Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQDonate Automatic Monthly Contribution Members List Mark Forums Read


Texans Talk Football talk only please. Keep it to the game, the players, the coaches and management.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-04-2011   #1
Lady.Gaga.3000
Veteran
 
Lady.Gaga.3000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 179
Rep Power: 418 Lady.Gaga.3000 is a quality contributor and well respectedLady.Gaga.3000 is a quality contributor and well respectedLady.Gaga.3000 is a quality contributor and well respectedLady.Gaga.3000 is a quality contributor and well respectedLady.Gaga.3000 is a quality contributor and well respectedLady.Gaga.3000 is a quality contributor and well respectedLady.Gaga.3000 is a quality contributor and well respectedLady.Gaga.3000 is a quality contributor and well respectedLady.Gaga.3000 is a quality contributor and well respectedLady.Gaga.3000 is a quality contributor and well respectedLady.Gaga.3000 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Remember when we hated our pass defense?

Well statistically New England is worse than we were last year so far. Found this on ESPN:

"Whereas New England's defense typically has been one of the league's most reliable units, this season it has been anything but.
New England now ranks last in the NFL in total defense and pass defense. Through seven games, New England has allowed 2,969 total yards, which is the fourth-worst defensive performance since the merger in 1970. The only teams that have allowed more yards through seven games were the 2002 Chiefs (3,087 yards), the 1976 Chiefs (3,058) and the 2005 49ers (2,991)."

The Patriots are 5-2 through 7 games. They have played one gimme game the first week @ Miami. After that, they have played the Charger, @ Bills, @ Raiders, Jets, Cowboys, and @ Steelers.

I would say the only game they truly lost because of their pass defense was the 34-31 loss at Buffalo. New England was up 21-0 and seemed to stop playing after that. (Sound familiar?)

You can probably tell where I am going with this in relation to last year. We had what seemed like the worst pass defense since sliced bread was invented.

The only playoff teams the Texans beat last year were the Colts (who destroyed us in the rematch) and Chiefs (Where we got that nice no-call from the refs on Andre Johnson's TD catch). However, a win is a win and a loss is a loss, so I must ask why the Patriots are winning with a horible pass defense and why were the Texans losing with a horrible pass defense, aka our favorite scapegoat of 2010. Is there a deeper problem in this team than CB #2-4 or WR #2-5?
Lady.Gaga.3000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2011   #2
badboy
Site Contributor
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Clear Lake
Posts: 23,867
Rep Power: 181199 badboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

I remember & it was justified too. Speaking of Justified, when does that program come back on?
__________________
I want to be able to recognize the difference between a "want" and a "need" and then I want to be satisfied with getting a need
badboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2011   #3
thunderkyss 
& so it begins
 
thunderkyss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Texas
Age: 42
Posts: 35,736
Rep Power: 296677 thunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via Yahoo to thunderkyss
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

I was screaming this last season. Sure, the defense was bad. But the offense was supposed to be elite. However, we couldn't score efficiently or when it mattered. We couldn't keep opposing offenses off the field.

The Giants game was what? 24-3 at halftime? Defensively we started the third qtr with three back to back turnovers. The game should have been 24-24 to start the 4th Qtr. But we only scored on one of those turnovers. 27-10. We didn't score another point the whole game.

If you've got a truly elite offense, you don't go three & out very often & your drives end with a minimum of 3 points most of the time.

An elite offense can make up for a horrendous defense. The greatest show on turf did it in the 90s, the Colts did it through the first decade of the 21st century.

We don't have an elite offense... our HC wasn't helping us any either.
__________________
thunderkyss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2011   #4
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
 
Texans_Chick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,248
Rep Power: 74671 Texans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respectedTexans_Chick is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

New England's defense was bad last year too. They were able to hide it some because their offense was so absurdly good.

