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Old 04-26-2005   #21
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Because it is a classy move to cut the players now so they can land with a team.
please tell me you are being sarcastic and I just missed the tone?

they throw a fit about being replaced and we are going to be classy and fire them now instead of later? I just don't buy it. Cancer in the locker room? Perhaps. Just to be classy? No way.
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you are absolutely correct. So tell me, what is the difference in cutting them on May 31st and taking the salary hit, and cutting them in April and taking the hit. NOTHING. The net result is the same.

So why did we cut them NOW instead of later? that is the question I simply am not understanding the answer to.
maybe we cut them now for the players' benefit, when we make deals with other players in the future they will know that our organization doesn't screw them around by keeping them around when the writing is on the wall. they will have an opportunity to land somewhere before it's too late, maybe?
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please tell me you are being sarcastic and I just missed the tone?

they throw a fit about being replaced and we are going to be classy and fire them now instead of later? I just don't buy it. Cancer in the locker room? Perhaps. Just to be classy? No way.
Nope. Vinny posted this about Aaron's radio appearance:

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Glenn was praising the Texans for allowing him to find a team after the Buchanon deal. He was very appreciative of our front office and I think he was afraid of being cut later in camp due to his high salary.
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I think that the salary comes off 100% before June 1 and after june 1 we would have to absorb dead money next year. Don't quote me on that but I am checking it out.
If you cut a player before June 1, then all of the dead money is immediately realized (in the current season).

If you cut a player after June 1, then you have to count any guaranteed money for that season plus the amount of the signing bonus that would have been prorated for that season. The rest of the dead money must be counted against the current season and/or the next season. You can divy it up between them if you like as long as it is all realized before the end of the next season.

Ex. Joe Linebacker signs a 6 year contract with a $6 million signing bonus and annual salaries of $4 million prior to the 2002 season. $1 million of his salary is guaranteed every season.

Scenario 1 - Joe is cut April 26th, 2005. The team has already prorated $3 million of his signing bonus ($1 million in each 2002-2004), so that leaves $3 million of signing bonus to count against the 2005 season. Joe also had guaranteed $1 million in 2005, 2006, and 2007 that needs to be accounted for all of which will be immediately felt. That makes the total dead money $6 million ($3 millon left of prorated signing bonus + $1 million guaranteed for 2005 + $1 million for 2006 + $1 million for 2007) felt in 2005.

Scenario 2 - Joe is cut June 2nd, 2005. The team has already prorated $3 million of his signing bonus ($1 million in each 2002-2004), so that leaves $1 million of signing bonus to count against the 2005 season. Joe had guaranteed money of $1 million for 2005, so they must count $2 million for 2005. The remaining $4 million ($2 million left after 2005 in prorated signing bonus + $1 million guaranteed in each 2006 and 2007) in dead money must be counted for by the end of 2006 but can count against either 2005 or 2006.

When we cut Boselli, Scenario 2 occurred (cut after June 1, 2003). We decided, however, to take the full brunt of it in 2003 instead of carrying any of it into 2004.
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you are absolutely correct. So tell me, what is the difference in cutting them on May 31st and taking the salary hit, and cutting them in April and taking the hit. NOTHING. The net result is the same.

So why did we cut them NOW instead of later? that is the question I simply am not understanding the answer to.

You tell me why later and NOT now...?
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If you cut a player before June 1, then all of the dead money is immediately realized (in the current season).

If you cut a player after June 1, then you have to count any guaranteed money for that season plus the amount of the signing bonus that would have been prorated for that season. The rest of the dead money must be counted against the current season and/or the next season. You can divy it up between them if you like as long as it is all realized before the end of the next season.

Ex. Joe Linebacker signs a 6 year contract with a $6 million signing bonus and annual salaries of $4 million prior to the 2002 season. $1 million of his salary is guaranteed every season.

Scenario 1 - Joe is cut April 26th, 2005. The team has already prorated $3 million of his signing bonus ($1 million in each 2002-2004), so that leaves $3 million of signing bonus to count against the 2005 season. Joe also had guaranteed $1 million in 2005, 2006, and 2007 that needs to be accounted for all of which will be immediately felt. That makes the total dead money $6 million ($3 millon left of prorated signing bonus + $1 million guaranteed for 2005 + $1 million for 2006 + $1 million for 2007) felt in 2005.

Scenario 2 - Joe is cut June 2nd, 2005. The team has already prorated $3 million of his signing bonus ($1 million in each 2002-2004), so that leaves $1 million of signing bonus to count against the 2005 season. Joe had guaranteed money of $1 million for 2005, so they must count $2 million for 2005. The remaining $4 million ($2 million left after 2005 in prorated signing bonus + $1 million guaranteed in each 2006 and 2007) in dead money must be counted for by the end of 2006 but can count against either 2005 or 2006.

