Schaub injured (update)

[HOU-TEX]

Originally Posted by rush2112mn

I just listened to the Coach Kubiak show.....he said the injury is not season ending yet......that Schaub will go see a couple of specialists first.....but that is not season ending yet....

Dang ESPN......saying it is season ending......wtf ESPN.....they are just putting it out there to say it....they have nothing confirmed by the Texans yet......TOTAL MFBS.......

Espn......bspn........

Shefter's reporting it...so it's likely true. Unfortunately, Shefter is rarely incorrect.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger

This is how most Lisfrancs occur. The player is down and another player falls or steps full weight onto the heel of the fallen player.

Oh SNAP!!
that hurts just looking at it.

You know, seems like stuff seems to happen to Schaub when he goes against fat Albert.
...just sayin'....

[gtexan02]

With all the sports I've watched, all the teams I've followed, no one has created such a range of frustrations and disappointments as the Texans.

And now we are finally 7-3 and being talked about as potential playoff contenders....and we lose our starting QB.

Words can't express...

[TexanFan881]

Originally Posted by Jackie Chiles

If you truly think the running game this year has been "nothing incredibly special" I don't know what team you have been watching.

I would also say that while we are not an elite run defense most of the rush yards against us have actually come when we are ahead late and everyone has their ears pinned back rushing the passer.

Ok, nothing incredibly special might be pushing it, but it isn't what everyone is making it. It's not the best in the league. We are running the ball 35 times a game...of course if we are halfway decent we would be up there yardage wise. 4.4 yards per carry...there are 9 teams in the league that are better than that...and we don't have much of a passing game left. Schaub is way better than anyone around here and gives him credit for. Leinart will not fill his role. There will be a void. There's no doubt and a beat will be missed. But we can still win. Just worried.

[gtexan02]

I personally think we're screwed.

A big reason our run games works is because teams have to respect the play action pass. Not anymore

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by TexanFan881

Ok, nothing incredibly special might be pushing it, but it isn't what everyone is making it. It's not the best in the league. We are running the ball 35 times a game...of course if we are halfway decent we would be up there yardage wise. 4.4 yards per carry...there are 9 teams in the league that are better than that...and we don't have much of a passing game left. Schaub is way better than anyone around here and gives him credit for. Leinart will not fill his role. There will be a void. There's no doubt and a beat will be missed. But we can still win. Just worried.

Dude, you gotta change that sig

[The Cush]

Originally Posted by TexanFan881

Ok, nothing incredibly special might be pushing it, but it isn't what everyone is making it. It's not the best in the league. We are running the ball 35 times a game...of course if we are halfway decent we would be up there yardage wise. 4.4 yards per carry...there are 9 teams in the league that are better than that

When it matters its been special. Those numbers might be skewed because how many times have we opened up the second half with a big lead and just tried to force-feed our run down the opponents throats for 2 quarters to close out a game. Teams could stack the box with 11 guys and we would still run it because we wanted to eat up clock.

[TexCanada]

Originally Posted by gtexan02

I personally think we're screwed.

A big reason our run games works is because teams have to respect the play action pass. Not anymore

Well we won't know if that is true until we see Matt 2 play. We are asking a LOT less of our QB this year then we did in years past. This obviously hurts us, but we should still be able to win most of the games on our remaining schedule. 10 wins should still be the minimum expectation IMO.

[TexanFan881]

Originally Posted by The Cush

When it matters its been special. Those numbers might be skewed because how many times have we opened up the second half with a big lead and just tried to force-feed our run down the opponents throats for 2 quarters to close out a game. Teams could stack the box with 11 guys and we would still run it because we wanted to eat up clock.

True, good point, hopefully I'm just being pessimistic right now. But you're definitely right in that case, especially late in games when all we've done is hand the ball off after having explosive first halves. And with knowing we are running and stacking the box, 4.4 yards per carry looks a lot more impressive. I'm trying to talk myself out of this pessimism hahaha

Originally Posted by Ryan

Dude, you gotta change that sig

Uh definitely, I don't know why I've never gotten around to it. For a long time I didn't post here, just lurked. Just recently started posting every once in awhile. Totally forgot about it to be honest. Pretty funny to see how far we've gone.

[Iceman16]

Originally Posted by Ryan

Dude, you gotta change that sig

[SheTexan]

I've read everyone of these threads and I'm so depressed I'm headed to my favorite Mexican food restaurant for some ritas! I just can't take this tonight. Maybe tomorrow I'll have a better, and more positive, attitude. Right now all I feel is doom and gloom, and I'm usually a pretty positive person. Just can't process this sheeeeeeet!!!