Late in the season, their defense started to get it together near the end of the season so they weren't so catastrophic. But they have talent issues right now that I'm not sure coaching can fix.
__________________
More? Please check out Ultimate Texans Chronicle Blog & Steph Stradley Blog & Twitter @StephStradley
Texans_Chick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2011   #5
Lurvinator11
Hall of Fame
 
Lurvinator11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: The Woodlands/ Huntsville
Section: My Couch
Posts: 1,478
Rep Power: 12118 Lurvinator11 is a quality contributor and well respectedLurvinator11 is a quality contributor and well respectedLurvinator11 is a quality contributor and well respectedLurvinator11 is a quality contributor and well respectedLurvinator11 is a quality contributor and well respectedLurvinator11 is a quality contributor and well respectedLurvinator11 is a quality contributor and well respectedLurvinator11 is a quality contributor and well respectedLurvinator11 is a quality contributor and well respectedLurvinator11 is a quality contributor and well respectedLurvinator11 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by badboy View Post
I remember & it was justified too. Speaking of Justified, when does that program come back on?
It should come back on in februray. I love that show!
Lurvinator11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011   #6
LikeMike
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cologne, Germany
Posts: 1,160
Rep Power: 30535 LikeMike is a quality contributor and well respectedLikeMike is a quality contributor and well respectedLikeMike is a quality contributor and well respectedLikeMike is a quality contributor and well respectedLikeMike is a quality contributor and well respectedLikeMike is a quality contributor and well respectedLikeMike is a quality contributor and well respectedLikeMike is a quality contributor and well respectedLikeMike is a quality contributor and well respectedLikeMike is a quality contributor and well respectedLikeMike is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

I don`t have stats to back that up, but I think that the Patriots D is much better than our last years D in both run defense and turnovers. Winning the turnover battle is huge, and being able to stop the team on 3d and shorts as well.
LikeMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011   #7
Marcus
Hall of Fame
 
Marcus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Stafford, Texas
Age: 60
Posts: 7,827
Rep Power: 95473 Marcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

Remember when we didn't have a pass rush?

Oh wait ......

If you don't have a pass rush, the pass defense is going to suck.
If you have a pass rush, then you have pass defense.

Isn't it amazing how that works?
Marcus is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Old 11-05-2011   #8
thunderkyss 
& so it begins
 
thunderkyss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Texas
Age: 42
Posts: 35,736
Rep Power: 296677 thunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via Yahoo to thunderkyss
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
Remember when we didn't have a pass rush?

Oh wait ......

If you don't have a pass rush, the pass defense is going to suck.
If you have a pass rush, then you have pass defense.

Isn't it amazing how that works?
That's a simple way of looking at things. Mostly correct.

At the same time, your pass defense has to keep the ball in the QB hands for more than 2.6 seconds. Pass rush makes for pass defense, but pass coverage makes for a pass rush.
__________________
thunderkyss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011   #9
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
 
The Pencil Neck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Dallas, TX
Age: 52
Posts: 18,719
Rep Power: 321290 The Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by LikeMike View Post
I don`t have stats to back that up, but I think that the Patriots D is much better than our last years D in both run defense and turnovers. Winning the turnover battle is huge, and being able to stop the team on 3d and shorts as well.
OK. I just decided to throw a bunch of stats together. I decided to compare the 2011 Pats, the 2011 Texans, and the 2010 Texans. Now, it's kind of a mixed bag because the Pats have played 7 games, we've played 8, and of course, there were 16 last year.

You specifically asked about run defense, turnovers, and 3rd downs.

The 2011 Texans allow only 97.4 yards per game but that's a bit of sleight of hand. We're allowing 4.3 yards per carry. Our rush defense looks good because we're forcing people to pass. The 2011 Patriots are allowing 101 yards per game and they're also allowing 4.3 yards per carry. The 2010 Texans allowed more yards per game (109.4) but we only gave up 4.0 yards per carry. So the 2011 Texans were more stout against the run BUT probably because we were behind, people were pounding the rock on us to chew up time.

The 2011 Texans get 0.5 fumbles per game and 1.25 interceptions per game. The Patriots get 0.57 fumbles per game and 1.29 interceptions per game. The 2010 Texans were teh suck, getting only 0.31 fumbles per game and only 0.81 interceptions per game. Those turnover stats can have a huge impact on a game. We've improved but it would be nice to get better at those stats.

The 2011 Texans allow a 1st down on 32% of 3rd downs. That's really good and ties us for 3rd in the league with the Jets. The 2010 Texans allowed a 1st down on 40% of 3rd downs -- tied for 23rd. The 2011 Patriots allow a 1st down on 46 percent of 3rd downs, that's 30th in the league. So the Patriots are worse at getting teams off the field than we were last year and last year, we weren't great.

