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Old 11-14-2011   #361
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this win with def and run is nice in theory but the QB is going to have to make some plays I mean def & run game can be great but if Matt2 throws 3 picks or holds ball to long gets sacked to kill drives it is all for nothing. Matt2 will be our version of Sanchez NYJ. Win or lose threw him.
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ALL i know is i have not officially heard anything from the texans that he is out for the season, all this seems to be word of mouth to me. He seemed fine in the post game show and seemed fine playing the rest of the game. All of this may just be getting blown out of proportion since we are now in first place in the AFC.
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Kurt warner anybody? Maybe somebody can talk him out of retirement. He would be a perfect fit for the system.
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Kurt warner anybody? Maybe somebody can talk him out of retirement. He would be a perfect fit for the system.
There's no way in hell he's coming out of retirement. Don't you think cardinals tried last year?
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Pretty sure Leinart would be on suicide watch if Warner took his job again.
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There's no way in hell he's coming out of retirement. Don't you think cardinals tried last year?
I know they did. Just saying that this is a much better situation. Much much better defense than he had in AZ and it's only half a season. Don't have to go through training camp. And also a great running game to along with the good defense. He would have a hell of a chance to win another Super Bowl with this team.
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All i see is ESPN the only ones who are reporting the season ending thing. Maybe they're just speculating so in case they are right, they are first to report it? I can only hope.
I remember several reports being inaccurate this year about the Texans. Recall the "Leinart to Seahawks" report? Remember the "Walter out for several weeks/season"? He missed 1 game IIRC. People want news, and dramatic stories make headlines. They could be right, but I'm trying to be cautiously optimistic.
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I know they did. Just saying that this is a much better situation. Much much better defense than he had in AZ and it's only half a season. Don't have to go through training camp. He would have a hell of a chance to win another Super Bowl with this team.
Do you really think Kurt Warner is in any kind of football shape right now? He's retired and completely done with football. Unlike Favre, he's content with his choice and is probably enjoying his retirement.
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so... when is Schaub up for a new contract? I saw something the past week or so saying the Texans would work on his extension before the start of next season.
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Do you really think Kurt Warner is in any kind of football shape right now? He's retired and completely done with football. Unlike Favre, he's content with his choice and is probably enjoying his retirement.
Probably not. But I just don't like Leinart whatsoever. I would rather have 75% of Warner than a 100% of Leinart. I hope Matt proves me wrong but I just don't trust the guy.

I know Warner probably will never come back, just saying that if he did, this would be the perfect fit.
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Where's Dave Ragone when you need him?
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Where's Dave Ragone when you need him?
Lol he is receivers coach for the Tacks. Might want to lure him back.
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so... when is Schaub up for a new contract? I saw something the past week or so saying the Texans would work on his extension before the start of next season.

I think next year is his contract year.
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Lol he is receivers coach for the Tacks. Might want to lure him back.
yes lets please do i remember his first start against the jags. Worst game i have ever seen the texans play
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In the other Schaub Injury thread, I tried to prepare you all for something more serious than just a routine mild sprain by pointing out that the boot was not consistent with this type of injury. I suggested that it had to be a more severe Grade II or a Grade III sprain, the latter in which you would need to rule out an accompanying fracture. If it IS a Lisfranc fracture, don't count on Schaub coming back this season.

Non-operative (in the case of a stable fracture) or operative treatment would require 6-8 weeks totally non-bearing. No way does he return then. He would just be beginning rehab at that time. Strengthening takes time, especially after this type of injury which is accompanied by ligament damage.
If the injury requires surgery, Schaub would probably not be allowed to return to sports until the hardware is removed, which is usually not before 3-6 months after the original operation.

A Lisfranc injury can be a devastating injury which can lead to debilitating chronic pain and progressive arthritic problems. I hope that this is not the case.
Just my opinion, we won't see schaub for at least a yr. If we use recent history, some of those guys take 2 yrs. I was in favor of drafting a qb late 1st or 2nd rd. Right now, that should be even more of a priority. Early draft boards have RG3 as 5th best qb and 41st best prospect. If he comes out and is there, you can't get a better situation.
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RGIII is just as brittle.

We need an Elway type in terms of durability..

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ALL i know is i have not officially heard anything from the texans that he is out for the season, all this seems to be word of mouth to me. He seemed fine in the post game show and seemed fine playing the rest of the game. All of this may just be getting blown out of proportion since we are now in first place in the AFC.
The fact that he went back into the game after the injury and NOW is seeing several specialists AFTER the game, tends to make me believe that he had a stress or undisplaced fracture which commonly may not be picked up on regular x-ray for as long as 10 days. Kubiak even essentially said that the x-ray machine in Reliant is not exactly anything state of the art. But the decision on the basis of not seeing anything on that x-ray (an x-ray at that point only can be considered useful if it positively demonstrates a fracture or at least a separation of bones implying ligament damage.........not when it's negative), the decision was made to let him return to play, instead of playing it on the side of caution and waiting to hopefully obtain a more definitive diagnosis on your valuable QB with more sensitive and reliable testing. The return to play decision in such a case could have easily extended the injury to completion of a stress fracture or ligament tear, or a displacement of an already present recently sustained stress or undisplaced fracture........making surgery the only option.

I don't in any way profess to have all of the facts. But the above turn of events would not surprise me. We will again all have to wait for what facts the Texans finally decide to eventually release.
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This either goes one of two ways, or I'll be disappointed. Either Leinart shows that he's been hungry for another shot, and has been working this entire time (not just the next 2 weeks) - OR we go after a QB early in the draft next year. If we don't do either, then I'll be very disappointed. Schaub is neither young, an ironman, or exceptionally athletic. His replacement needs to start being groomed. Think Aaron Rogers, with a 3 year sit behind Favre.
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How is Leinart's mobility? Is this a strength we can play to?
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