[The Pencil Neck]

Originally Posted by Texecutioner

You're bringing up two situations that aren't the norm at all with Brady and Rodgers. How many 2nd string QB's end up being all time greats like Brady has been?? When you guys were going ape **** on Schaub there weren't many people thinking he had the ability to win a SB at all. It was just a few weeks ago, so that's why I pointed out that a lot of folks should be happy about this. The majority of QB's that have risen in this league have been top 10 QB picks and they're all a roll of the dice and we weren't going to be looking at any top 10 picks any way next year and there will be like 4 teams in the top 10 that desperately need a QB bad. That's why I thought it was crazy at how anyone would want to rid this team of Matt Schaub because he isn't some elite guy who is clutch all of the time.

THis season isn't over though. Have faith in Matt being servicable. I certainly do.

Personally, I always thought Schaub was upper echelon and I think people have been overly critical of his abilities. I think most of the people panicking are the people who thought he was good.

After getting over the shock (not that I'm totally over it, yet), I'm with you. Leinart can do this.

But, #2 QBs who've ended up being great? Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre, Matt Hasselbeck had some good years, Jim Plunkett, Roger Staubach... there have been quite a few QBs who've turned out pretty good who had to spend a few years on the bench. Some guys even started off as #1s, then had to get demoted and fight their way back up (like Plunkett.)

I'm hoping Leinart ends up like Plunkett. A guy who had his shot, blew it, sat on the bench and figured things out, and then got his chance and rocked.

[LonerATO]

With the Defense playing the way it is, the running game looking great and AJ coming back, I can only hope that Leinart turns out like Tent Dilfer in this situation. What I mean by that, is a QB that can just manage the game.

[DeMarCushPoll]

Just got through watching the play that schaub got hurt on. Sure looked like albert FAT-ASS haynesworthless was the one that rolled on his foot. I HOPE HIS DAMN BOAT SINKS IN THE GULF!!!!!

[Kthx]

Leinart was looking pretty decent in the preseason, I know that isn't that much to go on but I am not going to be breaking out the arsenic colonic until he proves to me that he isn't going to lead this team to wins. I expect to see a lot more Foster and Tate in the meantime and I doubt anyone can complain too much about that so all that is left to do is wait and see.

[Texecutioner]

Originally Posted by Bipolar The Titan

that was funny

Where the hell have you been man??

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

Personally, I always thought Schaub was upper echelon and I think people have been overly critical of his abilities. I think most of the people panicking are the people who thought he was good.

In Port Arthur, upper echelon & good are pretty much the same thing. If nothing else, upper echelon is actually better than good.

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

After getting over the shock (not that I'm totally over it, yet), I'm with you. Leinart can do this.

I'm hoping Leinart ends up like Plunkett. A guy who had his shot, blew it, sat on the bench and figured things out, and then got his chance and rocked.

I'm hoping it's all about the system. Arizona has never had a running game. We haven't ever seen them "produce" a quality QB either, they wasted Jake Plummer, brought in Warner, & brought in Kolb (after giving up on trying to develop their own).

I liked what Lienart said about the QB training he's been getting here & what he said about the similarity of our boot game & what they did @USC.

[Kaiser Toro]

You never like to see a starter go down, but injuries are a part of the game and have been a significant story for the Texans this year. Other teams have gone onto glory after losing their QB and we have had guys step up in the absence of AJ, Mario, D. Manning, etc, so this is a challenge that comes with precedent. Given that we have a healthy top flight running game and a defense that takes care of business all we need is a manager of the offense.

I am not a Leinart fan, but I acknowledge that he has been able to find success in the past. Leinart would have had no shot at being successful last year, but this team is different - specifically due to the defense.

These are my questions at this juncture:
Will Knapp's development of Leinart show through, and Kubiak's script be Leinart friendly?

How many first team snaps will Yates get the next two weeks? Due to bye week rules (minimum of four consecutive days off), what is the practice plan/work around?

Is Winston ready for blind side duty in pass pro?

Do Mason (possession) and Bry Johnson (former Leinart target with AZ) become more involved in the passing game?

Will Marciano's squad be able to provide some value in the battle of field position?

Since I cannot expect the defense to do anymore, I can only hope they hold the line on their performance to date.

I don't often drink kool-aid. But when I do..... Stay thirsty Texan fans.

[Ryan]

All i see is ESPN the only ones who are reporting the season ending thing. Maybe they're just speculating so in case they are right, they are first to report it? I can only hope.

[Ryan]

mortreport Chris Mortensen
Matt Schaub's foot X-Rays were negative when they were taken at halftime. Played the 2nd half, only threw 3 passes.