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Old 11-15-2011   #21
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I almost started not to even post this thread and this is why. Can't even have a civil discussion without a-hole comments such as this. Go enjoy all the other quality threads then. Apparently your feel fine with Leinart starting and Yates as the back up.

The idea was to discuss possible veteran back ups, Garrard was the only guy I could think of besides Favre.

I was wrong, we are fine. We don't need an emergency QB if Leinart goes down.
He's kinda right though. Get Favre, get Garrard, Yates or Leinart...it is getting pretty stupid.
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Wow to the bolded, I had no idea he was that young. I would guess he would still be around a la Kitna. I almost completely forgot about him.

Mods, can you please change the thread title to "What about a vet QB such as David Garrard as a back up to Leinart?" That was the original idea of the thread.
Oops - brain cramp (I didn't think that sounded right either). He's 41. My (Big time) screw up!
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He's kinda right though. Get Favre, get Garrard, Yates or Leinart...it is getting pretty stupid.
Well I thought the Leinart or Yates question was silly. And the Get Favre idea as well.

My intent was what about a vet QB to BACK UP Leinart, not start in place of him. Too me that is not that stupid of an idea. Garrard came to mind, and wanted others take as well other ideas of who to grab.

Champion made a good point about team chemistry. I am just nervous with Yates back there. None of Kubes' other young QB's have panned out that I remember. Not even Sage, who had more experience then most.
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...I wouldn't want to see Yates be trotted out there with playoff implications on the line.
It'll be storybook...

Cinderella story, named after a guy named Taylor and another guy named Jonathon, he backpeddles...

It's up .... OH! it's in his breadbasket, Yates flips it 97 yards to AJ for his 7th 90+ yard touchdown pass in a 4 minute span...

Tears in his eyes, the beloved son of Marrietta, Georgia --- having overcome poverty & polio & 7 gunshot wounds helping a little old lady across the street...

Yates triumphantly rides the shoulders of both super bowl team's players and the umpires as he's regaled by all!

Even Joe Montana is crying, ladies and gentleman.


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how about David Carr? I hear he is available.
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how about David Carr? I hear he is available.
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Was it the injury that led to his poor performance in the pre-season? That's what I took it as but haven't been able to find anything definitive. What I read seem to indicate the injury had been present awhile. If it was loss of desire, lack of dedciation, etc. than I wouldn't want him.
I don't know why he didn't play well, but honestly I don't think the Jags wanted him anymore...

Like I said, I could be completely wrong about his ability but he seems like he has declined a bit with injuies and age.

Honestly, I'm not sure who is out there that I'd bring in...
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how about David Carr? I hear he is available.
Um.... no, he's not. He's backing up Eli Manning.
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Default Re: What about a vet QB such as David Garrard as a back up to Leinart?

unless I am missing something,

I think some of you saw David Garrard and that is all you saw.

I read it as this
What about a vet QB such as David Garrard as a back up to Leinart??

I was actually trying to think of what vet might be available. I am not comfortable with TJ Yates coming in, just yet.

If he has to come in, he has to come in,but I would feel better with a Veteran


I haven't had any luck finding a list of QB's that are out there to bring in and try out.
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a list i saw (from Oct 11,2011)

J.P.losman
Chris Simms
Charlie Frye
Patrick Ramsey
Troy Smith
Jake Delhome
Trent Edwards


yeah I know Bleacher report, but I can't find any list on NFL.com
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8...a-need/page/12
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unless I am missing something,

I think some of you saw David Garrard and that is all you saw.

I read it as this
What about a vet QB such as David Garrard as a back up to Leinart??
To be fair, earlier responses were to the original topic titled: What about David Garrard as a back up to Leinart?
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We've got Leinart and I think he's going to do very well but even if he's just getting by that's kind of what we're stuck with. You carry a 2 for a reason and there won't be anyone out there better versed on what we're doing than Leinart.

If he's knocked out of a game though you're going to be down to Yates and I'm fine with that except for the idea that if our line gets Leinart killed (assuming it's not some fluke play/injury) then Yates is going to be carting his rookie ass out into the same storm. Do we want to be running a rookie out there against some defense that's getting pressure against us and playing spoiler?

We've run with three QB's on the roster all season. You have to bring someone in I think to fill that 3rd spot if Schaub ends up being done for the year. I'd go get 41 year old Jeff Garcia if he's game. The man is 41 friggin years old. He's not going to bring any sort of controversy with him. Veteran minimum, 6 games riding the pine, and a shot to pick up a ring one last time. That's his deal.

I'd sign him in a heartbeat if he's interested.
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We've got Leinart and I think he's going to do very well but even if he's just getting by that's kind of what we're stuck with. You carry a 2 for a reason and there won't be anyone out there better versed on what we're doing than Leinart.
Schaub has been splitting reps 50/50 with Leinart for a month according to McClain...so he was already hurt and banged up enough for Kubiak to parse out half his reps. I noticed Schaub wasn't doing much straight 7-step drops. Almost all his throws were boots off the stretch and moving the pocket with easy crossing passes. Schaub even under threw his opening TD pass as if his push off foot was giving him problems. Seems like most of his conventional drop backs were shotgun snaps....so I guess what I'm getting at was that we have made it this far with half a Schaub for the last month. Leinart should be at least as productive as a gimpy Schaub hopefully. With any luck at all Leinart 2.0 will step up and make some plays now that he has had all this time to digest everything...plus apparently he's already had a ton of reps getting him ready for what Kubiak must have seen coming. I can't imagine giving Leinart all those reps and not expecting him to see action.
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To be fair, earlier responses were to the original topic titled: What about David Garrard as a back up to Leinart?
True. But I did retitle the OP right away however it wasn't until a mod changed it for me did it change all the other reply titles and the thread name in the Texans Talk part of the forum. My intent was to spur some conversation towards the idea if not Garrard then who else could be the guy?

Before I found out that Garrard hasn't recovered from injury, he's was the first guy I thought could be a good fill in and give us insight to the game against Jax after the bye. I could have done a better job stating the premise of my thread, which is, I feel we need a vet to back up Leinart. I tried to clarify that in subsequent post.
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how about David Carr? I hear he is available.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned JaMarcus Russell. I hear he is looking for a new gig, and Houston has plenty of purple-drank to keep him happy.
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The Montreal Alouettes got eliminated last week, maybe Anthony Calvillo's available
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Schaub has been splitting reps 50/50 with Leinart for a month according to McClain...so he was already hurt and banged up enough for Kubiak to parse out half his reps. I noticed Schaub wasn't doing much straight 7-step drops. Almost all his throws were boots off the stretch and moving the pocket with easy crossing passes. Schaub even under threw his opening TD pass as if his push off foot was giving him problems. Seems like most of his conventional drop backs were shotgun snaps....so I guess what I'm getting at was that we have made it this far with half a Schaub for the last month. Leinart should be at least as productive as a gimpy Schaub hopefully. With any luck at all Leinart 2.0 will step up and make some plays now that he has had all this time to digest everything...plus apparently he's already had a ton of reps getting him ready for what Kubiak must have seen coming. I can't imagine giving Leinart all those reps and not expecting him to see action.
Good point Vinny. As long as Leinart dump off short pass to TE and RB, we shouldn't have much of problem. Occasionally, throw long pass to keep opponent's D honest. With our strong running game and our D, this is all we need.

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