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Old 10-30-2011   #1
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Why did we send the Field goal team out there on 2nd down ?????? with 10 secs we could have run another play to get it closer for Rackers ???????? a kick that he missed


THIS was a WTF Kubiak Moment IMO
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Why did we send the Field goal team out there on 2nd down ?????? with 10 secs we could have run another play to get it closer for Rackers ???????? a kick that he missed


THIS was a WTF Kubiak Moment IMO
a sack, our a completion in bounds means no points. I see why they did it. Rackers is usually money. Not kubiaks fault he missed
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Default Re: 2nd Qtr 2nd & 10 10 secs

Have no fault with Kubiak's decision making there.
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a sack, our a completion in bounds means no points. I see why they did it. Rackers is usually money. Not kubiaks fault he missed

Umm no thats why u look for a play on the sideline if its not there then Throw it into the stands

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take a shot in the end zone or quick pass then fall down or clock the ball

U seen and the end of the game Jags ran two plays with 10 seconds left dont tell me it cant be done
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Umm no thats why u look for a play on the sideline if its not there then Throw it into the stands

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take a shot in the end zone or quick pass then fall down or clock the ball

U seen and the end of the game Jags ran two plays with 10 seconds left dont tell me it cant be done
this is schaub. he usually takes a sack in situations like that
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Umm no thats why u look for a play on the sideline if its not there then Throw it into the stands

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take a shot in the end zone or quick pass then fall down or clock the ball

U seen and the end of the game Jags ran two plays with 10 seconds left dont tell me it cant be done
I agree with everyone else in that you don't take a chance there. We've given up some sacks especially in the Oakland game when we couldn't afford to take them so why risk it? We don't exactly have the best WR's on the field to be taking chances in that particular situation. 3 points was huge the way the game was playing out at that point in time and we just missed it. I think it was the right call.
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Default Re: 2nd Qtr 2nd & 10 10 secs

Sure you COULD take a risk there...go for the 7 point lead. Or you could play it a little more conservative and go for the 3 point lead.

I dont fault Kubiaks decision. This was not a case where he played it conservative in a situation where he really needed to take a risk. Id say that in this case it was about 70/30 in favor of the move he made. He COULD have gone for the endzone once...but risk an interception, or sack. Or he could have gone for the quick out to the sideline... but he was already within rackers range so that would really have been an unnecessary risk.

On second thought id say its about 90/10 in favor of the move he made.
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Why did we send the Field goal team out there on 2nd down ?????? with 10 secs we could have run another play to get it closer for Rackers ???????? a kick that he missed


THIS was a WTF Kubiak Moment IMO
I said pretty much that in the gamethread and was disagreed with. Thing is I didn't think they HAD to run another play. I'm very much in favor of trying for the three and getting in the locker room so I understood why the idea didn't seem popular.

After thinking about it, the likelihood of something going wrong, or worse, was greater than the likelihood of getting much of anything better than a FG by running one more play. I'm mainly posting to tell you you were not alone in the way you thought. I was there originally but have changed my stance after some thought.
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Default Re: 2nd Qtr 2nd & 10 10 secs

Had kubiak gone for it, then schaub gotten sacked, the center and schuab miss communicating leading to a fumble, false start by the offense leading to -5 yards thus leading to a missed FG (we wouldnt have known rackers would have missed where he was).

Or ANYTHING else that would have gone wrong and the time ran out without us getting a FG......you would be making a thread complaining about "WHY DIDNT THEY JUST KICK IT WITH 10 SECONDS LEFT!"

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Had no problem with that decision at all.
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Default Re: 2nd Qtr 2nd & 10 10 secs

Ok so say its our first playoff game end of the 2nd qtr we are tied up 14 to 14 u dont want to take no chances because yall are afriad of what Might Happen ?????

How do u know its going to happen if u never try ?????? **** dat
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Default Re: 2nd Qtr 2nd & 10 10 secs

Something as small as a slip or a bobbled snap and you have no chance for points. It was the right call. Just a bad kick
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Elite teams us every chance they can get to score points and know how to use every second of the clock

many times this attitude has came back to cost the texans Games
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My only problem was that Schaub didn't wait a few seconds longer to take the snap and stop the clock. He should have run the clock down to about 4 seconds before snapping the ball.

But making a desperate play at the end of the first half would have been a poor decision. The decision to kick at that point was good.
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Elite teams us every chance they can get to score points and know how to use every second of the clock

many times this attitude has came back to cost the texans Games
Elite teams don't make desperate plays when it's not a desperate situation. Playing for a field goal at that point is a good move.

Trying to run one more pass play with 10 seconds left on the clock is a desperation play.
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The difference is we can trust the defense this year. Our D is actually a quality D. When that's the case you take points because even less than 7 gives you a chance. Last year's D you have to take a shot because 24 pts doesn't get it done.

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Ok so say its our first playoff game end of the 2nd qtr we are tied up 14 to 14 u dont want to take no chances because yall are afriad of what Might Happen ?????

How do u know its going to happen if u never try ?????? **** dat
In that same set of circumstances in a playoff game, I would expect the same decision.

- No timeouts
- 10 secs left in the half
- just drove down the field to get in FG range
- BUT you're still about 30 yds away from the endzone

The field position thing would swing the decision for me because if we were inside the 10 where you could run a quick fade or quick slant, I'd be on your side and take a shot.
But from that far out, you'd probably burn up the 10 secs left waiting for your guys to get in the endzone AND get open AND for Schaub to see him and make the throw - cause if I'm the opposing D coordinator, I'm dropping four DBs in the endzone.

Remember if they get tackled short you come up with nothing because you won't have time to get everyone back to the line so you can spike the ball to stop the clock.

So yeah I'm taking the 3 points and go into the locker room with the lead and the momentum.
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That is primte time for the trademarked SSTOTG aka Schaub's ****ty Throw of The Game.

Regardless of the half, the game, pre/regular/post season you play to win the game. You play. To win. The game. Kick the FG.
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Kubiak made the right call, go for the field goal.

With 10 seconds left, on the 28 yard line, sure that's enough time to take a shot at the end zone. But the odds of something bad happening is much higher than something good happening.

Rackers from 46 yards, I'd say, is about 95%. If we do a quick out and try to get Rackers another 10 yards or so, then possibly the percentage goes up to 99%. So once again, not worth that extra 4 percentage points.

With the way our defense was dominating, and our offense was struggling, you have to take the points right there.
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