adjustment" for playing time and post season honors. Probably having no playing time does not preclude a compensatory pick. But evidently not every free agent lost or signed is covered by the formula.
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I had this link in my archives. The NFL Management Council has never revealed the "formula." But it appears that it is mostly based on salary........with some "adjustment" for playing time and post season honors. Probably having no playing time does not preclude a compensatory pick. But evidently not every free agent lost or signed is covered by the formula.
What about our FA signings?
Do we pretty much guarantee ourselves that we won't get any comp pick next year with the signings of JJo and D. Manning?
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Speaking of older QBs, what is Jeff George up to these days?!
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What about our FA signings?
Do we pretty much guarantee ourselves that we won't get any comp pick next year with the signings of JJo and D. Manning?
This LINK may help figure FA moves.
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