Jacoby still can't catch - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

Cerberus · 10-30-2011

Yeah, maybe the sun was in his eyes, but still.

Rey · 10-30-2011

Are you talking about the underthrown pass by shammy?

Cerberus · 10-30-2011

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Originally Posted by Rey

Are you talking about the underthrown pass by shammy?

Along the sidelines? Yeah, but he still got his hands on the ball and should have caught it.

mussop · 10-30-2011

Wow I'm not a JJ fan but he's played pretty freaking good so far. It was an underthrown ball and the DB got his hands on the ball to. Could of been caught but would of been a very good catch.

TdotTexas2Step · 10-30-2011

If Jacoby can carry over his last few games when AJ comes back, he'll be a solid 3rd option. We still need that #2 though and future heir to AJ.

**eriadoc** · 10-30-2011

There are throws that a WR should catch. There are throws that a WR shouldn't be expected to catch. Then there are a whole range of balls in between that good WRs manage to fight for and come up with their fair share. JJ is not a good WR. He can come up with the ones that he's supposed to come up with, for the most part. But how many times have you seen him make a play on the ball? He doesn't attack the ball. He doesn't do the things that good WRs do. And in his 4th year, he is what he is.

MEGA SWATT · 10-30-2011

Matt couldn't throw today.

**Kimmy** · 10-30-2011

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Originally Posted by TEXANS4MARIO

Matt couldn't throw today.

But he did run in for a TD

DexmanC · 10-30-2011

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Originally Posted by Kimmy

But he did run in for a TD

I guess the Ravens game taught him a lesson. He caught a week
of hell for that. One of the Ravens said "ol' boy choked."

Luv_ya_blue · 10-30-2011

I like Jacoby...
I want to pull for him...

But eria hit it on the head...he doesn't fight for the ball. Doesn't really act like he wants the ball thrown his way--see AJ, and when it does get thrown his way, he doesn't act like he's really all that concerned with making a play.

He's an average NFL receiver at best. Many people hope that he's gonna "step up" and fill the AJ gap in his absence. He doesn't have another level to step up to...he's maxed out.

Not hatin' on JJ...I've got an autographed 8x10 of him hangin' on my wall, next to my chair. I like the guy.

srrono · 10-30-2011

**edo783** · 10-30-2011

JJ is a body catcher. He waits for the ball to come to him and then catches it against hist chest/body. That allowed the DB to get a hand in there as the ball was arriving. If he were a hand catcher, he could have reached up and snatched the ball out of the air before the DB had a chance. AJ is a hands catcher and challenges the DB for the ball by going up and getting the ball rather than waiting for it to get to him. That is a hugh difference in how well a receiver will do.

Texaninlild · 10-30-2011

Schauby was way off today. I would not put those on JJ or any of the other receivers. I grade Shammy at a D today and the receiving core a B for digging out some bad passes.

Luv_ya_blue · 10-30-2011

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Originally Posted by edo783

JJ is a body catcher. He waits for the ball to come to him and then catches it against hist chest/body. That allowed the DB to get a hand in there as the ball was arriving. If he were a hand catcher, he could have reached up and snatched the ball out of the air before the DB had a chance. AJ is a hands catcher and challenges the DB for the ball by going up and getting the ball rather than waiting for it to get to him. That is a hugh difference in how well a receiver will do.

How many, truly elite NFL WRs do you know of that are body carchers?? Most of them are hand catchers. Hence the problem...

**PapaL** · 10-30-2011

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Originally Posted by edo783

JJ is a body catcher. He waits for the ball to come to him and then catches it against hist chest/body. That allowed the DB to get a hand in there as the ball was arriving. If he were a hand catcher, he could have reached up and snatched the ball out of the air before the DB had a chance. AJ is a hands catcher and challenges the DB for the ball by going up and getting the ball rather than waiting for it to get to him. That is a hugh difference in how well a receiver will do.

This is the truth. He does the same thing w punts too.

thunderkyss · 10-30-2011

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Originally Posted by eriadoc

There are throws that a WR should catch. There are throws that a WR shouldn't be expected to catch. Then there are a whole range of balls in between that good WRs manage to fight for and come up with their fair share. JJ is not a good WR. He can come up with the ones that he's supposed to come up with, for the most part. But how many times have you seen him make a play on the ball? He doesn't attack the ball. He doesn't do the things that good WRs do. And in his 4th year, he is what he is.

I agree with the first part, but to act like Jacoby has never made a play on the ball..... damn. put down the hateraid, fill up on the koolaid.

Jacoby had a great game today. He was beating both Cox & Mathis like they stole something. Matt was just spreading the ball around too much (if you can spread it around too much).

Matt was also pressured more in this game than he was in the Titans game, probably threw him off some.

thunderkyss · 10-30-2011

On the 28 yard pass play to JJ in the 1st Qtr, JJ does a great job selling that he was going to block on the play.. Matt Play-faked to Arian.... Cox fought JJ to get inside to stop the run..... JJ skipped past him, turned around & plucked the ball out of the air. With his hands.

