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Old 11-06-2011   #41
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it also speaks volumes to me that the team continues to buy into what kubiak is selling. no offseason, new defense, foster out, mario out, andre out ... and we play strong each week. it also continues to impress me that kubiak is leading our offense with 1/4 of the resources continually provided to the defense. stop to think about what this offense will look like when our defense provides the luxury of drafting a WR in the first round instead of searching for TE's in the 4th.
Very good points, all true.

But I always put things in perspective according to what I would do. If I were an offensive guru & I wanted to win football games, I would have put a lot more early draft picks on offense.

Like I'd been saying all year last year, a great offense can, at times, be your best defense. We've seen elite offenses win with historically poor defenses. The last two years, our defense has been good enough that if we had an offense that could chew up clock & score at a high efficiency rate, our defense could sell out & get more three & outs like they did in 2009 & at times throughout 2010..... that's the way the Colts are built. That's what I would have done.

This way works too... dump all your draft picks on defense then finally get a defensive coach & bam....... no offseason, screwed up free agency & your defense comes out of nowhere & you take a complete team into the play-offs...

But I doubt that's the way he drew it up.
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Are we winning in spite of Kubiak or because of Kubiak?
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I lost faith is Kubes last year after years of support, but I got on the bandwagon in the preseason. We haven't won any Superbowls just yet, but man Team WARY is looking good right now. If Gary can keep the running game going and get the 80 Beast back, this could be a fun January!!!!!
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I'm glad Bob McNair is our owner,

And I'm glad he didn't fire Gary.
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i still think kubiak has what it takes to be the top guy

it also speaks volumes to me that the team continues to buy into what kubiak is selling. no offseason, new defense, foster out, mario out, andre out ... and we play strong each week. it also continues to impress me that kubiak is leading our offense with 1/4 of the resources continually provided to the defense. stop to think about what this offense will look like when our defense provides the luxury of drafting a WR in the first round instead of searching for TE's in the 4th.
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Are we winning in spite of Kubiak or because of Kubiak?
Are you taking a poll of something?
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Bob McNair called the team out after the BAL game...

Texans haven't lost since.
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I think it may be a little early to say "I'm glad". I'm happy with how the season has gone so far but like a lot of fans, I know how quickly the whole thing can go south. So I'm not prepared to call this season a complete success, yet.
THIS ^^^^.

My signature image comes down when he's either fired OR he leads us to at least a single playoff game.

And everyone can forget about asking me if it can be taken down if he wins our division this year: The AFC South title is being gift-wrapped on multiple levels for him. It's a given.

Therefore, can he win a playoff game? If not, I'm game for keeping the offense as it is (retaining Dennison) and having Bob only consider HC candidates (Bill Cowher) who know you don't mess with what's not broken. Bill Cowher is smart enough to know that we're just a solid defense and a solid HC away from a dynasty here...and we already have the solid defense IMO. Add some Cowher 34 Defense wrinkles to it, and whammo!
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Jim Harbaugh's in his first year as head coach, and he's pulling a 7-1
right now with less talent than Kubiak has had. Alex frickin Smith
is his quarterback. I don't wanna hear about how Kubiak is "vindicated"
because of his 2011 start. Hell naw.

My mind will change about Kubiak when he delivers a 2011 AFC Championship
Game appearance. Wade Phillips is allowing Kubiak's mistakes not be able
to to f-up the team's won/loss.

It is what it is.
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THIS ^^^^.

My signature image comes down when he's either fired OR he leads us to at least a single playoff game.

And everyone can forget about asking me if it can be taken down if he wins our division this year: The AFC South title is being gift-wrapped on multiple levels for him. It's a given.
Do you see how these two statements contradict each other?

If he leads us to a play off game...... you'll take down your sig (as if anyone cares).

You won't take it down if we win the division....

aren't they the same thing?

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Do you see how these two statements contradict each other?

If he leads us to a play off game...... you'll take down your sig (as if anyone cares).

You won't take it down if we win the division....

aren't they the same thing?

Winning the division in 2011 does not have the same ring as having
won it in 2010. For obvious reasons Mr. Devil's Advocate.
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Jim Harbaugh's in his first year as head coach, and he's pulling a 7-1
right now with less talent than Kubiak has had. Alex frickin Smith
is his quarterback. I don't wanna hear about how Kubiak is "vindicated"
because of his 2011 start. Hell naw.
I know that W-L are all that matters.

But, do you think the 49ers would be 7-1 if they played our schedule?
Saints, Steelers, Ravens ?

The only team they've played even remotely in that "class" is Detroit & that is starting to look suspect.

