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Old 10-24-2011   #21
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All I can say is that when Arian's out there running in space, he doesn't look like a 4.7 runner to me. Maybe he is and his agility masks his slightly slower pace, but it sure doesn't seem that way.
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The one good test for Foster was the three-cone drill, which tries to measure agility and change of direction. His time of 7.09 seconds was well ahead of the curve.
This is where Arian's bread is buttered.

His gift for change of direction suits him perfectly for Kubiak's one-cut-and-go offense.

That move he put on Michael Griffin was so effortless and yet so deadly.

We're really lucky this guy slipped through the cracks.
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Wonder what Kareem Jackson's numbers were....or did he fall down?
Tripped on a cone, got up and shoved the cone in the back.
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Chris Johnson, another combine warrior now being exposed for what he is.
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Chris Johnson, another combine warrior now being exposed for what he is.
What do you mean? I'm not a CJ fan, but c'mon, 1,228, 2,006, 1,364 ....this guy is not a flash in the pan. He'll get another grand on the ground...maybe not this year, but book it.
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What do you mean? I'm not a CJ fan, but c'mon, 1,228, 2,006, 1,364 ....this guy is not a flash in the pan. He'll get another grand on the ground...maybe not this year, but book it.
Teams don't like smallish backs because they don't hold up. Some do of course... To me, he had dead legs and no explosion. May sound nuts, but he may be past his prime. He's a speed guy who looks like he lost his quickness. There were plenty of times he had the ball in space and couldn't make a guy miss. Look at Foster yesterday...there were two Titans in front of him on his long play that broke right...but he made an explosive move to the right and he was gone. CJ had a few opportunities to do the same yesterday and his legs were stuck in sand.
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people look at the combine all wrong. It ain't a place to determine who can play (that's for the field). It's just a tool to measure measurables, meet can compare the top players. I've never seen a first down made by a measurable. I think the fans put more into this event as a decision making tool than the teams do.
In some cases, I agree, but if measurables weren't taken into great consideration, then expalin how Foster went totally undrafted?

What measurables cannot accurately measure is v-i-s-i-o-n. Foster has elite vision, and he is also a perfect fit for the scheme. Combine that with excellent game speed, elite hip swivel and very good change of direction and cutting skills and you add it all together, and you have the best UDFA RB in the modern era of football imo.

Anyone want to argue for Priest Holmes or someone I am not thinking of?
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In some cases, I agree, but if measurables weren't taken into great consideration, then expalin how Foster went totally undrafted?

What measurables cannot accurately measure is v-i-s-i-o-n. Foster has elite vision, and he is also a perfect fit for the scheme. Combine that with excellent game speed, elite hip swivel and very good change of direction and cutting skills and you add it all together, and you have the best UDFA RB in the modern era of football imo.

Anyone want to argue for Priest Holmes or someone I am not thinking of?
Priest didn't even start at UT right? Foster was a headcase and the University coaches badmouthed him. I think he just pissed off too many people and rb's come and go...dime a dozen.
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Priest didn't even start at UT right? Foster was a headcase and the University coaches badmouthed him. I think he just pissed off too many people and rb's come and go...dime a dozen.
Ya I do now remember that he had some maturity issues and that his coaches were dogging him to the NFL coaches that came calling.

We have often bashed the Texans scouts, but I have to hand it to them for recommending this guy as a good fit in the ZBS. I remember I was pretty excited landing Foster as a UDFA and perhaps becoming a good depth back, but I don't think anyone could have predicted this - this is a guy that is arguably top 5 in the league at everything you can ask of a RB to do and those don't grow on trees.

I wonder if hindsight were 20/20 and teams would have predicted this type of production from him, where he would have been drafted in 2009?
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All I can say is that when Arian's out there running in space, he doesn't look like a 4.7 runner to me. Maybe he is and his agility masks his slightly slower pace, but it sure doesn't seem that way.
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This is where Arian's bread is buttered.

His gift for change of direction suits him perfectly for Kubiak's one-cut-and-go offense.

That move he put on Michael Griffin was so effortless and yet so deadly.

We're really lucky this guy slipped through the cracks.
It'd be interesting to look how fast Griffin ran the 40, cause he couldn't catch Foster.
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Ya I do now remember that he had some maturity issues and that his coaches were dogging him to the NFL coaches that came calling.

We have often bashed the Texans scouts, but I have to hand it to them for recommending this guy as a good fit in the ZBS. I remember I was pretty excited landing Foster as a UDFA and perhaps becoming a good depth back, but I don't think anyone could have predicted this - this is a guy that is arguably top 5 in the league at everything you can ask of a RB to do and those don't grow on trees.

I wonder if hindsight were 20/20 and teams would have predicted this type of production from him, where he would have been drafted in 2009?
yeah, the Texans scouts have not been the bright spot of the franchise from day 1, but this is certainly one that merits praise.
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It'd be interesting to look how fast Griffin ran the 40, cause he couldn't catch Foster.
ran a 4.45 and a 4.42
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Does anyone know what his broad jump was? This is one of the only things I look at outside of the 40 because it shows explosion and a quick burst. I know he wasn't completely healthy when he tested, but I would bet anything he had a pretty good broad jump.
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Does anyone know what his broad jump was? This is one of the only things I look at outside of the 40 because it shows explosion and a quick burst. I know he wasn't completely healthy when he tested, but I would bet anything he had a pretty good broad jump.
9'7" per Wikipedia.
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9'7" per Wikipedia.
Wow, yeah that's pretty surprising. I would figure he'd be at least over 10.
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I think 40 times and such are ok for projections as to potential but they don't trump production . Foster was a good SEC back at a 4.65 which is better than a 4.4 in the CUSA . Foster's best asset can't be timed and that's his vision and anticipation .
I think this falls into the "don't know what you're doing" category Rey was talking about.

That 40 time without the production is fools gold & it will get you everytime.
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All I can say is that when Arian's out there running in space, he doesn't look like a 4.7 runner to me. Maybe he is and his agility masks his slightly slower pace, but it sure doesn't seem that way.
I know of a player that is blazing fast on the field when he is being chased, but turns in slow times against the clock. Sometimes some people may just need that extra incentive to get in gear.
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His hip movement is incredible. Both quick and smooth. What funny about his fourty time is that in the open field he is not caught that often. On the long pass play on Sunday, several guys were in range, but never gained enough ground.
It's due to his ability to change directions. If he were running in a straight line, he would have been tackled long ago. I did notice on long run plays, he actually gets caught fairly often. He just has the ability to make people miss. Rarely have I seen him actually break away from the defender in a straight line run.
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I know of a player that is blazing fast on the field when he is being chased, but turns in slow times against the clock. Sometimes some people may just need that extra incentive to get in gear.
Yeah, the Combine needs to add a '40 yard dash while being chased by a bloodthirsty panther' event. Or better yet, host the Combine in Spain and have all the athletes participate in a 'Running of the Bulls'. Those who get impaled don't get drafted. Could work and make the offseason much more entertaining.
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Yeah, the Combine needs to add a '40 yard dash while being chased by a bloodthirsty panther' event. Or better yet, host the Combine in Spain and have all the athletes participate in a 'Running of the Bulls'. Those who get impaled don't get drafted. Could work and make the offseason much more entertaining.
lol. this is a good idea.
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