Then turned it up fields for 15 yards or so.

SteveSlaton20 · 10-30-2011

JJ is average, had a decent game today, but he can't go one game without having mistakes.

Braylon Edwards would've been a big upgrade to him.

Speedy · 10-30-2011

I don't think it was so much of Schaub being off. They went deep more than I've ever seem them do. Hard to have a good completion percentage on the deep stuff.

thunderkyss · 10-30-2011

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Originally Posted by SteveSlaton20

JJ is average, had a decent game today, but he can't go one game without having mistakes.

Braylon Edwards would've been a big upgrade to him.

Because Braylon doesn't drop passes right?

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10-30-2011	#1
Cerberus Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 4,454 Rep Power: 25376	Jacoby still can't catch Yeah, maybe the sun was in his eyes, but still. __________________ If you only know what you hear or read in the media, you really don't know much.

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mussop Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,315 Rep Power: 10291	Re: Jacoby still can't catch Wow I'm not a JJ fan but he's played pretty freaking good so far. It was an underthrown ball and the DB got his hands on the ball to. Could of been caught but would of been a very good catch. __________________ "I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots." Albert Einstein

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TdotTexas2Step Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 483 Rep Power: 1117	Re: Jacoby still can't catch If Jacoby can carry over his last few games when AJ comes back, he'll be a solid 3rd option. We still need that #2 though and future heir to AJ.

10-30-2011	#6
eriadoc Texan-American Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 15,313 Rep Power: 69005	Re: Jacoby still can't catch There are throws that a WR should catch. There are throws that a WR shouldn't be expected to catch. Then there are a whole range of balls in between that good WRs manage to fight for and come up with their fair share. JJ is not a good WR. He can come up with the ones that he's supposed to come up with, for the most part. But how many times have you seen him make a play on the ball? He doesn't attack the ball. He doesn't do the things that good WRs do. And in his 4th year, he is what he is. __________________ “The Conservative’s first concern will always be: Are we maximizing freedom?” - Barry Goldwater

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MEGA SWATT Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: H-Town Posts: 2,108 Rep Power: 5539	Re: Jacoby still can't catch Matt couldn't throw today.

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Rey Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 11,645 Rep Power: 46112	Are you talking about the underthrown pass by shammy?

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Luv_ya_blue 1%er Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Beaumont, TX Age: 37 Posts: 3,891 Rep Power: 21294	Re: Jacoby still can't catch I like Jacoby... I want to pull for him... But eria hit it on the head...he doesn't fight for the ball. Doesn't really act like he wants the ball thrown his way--see AJ, and when it does get thrown his way, he doesn't act like he's really all that concerned with making a play. He's an average NFL receiver at best. Many people hope that he's gonna "step up" and fill the AJ gap in his absence. He doesn't have another level to step up to...he's maxed out. Not hatin' on JJ...I've got an autographed 8x10 of him hangin' on my wall, next to my chair. I like the guy. __________________ Special Thanks to False Start for the awesome sig! U Rock!

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srrono Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,449 Rep Power: 13492	Re: Jacoby still can't catch

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edo783 Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, again. Posts: 7,700 Rep Power: 4640	Re: Jacoby still can't catch JJ is a body catcher. He waits for the ball to come to him and then catches it against hist chest/body. That allowed the DB to get a hand in there as the ball was arriving. If he were a hand catcher, he could have reached up and snatched the ball out of the air before the DB had a chance. AJ is a hands catcher and challenges the DB for the ball by going up and getting the ball rather than waiting for it to get to him. That is a hugh difference in how well a receiver will do. __________________ De Oppresso Liber

10-30-2011	#13
Texaninlild Moving forward Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mansfield, TX Age: 37 Posts: 1,376 Rep Power: 2030	Re: Jacoby still can't catch Schauby was way off today. I would not put those on JJ or any of the other receivers. I grade Shammy at a D today and the receiving core a B for digging out some bad passes. __________________

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thunderkyss Hopkins Beyatch Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pt Arthur Texas Age: 40 Posts: 25,704 Rep Power: 51478	Re: Jacoby still can't catch On the 28 yard pass play to JJ in the 1st Qtr, JJ does a great job selling that he was going to block on the play.. Matt Play-faked to Arian.... Cox fought JJ to get inside to stop the run..... JJ skipped past him, turned around & plucked the ball out of the air. With his hands. Then turned it up fields for 15 yards or so. __________________ I swear it's for real this time!

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SteveSlaton20 All Pro Join Date: Dec 2008 Age: 31 Posts: 803 Rep Power: 716	Re: Jacoby still can't catch JJ is average, had a decent game today, but he can't go one game without having mistakes. Braylon Edwards would've been a big upgrade to him. __________________

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Speedy Yeller Dweller Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Livable Forest Section: 547 - Row A - Dark Side Posts: 2,848 Rep Power: 9713	Re: Jacoby still can't catch I don't think it was so much of Schaub being off. They went deep more than I've ever seem them do. Hard to have a good completion percentage on the deep stuff. __________________ *thatsbulltailgaters.net*

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