Another thing I looked at was the number of touchdown passes allowed per interception. The 2011 Patriots allow 1.3 TDs for every interception. The 2010 Texans allowed a HORRIBLE 2.5 TDs per interception. The 2011 Texans are only allowing 0.9 TD's per interception.

So, to answer the question, the Pats D is better at getting turnovers than our team was last year. It's worse against the run but so far, that weakness against the run has been shielded.
__________________
Adoptee: #55 - Chris Myers.
The Pencil Neck is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011   #10
Marcus
Hall of Fame
 
Marcus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Stafford, Texas
Age: 60
Posts: 7,827
Rep Power: 95473 Marcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respectedMarcus is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderkyss View Post
That's a simple way of looking at things. Mostly correct.

At the same time, your pass defense has to keep the ball in the QB hands for more than 2.6 seconds. Pass rush makes for pass defense, but pass coverage makes for a pass rush.
I have always fundamentally disagreed with that, because it's, well .... for the lack of better words .... bassackwards.

If you don't get pressure on the QB, it doesn't really matter if the secondary is full of Pro-Bowlers. If you allow that QB to stand back there unpressured, eventually he will find someone open, no matter how good the coverage is from the secondary.

By the same token, if the QB is constantly being pressured, hurried, and sacked by by a good pass rush, the secondary doesn't need to be all that good. What goes on upfront, in the trenches, determines how good the secondary will play, or rather, it will determine how easy, or how hard of job the secondary has.
Marcus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011   #11
ArlingtonTexan
Moderator
 
ArlingtonTexan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 47
Posts: 6,056
Rep Power: 73193 ArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respectedArlingtonTexan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

Well, yeah now there is only some hate for our 2nd/3rd corners and that depends who is talking and who is being talked about.
__________________
It doesn't just seem like I was talking down to people, I was. (Runner 8/4/09).
ArlingtonTexan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011   #12
thunderkyss 
& so it begins
 
thunderkyss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Texas
Age: 42
Posts: 35,736
Rep Power: 296677 thunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via Yahoo to thunderkyss
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
I have always fundamentally disagreed with that, because it's, well .... for the lack of better words .... bassackwards.

If you don't get pressure on the QB, it doesn't really matter if the secondary is full of Pro-Bowlers. If you allow that QB to stand back there unpressured, eventually he will find someone open, no matter how good the coverage is from the secondary.

By the same token, if the QB is constantly being pressured, hurried, and sacked by by a good pass rush, the secondary doesn't need to be all that good. What goes on upfront, in the trenches, determines how good the secondary will play, or rather, it will determine how easy, or how hard of job the secondary has.
I agree completely, but your pass coverage has to allow time for the pass rush to get to the QB. If the QB is allowed to go to his first read every time, then no matter how good the rush, it won't ever get there.

Rookie QBs can come in to the game & look like HOFers, because he's not having to go through his progression, first read & dunk works well against poor pass coverage & the pass rush is a non-factor.

But it is true, like you said, no coverage can hold up for too long.

So it's got to be good enough to hold for just under 3 seconds... say 2.8 and your pass rush has got to get there within 4 seconds.

Vs Tennessee, Hasselbeck threw the ball in the dirt twice, because the coverage was too good & the pass rush would have got to him if he hadn't got rid of it. The pass rush didn't affect his decision as much as the tight coverage, in years prior, Hasselbeck would have eaten us alive.
__________________
thunderkyss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011   #13
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
 
The Pencil Neck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Dallas, TX
Age: 52
Posts: 18,719
Rep Power: 321290 The Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
I have always fundamentally disagreed with that, because it's, well .... for the lack of better words .... bassackwards.

If you don't get pressure on the QB, it doesn't really matter if the secondary is full of Pro-Bowlers. If you allow that QB to stand back there unpressured, eventually he will find someone open, no matter how good the coverage is from the secondary.

By the same token, if the QB is constantly being pressured, hurried, and sacked by by a good pass rush, the secondary doesn't need to be all that good. What goes on upfront, in the trenches, determines how good the secondary will play, or rather, it will determine how easy, or how hard of job the secondary has.
Actually, it's not.

If you've got a bunch of defensive backs that give a 10-15 yard cushion or who can't cover their man for a couple of seconds, then the QB can beat the rush. You could have the best pass rush in the world but if there aren't any DBs covering anyone, the QB will just hit short pass after pass. Or if the DBs miss their jams, the WRs can run right past them and the QB can put the ball out there and let them run under it.