When we cut Boselli, Scenario 2 occurred (cut after June 1, 2003). We decided, however, to take the full brunt of it in 2003 instead of carrying any of it into 2004.

no one gets a guaranteed salary. the signing bonus is the guaranteed part of the contract. this is more of a question than a bold statement.

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You tell me why later and NOT now...?
because when you count the bean pile it comes out exactly the same later as now. Because it means that another team might realize that they would be willing to make a trade for these players. Because it would give other teams time to have their rookie camps and decide that they need help at LB or CB cause the rookies just aren't picking it up as fast as they hoped. Because the end result might, possibly be exactly the same later as it is now, but all that will really have been lost is time. Time for Sharper and Glenn to acclimate to their new team and their new teams plays. Time for Sharper and Glenn to share some of their insider experience on how the Texans scheme for games. Time for Glenn and Sharper to work out the best deal possible for themselves. Time for the Texans to even change their minds and retain these players. Time for, God forbide, Buchanan or Greenwood to fall down a flight of stairs and break their leg and therefor make Sharper and Glenn a much needed commodity.

There are ALOT of reason to wait, there are very few, if any, for them to do it now, IMHO.

does it show alot of class by the Texans front office? ok, I will concede that point. I think it is a mistake still, IMHO. The NFL is a business and this sure isn't a business driven decision, IMHO.
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being known as an orginization with class can only help us in the long run.
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with who? The FA's? they are going for the money, mainly. Or their agents are. Their agents are going for the money AND the headlines if possible. Do you really think that somewhere down the road one of the players are going to turn down money cause they wanted to play for the Texans due to their reputation as being classy? PUUULLLEEEEZZE. These players know that the NFL stands for Not For Long and they had better grab all the Greenbacks they can WHILE they can.

Class for the fans. Yeah. The Fans seem to be just estatic over the Sharper and Glenn cuts being done with so much Class that has been shown. I can just see all the threads on here talking about what a Class act that was.

The 'you can never go wrong by doing what's right' motto of Bob McNair? That is the ONLY thing I can see actually applying here. I hope that he see's how right this is, when the Cowboys don't even spend a day taking Glenn. And Sharper was signed in about a week. Sure am glad those washed up has been, or never was type players got cut early in the year and the Texans did it with such CLASS.

are you kidding me?
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If you cut a player before June 1, then all of the dead money is immediately realized (in the current season).

If you cut a player after June 1, then you have to count any guaranteed money for that season plus the amount of the signing bonus that would have been prorated for that season. The rest of the dead money must be counted against the current season and/or the next season. You can divy it up between them if you like as long as it is all realized before the end of the next season.

Ex. Joe Linebacker signs a 6 year contract with a $6 million signing bonus and annual salaries of $4 million prior to the 2002 season. $1 million of his salary is guaranteed every season.

Scenario 1 - Joe is cut April 26th, 2005. The team has already prorated $3 million of his signing bonus ($1 million in each 2002-2004), so that leaves $3 million of signing bonus to count against the 2005 season. Joe also had guaranteed $1 million in 2005, 2006, and 2007 that needs to be accounted for all of which will be immediately felt. That makes the total dead money $6 million ($3 millon left of prorated signing bonus + $1 million guaranteed for 2005 + $1 million for 2006 + $1 million for 2007) felt in 2005.

Scenario 2 - Joe is cut June 2nd, 2005. The team has already prorated $3 million of his signing bonus ($1 million in each 2002-2004), so that leaves $1 million of signing bonus to count against the 2005 season. Joe had guaranteed money of $1 million for 2005, so they must count $2 million for 2005. The remaining $4 million ($2 million left after 2005 in prorated signing bonus + $1 million guaranteed in each 2006 and 2007) in dead money must be counted for by the end of 2006 but can count against either 2005 or 2006.

When we cut Boselli, Scenario 2 occurred (cut after June 1, 2003). We decided, however, to take the full brunt of it in 2003 instead of carrying any of it into 2004.
Cutting Joe before June first would only be a cap hit of the remaining prorated bonus. The reamining salary is gone for the player and off the books for the team.

Cutting Joe after the June first allows the team to break up the remaining prorated bonus+incentives from previous year+any roster bonus for the 2005 season(The roster bonus date is usually dependent upon the date the contract was originally signed).

So by releasing Glenn, Sharper, and Foreman the Texans have prevented inflated caps numbers from soaring, because the players would not rework their deals to match their current impact on the team. In the end, nobody wins. The Texans lose veteran leadership and the players get less money.
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with who? The FA's? they are going for the money, mainly. Or their agents are. Their agents are going for the money AND the headlines if possible. Do you really think that somewhere down the road one of the players are going to turn down money cause they wanted to play for the Texans due to their reputation as being classy? PUUULLLEEEEZZE. These players know that the NFL stands for Not For Long and they had better grab all the Greenbacks they can WHILE they can.

