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Old 04-26-2005   #161
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When the PB trade went down, you can't honestly tell me you didn't see AG as a salary cap casualty.
How does that happen when you don't have a cap problem THIS year.

Sounds like they took a page from the Bengal.
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How does that happen when you don't have a cap problem THIS year.

Sounds like they took a page from the Bengal.
read the post above yours... i was probably writing it as you were posting yours...
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You are getting way too melodramatic. When the PB trade went down, you can't honestly tell me you didn't see AG as a salary cap casualty. That is all that happened to Aaron Glenn. He became a salary cap casualty, nothing more nothing less. No GM in his right mind is going to pay $4 million in 2005, $4.25 million in 2006, and $5.5 million in 2007 to an aging player on the downside of his career, to be a backup or nickle back, when the eventual starting CB is only making $700,000 this year, and 800,000 the next. It's the same thing that happened Jamie Sharper. When they both were asked to restructure their contracts, and declined to do so . . they both knew what was coming.
No, I can honestly tell you that I didn't see it coming. Why the revionist history? Would you like me to pull the quotes from Capers and Casserly on this? I can if you want. They said the reason for the deal was so that we could match up with the Colts with three good corners. There is no salary cap problem. Why deal with a problem that is non existant. You guys are falling for spin, that's all. At the worst, we could have gone one more year with AG, and see if he declines further. He may no longer be All-Pro Aaron Glenn, but he still has game.
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Well if you think the defense was bad last year, wait until this one. AG might have lost a step but knew where to be and provided invaluable leadership. D-Rob will now have to step up. Buchanon is just not the player Glenn was and probably never will be. Now, he's taken his spot. The guy got torched often, trust me, I've had to watch Raider games often. We should have paid the price for AG for another year and drafted a CB in this draft, of which many felt was deep at CB.
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Will somebody with the cap #s for next year please total up the cap savings for next year with these moves?
I believe that we should see close to $10 million in cap savings next year with the releases of AG, Sharper and Foremen.
It may not be quite that much, but I think it will be close
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While it is not cool this happend, I will copy the post I left at the "other" board on this situation.

I got so much chit-ola over my defiance at the Sharper release and now folks are going over the deep end over Glenn. Both good players, both a little older, both still "had it". Both got dumped for new blood.

Now the train is filling, I used to be the only passenger. Funny how this stuff works out.

All a-board the "What in the ****?" Express. Next stop.....2 Reliant Park.
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Will somebody with the cap #s for next year please total up the cap savings for next year with these moves?
I believe that we should see close to $10 million in cap savings next year with the releases of AG, Sharper and Foremen.
It may not be quite that much, but I think it will be close
Save all the gap money you want, but you better be successfull. If not, then you did it for naught.
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The Texans are doing the right thing, New England does that every year and still get better with younger players. We have to cut down on players that cost too much to keep. If you have a good system then the players that we bring in will fill the need just the same as the top names players. New England didn't win the last superbowl with Ty Law they won it with no name corners. If we want to win and move on then we can't get too attached to our favoraite players. This is the new era of sports, the players wanted free agency and with that we kissed loyalty good bye. Get used to it. Maybe David Carr is next if he doesn't get to the next level.
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Save all the gap money you want, but you better be successfull. If not, then you did it for naught.
That's true of every single move a GM makes.
Personally, if the choices are keeping the older players and maintaining the mediocre defense that we had, OR letting the new blood get accustomed to our system and having a whole lot more cap room for FAs in 2006, then I choose the latter. We are not going to the SuperBowl in 2005, but with these moves, I think we can be a real playoff threat in 2006.
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the young players thing is the key to the Eagles and Patriots success. You keep bringing in young players.. as many as you can.. stockpile picks. When your veteran contracts are up.. let em go.. you will have a quality young player behind them, and the compensatory picks next year for the FA you lost.

Not necessarily how I would want us to run things.. but to a limited degree this seems like a good way to go about doing business in the current era of the NFL.
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The Texans are doing the right thing, New England does that every year and still get better with younger players.
The Bengals do that also. That is a very fine lin.
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The Bengals are actually doing better now that they are getting rid off old players that cost too much and had losing attitudes. They got rid of most of the high draft picks from the past.
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Yesterday there was a thread that said he could be gona as soon as today (my Bday) so I was wondering what was up wit him? If theres any news on his situation can you post it here please? This thread is just for updating what is going on wit him.
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Problem with this new blood thing is we always hear from the coaches how they can't put in all of the plays because the players are too young. From what we are told, Capers' defense requires a lot of cerebral matter. How is our defense going to get better now that we have at least 3 new starters in a new system? These guys better be studs and be able to pick things up very quickly. If I hear again how the new guys haven't adjusted to our system, I'm giving up on the Texans ever being any good under this regime.
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the young players thing is the key to the Eagles and Patriots success.
I guess that's why the Patriots brought in the 30-year old Harrison and extented the also 30 year old Dillons contract.
Eagles signed 31 year old Owens as well. I could go on.

Nah, that doesn't fly fellas, try again.
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The Texans are doing the right thing, New England does that every year and still get better with younger players. We have to cut down on players that cost too much to keep. If you have a good system then the players that we bring in will fill the need just the same as the top names players. New England didn't win the last superbowl with Ty Law they won it with no name corners. If we want to win and move on then we can't get too attached to our favoraite players. This is the new era of sports, the players wanted free agency and with that we kissed loyalty good bye. Get used to it. Maybe David Carr is next if he doesn't get to the next level.
I don't totally disagree with this, but if you take this approach, then to be successful, you have to make great decisions in FA, the draft, etc. You also need terrific depth, which we are not even close to having. And you stockpile picks, you don't give them away willy nilly. And, it also helps to have the best FO and best coaching staff in the league. If you think we can just cast off aging vets and replace them magically with rookies, with no reprucsions, your dreaming. It's easy to copy NE's philosphy, but not so easy to match their success.
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Yep, this isn't exactly the same as what the pats and eagles do, sure it's similar, but not the same.

And the pats and eagles do it because they have already established a winning attitude and organization, not just everyone can do this and make it work
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Ok so what happened?
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He's gone. Released this afternoon. En-route to Dallas.
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I don't totally disagree with this, but if you take this approach, then to be successful, you have to make great decisions in FA, the draft, etc. You also need terrific depth, which we are not even close to having. And you stockpile picks, you don't give them away willy nilly. And, it also helps to have the best FO and best coaching staff in the league. If you think we can just cast off aging vets and replace them magically with rookies, with no reprucsions, your dreaming. It's easy to copy NE's philosphy, but not so easy to match their success.
I would rather have them let the players that don't want to be here go than have them just wait for them to hold a grudge and be a cancer in the club house. I'm not saying that Glenn was that kind of a player, but he did ask to be released. It's better to do it now than wait for them to get hurt and then release them. That would send a bad massege to other players. I think it will work just fine for both the way it just happend with Glenn.
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