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Old 11-15-2011   #141
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Matt Lienart vs Matt Schaub.... what's the real difference?

Why was Lienart a 1st round pick & Schaub a 3rd?

Why did Lienart come in the league as a starter & Schaub a back-up?
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Matt Lienart vs Matt Schaub.... what's the real difference?

Why was Lienart a 1st round pick & Schaub a 3rd?

Why did Lienart come in the league as a starter & Schaub a back-up?
Even if it is no indicator for NFL success, Leinart probably got more exposure because of his heisman season and then the other season going 3rd place in heisman voting.

Schaub was also in a draft with Manning, Rivers, Roethlisberger and Losman who were all drafted before him.

Their skillset is virtually the same though, right?
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Even if it is no indicator for NFL success, Leinart probably got more exposure because of his heisman season and then the other season going 3rd place in heisman voting.

Schaub was also in a draft with Manning, Rivers, Roethlisberger and Losman who were all drafted before him.

Their skillset is virtually the same though, right?
Seems to be. We'll see.
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Matt will get us to the playoffs, take a picture with a porn star who has his jersey tied around both of her wrists and he will send out a public announcement that he's not apologizing at all.
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The possible silver lining here is the opposition does not have much film on Leinart. Kubiak will do everything he can to get him comfortable.

If Leinart has matured at all and is willing to put in the work (as in his butt better be at Reliant as I type this), he might work out fine. Heck, he may surprise a few folks.
And it happened on the bye. Gives two weeks to get ready.
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I think Leinart throws a nicer ball than Schaub.

Did you see the end-over-end pass to Jacoby that scored an 80-yard TD on the first play? It looked like an end-over-end punt, which I guess is why Jacoby was able to catch it. LOL.

I expect him to be a manager, a Trent Dilfer type of guy that isn't great...he's just patient and takes what he can get and lets the defense and run game to do the rest.

It would be smart to have a LOT of 3-step drops for Leinart, get him into a rhythm as we also integrate the running game. Quick slant, BOOM. 5-yard curl route, BOOM. Quick out, BOOM. RB swing pass, BOOM. Then ease him into the more difficult routes. People might think this is babying him too much, but we've got two weeks off and he didn't throw a single pass vs. Tampa Bay the whole time he was in there...so he's going to have two weeks of no "live bullets" training like you have in a real game. Could be easy for him to get rattled early on vs. Jags if Kubiak has him doing the more complicated timing routes right out of the gate.

They don't need to make him try too hard with 5-step drops and lots of progressions or reads early on. Have a main target on each play...with a safety valve if that main target is not open enough for him.

Now is not the time for Kubiak to try and impress the world with his QB coaching skills, as in "Look how awesome I make QBs. See? I can put any QB in there and have the same success." I am trusting that Kubiak has enough self-control in this area, now, to know that this season is not worth trying to get cute--Hence the signature pic and why it's still up.

Until I see that he values good old-fashioned CONVENTIONAL wisdom rather than trying to be a wizard of offense with his system, my sig image remains. The only guys who can screw up this season is Gary Kubiak if he gets a wild hair up his ass and tries to force Leinart into the Matt Schaub role to quickly.

In the end, this will come down to whether Kubiak wants to try and land this plane that has only one engine left...or if he tries to do barrel rolls and loopty-loops to impress the ladies. All bets are off, IMO, because out of all the weirdness we've seen so far this season...Gary Kubiak has to be the wild card that could make or break the season. If you find that offensive or absurd, then you haven't watched much Texans football the past five years.
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I went home last night and watched a pre-season recording I still have dvr'd. I'm not sure he'll do the same thing now, but it seemed to me that Leinart checked down a lot. Which is fine if it's all the defense is giving, but dang, it seemed much more noticeable with him than Schaub.

Anyone else remember this during the pre-season?