If you've got great coverage, it gives your rush more time to get there. That's why you sometimes see QBs sitting back there looking for a reciever, checking this route, and this route, and this route, and then they're sacked. Similarly, a defense can drop 8 and rush 3 and if those 8 can blanket the receivers, that 3 man rush can sometimes work its way to the QB and get the sack.

Great pass defense is all about mixing up whether you're relying on the rush or relying on the DBs and having the option to go either way. You can go 0 coverage and bring the house to get to the QB as quickly as possible BUT your DBs have to get up and take away the short passes for it to work. Or you can drop everyone back and just rush a couple of guys and take away all receivers. Or you can do stuff in between.
__________________
Adoptee: #55 - Chris Myers.
The Pencil Neck is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011   #14
hradhak
Site Contributor
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,599
Rep Power: 8443 hradhak is a quality contributor and well respectedhradhak is a quality contributor and well respectedhradhak is a quality contributor and well respectedhradhak is a quality contributor and well respectedhradhak is a quality contributor and well respectedhradhak is a quality contributor and well respectedhradhak is a quality contributor and well respectedhradhak is a quality contributor and well respectedhradhak is a quality contributor and well respectedhradhak is a quality contributor and well respectedhradhak is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

I think one thing that has exacerbated the "worst pass defense" moniker is that teams are throwing a lot more than they have in the past. This year it's even more than last year, but the trend is towards much more throwing.

Even so, it's good to see that Wade Phillips was able to turn it around so quickly, with no offseason to speak of. It seems like as our personnel gets more familiar with the playbook, we will get better on defense.
hradhak is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011   #15
badboy
Site Contributor
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Clear Lake
Posts: 23,867
Rep Power: 181199 badboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respectedbadboy is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

Can we turn this into a Kareem Jackson thread?
__________________
I want to be able to recognize the difference between a "want" and a "need" and then I want to be satisfied with getting a need
badboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011   #16
thunderkyss 
& so it begins
 
thunderkyss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Texas
Age: 42
Posts: 35,736
Rep Power: 296677 thunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via Yahoo to thunderkyss
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by badboy View Post
Can we turn this into a Kareem Jackson thread?
Kareem Jackson is starting on the #3 defense in the league......


How was that?
__________________
thunderkyss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2011   #17
ADTpaul
ADT Security
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Houston-DFW
Posts: 72
Rep Power: 36 ADTpaul is a quality contributor and well respectedADTpaul is a quality contributor and well respectedADTpaul is a quality contributor and well respectedADTpaul is a quality contributor and well respectedADTpaul is a quality contributor and well respectedADTpaul is a quality contributor and well respectedADTpaul is a quality contributor and well respectedADTpaul is a quality contributor and well respectedADTpaul is a quality contributor and well respectedADTpaul is a quality contributor and well respectedADTpaul is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

He did come from the best of conferences, the SEC. Man his alma mater, Alabama played a great game against LSU tonight, but lost 9 to 6 in OT. Crazy score eh? All field goals!
ADTpaul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2011   #18
Quick II Draw
Veteran
 
Quick II Draw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 124
Rep Power: 2096 Quick II Draw is a quality contributor and well respectedQuick II Draw is a quality contributor and well respectedQuick II Draw is a quality contributor and well respectedQuick II Draw is a quality contributor and well respectedQuick II Draw is a quality contributor and well respectedQuick II Draw is a quality contributor and well respectedQuick II Draw is a quality contributor and well respectedQuick II Draw is a quality contributor and well respectedQuick II Draw is a quality contributor and well respectedQuick II Draw is a quality contributor and well respectedQuick II Draw is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady.Gaga.3000 View Post

... why the Patriots are winning with a horible pass defense and why were the Texans losing with a horrible pass defense ...
Tom Brady

/thread
Quick II Draw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2011   #19
TejasTom
Heisenwatt
 
TejasTom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Pearland
Section: Brazos Suite
Posts: 1,454
Rep Power: 59017 TejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Remember when we hated our pass defense?

Quote:
Originally Posted by badboy View Post
I remember & it was justified too. Speaking of Justified, when does that program come back on?
Great show, almost as good as our defense. I looked earlier this week on the show website and there was nothing about the date for season 3 yet.
__________________
"Success isn't owned. It's leased and rent is due every day." ~ J.J. Watt
TejasTom is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger