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Old 04-29-2005   #61
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I'm looking forward to watching this guy in punt returns .... JJ may be 4.6 in the first 40 but he's about 8.6 in the second 40 ...
well jesus, if jj is returning punts 40 yards, then id say his position is safe
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Old 04-29-2005   #62
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Mathis at mini-camp today:

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Old 04-29-2005   #63
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I mean this Hampton is really small time, the only thing I can think of when I hear the name is a rodent.
I'll take that as a joke and move on. There have been numerous numerous players from "really small time" schools that have made an impact on the pro -level. Don't get caught up in "big name" schools all the time. Mathis ate up the "big name" competition in the Gridiron Classic. Jerry Rice - small school
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Look at those arms. This dude is by far not some skin and bones track guy. Like I said before, Everytime I hear about him something good is being said.
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the great thing about mathis and our situation is our recieving corp we have the ability to give mathis the time needed to adjust to the NFL...i think we give him this year to work the slot and return game...give him time to work a relationship with carr and johnson(on the field)...and then come in next year as our number 2 guy...he has the speed...soon he'll have the hands and the route running ability
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Here is an article about Jerome Mathis, I found it pretty good reading. http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-...p-sports-local

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This is the one pick that intrigued me the most. Now watching him on video is just making me want to see more. C'mon AUGUST! Good pick up IMO. This kid could really be something in due time...and in our uni!!!!

I think we all are wanting to see more of Mathis. Character issue was 2 years ago, and Mathis said he has grown up since. No issue to me, we all mess up once when we are young. This was a minor one. Maybe with due time, he can develop and open it up for AJ. The article stated-

On the field, he sacrificed individual glory by often acting as a decoy to open things up for HU's other receivers. As a result, he caught just 30 passes but still led Division I-AA with 29.8 yards per catch. Taylor says Mathis never complained about the role on the team that finished 10-2 and won the MEAC title. I like the sound of this.

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if someone gets the opportunity to watch Mathis.. could ya please clue me in on his change of direction ability?

I wanna know if he is capable of juking and such without losing his speed. That, to me, is gonna be the biggest difference between being a superstar or a bust.
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If he does become our #2 reciever, I guess that would be a steal. Too raw and too small to ever contribute to our offense.
Too Small Deion Branch is 5'9''
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not to mention about .4 seconds faster running the 40.

Moses runs around a 4.6

Mathis runs a 4.26-4.28

both are really shifty too, so I would have to say that Mathis is our KR and PB is our PR
Mathis has that break away speed in the open which JJ doesn`t. JJ couldn`t out run that last guy. You will see Mathis fly past the last guy. Hopefully Special teams will block well to see him explode
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I'll take that as a joke and move on.
It was a silly remark on my part, if I offended my apologies.
Charlie Casserly talks about the importance of "matchups" when assessing
the talent of a prospective Draft pick. A player in the SEC or Big Ten, for example, has a far higher volume of talented matchups than a player from
say, Hampton or NW Missouri State because they play a superior level of competition. Therefor its less difficult to measure the ability of a player from a team that faces better competition because the competition is closer to what he would see in the NFL. This is not to say that smaller schools/programs don't produce outstanding NFL players, I'm just saying there's a higher level of uncertainty for identifying small college guys that
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It was a silly remark on my part, if I offended my apologies.
Charlie Casserly talks about the importance of "matchups" when assessing
the talent of a prospective Draft pick. A player in the SEC or Big Ten, for example, has a far higher volume of talented matchups than a player from
say, Hampton or NW Missouri State because they play a superior level of competition. Therefor its less difficult to measure the ability of a player from a team that faces better competition because the competition is closer to what he would see in the NFL. This is not to say that smaller schools/programs don't produce outstanding NFL players, I'm just saying there's a higher level of uncertainty for identifying small college guys that
will succeed in the NFL.
Sure, and that's why Mathis was available in round 4. It's simply harder to guage these small school players, so they tend to drop some in the draft. He is a little on the smallish side, but he has rare speed. I'm really excited to see what he brings to the table. I smell a steal!
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I think he is our #2 WR by midseason or rather i hope he is. I'd like to see him opposite AJ so that frees AJ up from double coverage and allows him to work more underneath against LB's and Safeties.

I think we drafted him with every intention on becoming our #2 and most mocks had him going in the 2nd.
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If he does become our #2 reciever, I guess that would be a steal. Too raw and too small to ever contribute to our offense.

according to espn.com:
Steve Smith - 5'9" 185
Laveranues Coles - 5'11" 193
Deion Branch - 5'9" 193
Troy Brown - 5'10" 196
Lee Evans -5'10" 197
Santana Moss -5'10" 185

I wouldn't mind having a single one of these guys as our #2... well, not T. Brown because of age, but you get my point...

what is too raw? He didn't play enough in college, didn't play against big school competition? He'll have more than enough chances to get experience...
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If he does become our #2 reciever, I guess that would be a steal. Too raw and too small to ever contribute to our offense.
well if he is anywhere as fast as marvin harrison, then he could be effective in the deep passing attack....however, our west coast system wont allow him to get many opportunities over AJ.
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however, our west coast system wont allow him to get many opportunities over AJ.
Interesting that you say that, because SUPPOSIDLY our offense is a vertical one and not the WCO. Has the look of a short passing one though. We are suposidly going to a more timing route type offense this year and I think that may be a BIG thing. Troy Aikmin had LOTS of problems with protection etc. and then they changed to a timing type and then as they say "The rest is history". Hope that is what happens here also.
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Ed is right....we don't run a wco.
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Mathis at mini-camp today:

Dude looks like a beast
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