Another thing, would you be giving Kubiak credit for going 7-1 against the:
Seahawks - W
Cowboys - L
Bengals - W
Philly - W
Tampa - W
Detroit - W
Cleveland - W
Washington - W


None of those teams are going anywhere.
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Winning the division in 2011 does not have the same ring as having
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Winning the division in 2011 does not have the same ring as having
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And once again your post reveals the extent of your reading comprehension skills.

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So you noticed it too?
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I don't want to go here right now. I'm in a good mood and enjoying the win.

But...

Gary is still Gary. When you see the Texans down inside the 5 and they're running all over the Browns but suddenly throw the ball three straight times despite the fact that the field is small down there and the Browns are glued to everyone we send out..... that's Gary. Every time I see the Texans inexplicably abandon something that's working and then try to force something over and over again I think "**** you Gary". Every single time.

Now back to enjoying myself.

Ugh, not this BS again. How long ago was it that everybody was yelling at Kubiak for running the ball TOO MUCH in the red zone ("blah blah blah, our offense isn't built to run in short yardage")? once again, i refer all to the intergalactic football glossary for clarification of your point: "a bad play is a play that didn't work. a good play is one that worked."
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I know that W-L are all that matters.

But, do you think the 49ers would be 7-1 if they played our schedule?
Saints, Steelers, Ravens ?

The only team they've played even remotely in that "class" is Detroit & that is starting to look suspect.

Another thing, would you be giving Kubiak credit for going 7-1 against the:
Seahawks - W
Cowboys - L
Bengals - W
Philly - W
Tampa - W
Detroit - W
Cleveland - W
Washington - W


None of those teams are going anywhere.
The Texans had a similar schedule in 2009, and stumbled,
fumbled, and snickers-added their way to 9-7. They
started 5-7 that year. Remember?

I already know what Kubiak would do if Wade weren't here.
As I said before, it is what it is. Let's just enjoy the ride
without providing unnecessary extras to Kubiak.
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I disagree. It's not time to revisit McNair's decision. Nothing's been decided, one way or the other. It is time to enjoy the Texans 1.5 game lead in the AFC South.
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Do you see how these two statements contradict each other?

If he leads us to a play off game...... you'll take down your sig (as if anyone cares).

You won't take it down if we win the division....

aren't they the same thing?

You conveniently left out the next section of my post where I asked "Can he win a playoff game?"

And you're lecturing Dexman about HIS reading comprehension?

Everyone knows the rub: The AFC South SHOULD BE ours for the taking. It's that first-ever Houston Texans playoff game where shit gets real that's the clincher for me on whether Kubiak is for real or not.

And I'm not moving goal posts here. I think Kubiak has it in him to find a way to seriously screw up the AFC South crown, somehow managing to let the Titans sneak away with it...meanwhile, the AFC North has three legitimate teams who could end up with two wild card berths! I have seen stranger stuff happen, such as 35-3 halftime vs. Bills. Nobody needs to be penciling in the Texans for playoffs just yet.

Kubiak will have his hands full finishing off the AFC South crown. Then the playoff game will carry so much pressure with it, it won't even be funny. he pulls off a playoff win, my sig image comes down. Until then, he is what he is.
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The Texans had a similar schedule in 2009, and stumbled,
fumbled, and snickers-added their way to 9-7. They
started 5-7 that year. Remember?

I already know what Kubiak would do if Wade weren't here.
As I said before, it is what it is. Let's just enjoy the ride
without providing unnecessary extras to Kubiak.
The 2009 schedule was nothing like that.


L - NYJets 9-7 (AFC Championship game)
W - Titans 8-8
L - Jags 7-9
W - Oak 5-11
L - Cards 10-6 (NFC Champs)
W - Bengals 10-6 (AFC North Champs)
W - 49ers 8-8
W - Bills 6-10

We started 5-3, beating the Bengals on the road, losing to two very good teams, the Jets (AFC Championship game) & the Cardinals (Super Bowl)

GK doesn't write the schedule & the schedule this early in the season doesn't mean crap..... The 49ers & Harbaugh will play the Ravens, Steelers, & Giants this year, I guarantee you they won't beat one of them.

Matter of fact, I will bet, whatever you want, they'll get blown out in both games they play the @Ravens & have the Steelers at home if that helps you out any.


We're 5-3, losing to the Saints, the Ravens, & the Raiders. It's nothing about Harbaugh that put the Steelers, Ravens, & Giants on the back end of their schedule.

& as far as that loss to the Jags, I bet the 49ers will lose a game to the Cardinals & the Rams.
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