Anywho, I think Leinart will be ok. I reckon he'll be a bit jittery at the get go, so let's hope the fellas can pick him up.
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anybody here who's saying schaub has a weaker arm clearly hasn't seen leinart throw. that being said, i'm glad we have an awesome running game / defense so all we need for him is to manage the games. i really hope schaub can be back for the postseason...
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I don't like anything that Leinart has shown since he has entered the NFL, but for better (not likely) or worse (likely) he's the guy taking the snaps.
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Until I see that he values good old-fashioned CONVENTIONAL wisdom rather than trying to be a wizard of offense with his system, my sig image remains. The only guys who can screw up this season is Gary Kubiak if he gets a wild hair up his ass and tries to force Leinart into the Matt Schaub role to quickly.

In the end, this will come down to whether Kubiak wants to try and land this plane that has only one engine left...or if he tries to do barrel rolls and loopty-loops to impress the ladies. All bets are off, IMO, because out of all the weirdness we've seen so far this season...Gary Kubiak has to be the wild card that could make or break the season. If you find that offensive or absurd, then you haven't watched much Texans football the past five years.
I agree with your whole post. Just didn't quote it all because I'm hoping everyone already read the great post you put up.

Kubiak just needs to remember that we won 7 games by playing great defense and using our awesome running game. Everyone in the league is talking about how this is a passing league now but look at some of the top teams in the league like San Fransisco. They are winning by playing great defense and running the ball. We can do this.
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Extra motivation for the defense to step up more. As long as Matt L. is prepared and throws the ball away when there's nothing there we will be fine with the schedule we have left. It's his time to shine, Good luck Matt Leinart. [indent] Having Dre back will help also.
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I think Leinart throws a nicer ball than Schaub.
How is it possible that you aren't an NFL coach already?
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Quick slant, BOOM. 5-yard curl route, BOOM. Quick out, BOOM. RB swing pass, BOOM.
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I went home last night and watched a pre-season recording I still have dvr'd. I'm not sure he'll do the same thing now, but it seemed to me that Leinart checked down a lot. Which is fine if it's all the defense is giving, but dang, it seemed much more noticeable with him than Schaub.
If Leinart checks down a lot and it still keeps us getting first downs we'll be fine. I think the main emphasis Kubiak needs is to ensure Owen and Joel get lots of opportunities for catches. Luckily, we have some really good TEs who will make Matt's life a little easier. Does anyone know if he ever had a top-tier TE in Arizona, I can't recall. But, the running game + the TEs + Andre should equal success against the teams that are definitely worse than us, and should at a bare minimum keep us in games against tough competition.

The only thing that worries me now is that I don't think there's any way we can win a shootout (e.g. Saints/Packers/Patriots/Bills).
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Kubiak just needs to remember that we won 7 games by playing great defense and using our awesome running game. Everyone in the league is talking about how this is a passing league now but look at some of the top teams in the league like San Fransisco. They are winning by playing great defense and running the ball. We can do this.
At Reliant, Schaub converted many a third downs against the Jags. Arian had to carry the ball 30 times to break 100 yards.

We're going to be playing them in Jacksonville.

The Jags still have the best defense that we will face & Cincinnati is right behind them.

Lienart is going to have to throw the ball for us to win in Jacksonville.

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I've never seen Leinart successfully throw a deep ball as a Texans QB. So, someone find me an example on youtube if there is one..

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We don't (or at least I don't) need Matt Leinart to throw 3 TDs a game and pass for 350+ yards. As long as he can manage the game and the clock and spread the ball around we can keep on winning.
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I wonder if the team really will "rally around" Leinart like they say they will. Or are they really thinking "we're screwed" in the back of their minds? Will they still play like they have been?
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I wonder if the team really will "rally around" Leinart like they say they will. Or are they really thinking "we're screwed" in the back of their minds? Will they still play like they have been?
Well that's where I believe Wade is going to make the biggest impact on our team this year. I'm sure he will rally the troops on Defense and have them believing that we will go to the playoffs on their shoulders.
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7 beers and 4 chicks in the hot tub good!


Actually, he will do fine until you get Garrard.
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I think the team will rally. They have come too far to give up now and they have too much faith in themselves as a team.

Wade has been a huge help and not just on defense. His swagger, his confidence has been just what the Texans needed. Even Kubiak has been less uptight since Wade came on board. Wade's influence just might be what saves us this season, gets us into the playoffs and maybe even win a game. I don't think the SB is a possibility now but one playoff game is possible depending upon how fast Leinart meshes with his new position.
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