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Did Schaub not think that the linebacker might have designs on getting back up and unloading on him on that fumble play?

He obviously saw him before the back blocked him, but the clock in his head should have sped up considerably at that point.

A win is a win, but between that play and the surefire interception that the db blundered into a Dressen touchdown, Schaub sure made things interesting single-handedly.
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Did Schaub not think that the linebacker might have designs on getting back up and unloading on him on that fumble play?

He obviously saw him before the back blocked him, but the clock in his head should have sped up considerably at that point.

A win is a win, but between that play and the surefire interception that the db blundered into a Dressen touchdown, Schaub sure made things interesting single-handedly.
I will say this..... Sessions made a hell of a play in that situation. I don't think Schaub anticipated him getting off the ground as quick as he did. Have to give props where props are due on that one.
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Did Schaub not think that the linebacker might have designs on getting back up and unloading on him on that fumble play?

He obviously saw him before the back blocked him, but the clock in his head should have sped up considerably at that point.

A win is a win, but between that play and the surefire interception that the db blundered into a Dressen touchdown, Schaub sure made things interesting single-handedly.
There were too many breakdowns on that play to blame Schaub for anything that happened there. We were struggling on offense, he was trying to make a play.... I commend him for it.

2009... that's the Matt Schaub I want to see. Same situation as the one you're discussing, the 2009 Schaub would have made something happen there.

I think.

But I still wouldn't "blame" Matt on that play.
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Default Re: Schaub's Awareness

Schaub has a slow releae. He was preparing to pass but couldn't get it off. Speednup the release and at worst that's a tuck rule incompletion.
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No doubt Session made a nice play there.

Once Schaub's plant foot hit the 35, the ball should have been out, thrown over Walter's head and out of bounds. He took that extra shuffle step forward and to the right, thinking that Session was going to stay on the ground I guess?
I'm not sure.
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No doubt Session made a nice play there.

Once Schaub's plant foot hit the 35, the ball should have been out, thrown over Walter's head and out of bounds. He took that extra shuffle step forward and to the right, thinking that Session was going to stay on the ground I guess?
I'm not sure.
Matt definitely has some brain farts during most games. One of the plays that frustrated me is he got lazy with a screen pass that was tipped and could have easily been intercepted. He had an off day yesterday for sure.
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Yeah...

Matt should have done something different than what he did.

Maybe he thought it was like a movie where a guy gets knocked to the ground and never gets back up...

Taking a sack is one thing....but to fumble is just stupid.
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Texans have struggled at times in pass protection this year. There was a period in the Miami game were Schaub was getting hit a lot. They really struggled against the Raiders. There were times yesterday as well. The running game wasn't working well for a period, and that's why the Texans tried to throw deep a few times to loosen up the Jags front seven.

The bottom line is Texans found a way to win and thats all that mattered.
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A little off topic, but this was Matt's 3rd game in a row without throwing an INT.

In the big picture, this is a good thing.
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A little off topic, but this was Matt's 3rd game in a row without throwing an INT.

In the big picture, this is a good thing.
His completion percentage is pretty poor though...

He's gonna have to get that up some...
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Did Schaub not think that the linebacker might have designs on getting back up and unloading on him on that fumble play?

He obviously saw him before the back blocked him, but the clock in his head should have sped up considerably at that point.

A win is a win, but between that play and the surefire interception that the db blundered into a Dressen touchdown, Schaub sure made things interesting single-handedly.
Dude, you're an *****... it was a play designed to go deep & Walter hadn't even gotten back to where he needed to be as you can see that from the shot of the play behind schaub. the clock speeding up in his head would've only had schaub throwing the ball away..he obviously thought he could make something happen with it..i won't put that him.

more than anything, that was just a great play by sessions as everyone did what they were supposed to, sessions just didn't go completely down when arian cut em.
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His completion percentage is pretty poor though...

He's gonna have to get that up some...
I agree... but in our Texans' way of losing games, beating ourselves with stupid turnovers, this is a plus.