Class for the fans. Yeah. The Fans seem to be just estatic over the Sharper and Glenn cuts being done with so much Class that has been shown. I can just see all the threads on here talking about what a Class act that was.

The 'you can never go wrong by doing what's right' motto of Bob McNair? That is the ONLY thing I can see actually applying here. I hope that he see's how right this is, when the Cowboys don't even spend a day taking Glenn. And Sharper was signed in about a week. Sure am glad those washed up has been, or never was type players got cut early in the year and the Texans did it with such CLASS.

are you kidding me?
ok! pretend you are a player. you have a choice between two organizations. one team is known for being fair, treating there players with class. you talk to some of your boy's you know on the team and they tell you what a great place this is and you will be treated fair. next team just the opposite. the guys on this team tell you that you will get screwed first chance they get. where you gonna go?
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OK so if that holds true why are glenn and coleman still not members of the Jets secondary.

These Players are good but obviously have either lost a step, or are just above average starters at their position. Sure other teams are going to scoop them up quick.

But look at the difference in the amounts being paid there vs. If they stayed here. You do it with class so that while the employment market is busy they can get a job.

Again this is not the NFL we grew up with anymore. This is the business NFL players dont draft and retire with the same team like they used too. You have 2 choices in the business NFL. Build throught the draft and have more winning seasons. or You can build your team with a bunch of Big Name Free Agents and shoot for the superbowl and then deal with contracts.

teams that took the first choice
Patriots, Bengals, Steelers, Bills, Jaguars, Colts

Teams that took the second choice
Redskins, Raiders, Titans, Buccaneers, Dolphins, Cowboys

Im kinda like the fact we took the first choice compared to the teams that took choice 2
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where am I gonna go? Well in the days of yesteryear, I would take the team with the most potential to get to the Superbowl or the one with the most Class that I enjoyed the comraderie of. HOWEVER, this ain't the Yesteryear generation. This IS the Salary Cap Generation. So I am going to the one that puts the biggest number first AND add's the most zero's after it. The salary of the players is what determines which team the player goes to. More specifically the size of the 'signing bonus' as this is the only guaranteed paycheck I am going to get. NOT the classyness of the organization. Now hypothetically if two teams offer the exact same deal, or close enough to not really matter, then yes, your argument holds water. Now how many FA's can you name that picked the team they ended up with due to CLASS and not Salary. That is why they have auctioneer's, commanly referred to as AGENTS, who put their FA player up on the auction block and start taking bids.

Should Glenn and even Sharper be very thankfull that the Texans allowed them the luxery of being released at a premium FA market time? You bet. Now anyone of you think that they are going to talk about that and NOT how they were replaced by other FA players when there was no definite need for it to happen. There really wasn't a team need to release Glenn. His salary cap hit as an active player wasn't much higher than his dead cap space. So WHY NOW? Why let a player who is not really going to hurt you salary cap wise much differently either way go? Why turn him into a FA when it doesn't do the team any good?
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AG asked for his release; according to AG on 610 afternoon show (Tuesday) Texans wanted him to stay on. As someone said earlier, AG was probably afraid he would get cut; this way he can control his destiny.

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Not sure if it was also posted before, but AG said the Texans told him a while back that they might be looking at a corner in the draft. From what Aaron said, he would probably have stayed on if they brought in a rookie corner but when they got Buchanon, he decided not to take the reduced role here. Aaron was making it sound as if he couldn't beat out Faggins, much less Buchanon.
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Not sure if it was also posted before, but AG said the Texans told him a while back that they might be looking at a corner in the draft. From what Aaron said, he would probably have stayed on if they brought in a rookie corner but when they got Buchanon, he decided not to take the reduced role here. Aaron was making it sound as if he couldn't beat out Faggins, much less Buchanon.
I'm not sure if that's high praise for PB and Faggins, or if it indicates that Glenn feels he's not as good as he was a couple years ago. Interesting stuff.
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Not sure if it was also posted before, but AG said the Texans told him a while back that they might be looking at a corner in the draft. From what Aaron said, he would probably have stayed on if they brought in a rookie corner but when they got Buchanon, he decided not to take the reduced role here. Aaron was making it sound as if he couldn't beat out Faggins, much less Buchanon.
If that is the case, then I am dancing more than ever before. Not so much for PB, but if that is AG's take on how much more improved Faggin's is it bodes extremely well for us.
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Or maybe it could be that he didn't mind a pupil rather than a rival.
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no one gets a guaranteed salary. the signing bonus is the guaranteed part of the contract. this is more of a question than a bold statement.
Drew Henson got guaranteed money on his contract. It is common but it does happen. It is especially true of big names. T.O. signed a bad contract with Philly. He is trying to get more of the money guaranteed on it.
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