A low completion percentage in a win.. I'll take it.

But I agree there is an underlying problem that needs to be addressed.

ND Kalu was talking about how fans shouldn't be too upset when our QB doesn't have his typical game. But I'm worried about where that line is..... Schaub's typical game. He hasn't looked too hot this year.

His numbers don't look bad.. averages for this season. a 95 QB rating, 60% completion, 13 TDs 5 Ints ( works out to 26 & 10 for the year... )... I guess maybe we're just expecting too much from him. But he's looked a lot better in years past.
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His completion percentage is pretty poor though...

He's gonna have to get that up some...
u don't think that that has anything to do with his true #1 WR going down though?
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u don't think that that has anything to do with his true #1 WR going down though?
Look, this isn't a pile on Schaub kind of post. It's true, honest criticism. Matt's a probowler, we've got two other probowlers on the field, Arian & OD.... & KDub is money.

We're talking about going deep in the play-offs, & we're going to need Schaub to play better with or without Andre.

Rey isn't being hateful.
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u don't think that that has anything to do with his true #1 WR going down though?
Tavaris Jackson, Cam Newton, Donavan McNabb all have higher completion percentages than Matt.

Something is wrong.

And I'm not saying I don't like Schaub...I'm just saying that he needs to step his game up a bit to give us a better shot at winning games now and in the future..

Really, other than Matt who is performing below what you'd typically expect of them?

We actually have a lot of guys exceeding expectations.

Good QB play can take you a looooooooooooooong way...I hope like hell that Kubiak is being hard on Schaub and trying to get him to raise the level of his play.
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Look, this isn't a pile on Schaub kind of post. It's true, honest criticism. Matt's a probowler, we've got two other probowlers on the field, Arian & OD.... & KDub is money.

We're talking about going deep in the play-offs, & we're going to need Schaub to play better with or without Andre.

Rey isn't being hateful.
Uhhh...what are you flying off the handle for? that was just an honest question i had for him...relax.

as for your post Rey, no i believe he can play better but i believe he's got a little shoulder issue that he's playing through (evidenced by the kinesiotape). Hopefully the bye helps him heal up a bit.
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My first thought was to blame Schaub for being a dumbass and not paying attention.. but I backed it up a time or two and thought about it a little more, and though Schaub has to take some blame on the play, it was just a great defensive play... it's not like Schaub ignored the defender and said "well I can just stand here three more seconds and nothing will happen", he was about to launch the ball...

great defensive play mostly...
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Uhhh...what are you flying off the handle for? that was just an honest question i had for him...relax.
About the Andre thing....

I think that hurts the whole offense...Not just Schaub...Defenses had to pay special attention to him...

I actually like the fact that Schaub has been forced to look for other guys besides Dre and OD now.

When Dre comes back I expect the offense to open up and bloom like a Rose...
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About the Andre thing....

I think that hurts the whole offense...Not just Schaub...Defenses had to pay special attention to him...

I actually like the fact that Schaub has been forced to look for other guys besides Dre and OD now.

When Dre comes back I expect the offense to open up and bloom like a Rose...
Not that I want to jinx anything, but when Andre comes back, it's going to be something else. As lucky as we've been with the schedule this year, it would appear that fate is kicking us in the gnads every where else.
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My first thought was to blame Schaub for being a dumbass and not paying attention.. but I backed it up a time or two and thought about it a little more, and though Schaub has to take some blame on the play, it was just a great defensive play... it's not like Schaub ignored the defender and said "well I can just stand here three more seconds and nothing will happen", he was about to launch the ball...

great defensive play mostly...
It's ok to take a sack there...

But you can't fumble the ball...You know the guy was chopped...It's the NFL...You have been there for what..7 years?

Schaub has to know that the athletes in the NFL can quickly recover from a chop block.....Ideal would be to keep moving towards the boundary and buy a little time...Or just take the sack and move on from there...

But you cannot leave yourself open for the sack fumble. That just was not smart.
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