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Old 10-18-2011   #41
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Oh no you dih-unt...

I don't look at just rings. I'm looking at body-of-work to fix our hapless franchise.

p.s. I'd be happy with Gruden or Billick, as well.
I guess I would be happy with Cowher, Billick and Gruden in that order and I really dislike Gruden.

The funny thing is all are known for something they couldn't build or weren't responsible for as HC's. Cowher didn't get to pick LeBeau and Billick and Gruden couldn't build good O's for their SB teams. It is an odd group people are salivating over.
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Yeah the "qb collector" Jon Gruden doesn't thrill me so much. As far as Billick, i wonder about him. He's been away for a while & if he was as highly thought of as he is by some on here, i wonder why this dude has yet to get another job elsewhere. His track record with qb's isn't so hot either.

In all liklihood, it's going to be someone who hasn't been a HC yet.
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I guess I would be happy with Cowher, Billick and Gruden in that order and I really dislike Gruden.

The funny thing is all are known for something they couldn't build or weren't responsible for as HC's. Cowher didn't get to pick LeBeau and Billick and Gruden couldn't build good O's for their SB teams. It is an odd group people are salivating over.
They all have experience taking talent someone else collected and doing something great with it!

I tend to agree with Mr teX, though. Although that won't be until 2028 when Kubiak finally decides to retire as Texans HC.
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I tend to agree with Mr teX, though. Although that won't be until 2028 when Kubiak finally decides to retire as Texans HC.
You know what really pisses me off right now?

I tried my darndest to be positive & stay off the ABK Train... during that time, I just wanted to stay positive, hope against hope that we would have a winning season (yall took that away from me) or that we would do something special.

The head in the sand trick works pretty well, get pissed off on Sunday, drink it off through Monday, back on the koolaide truck by Tuesday. But then it's a struggle to get positive & stay positive through Sunday.

Now that I'm down with ABK, you guys are taking that away as well.

I've got myself believing in my heart of hearts, that three game losing streak culminating in Tennessee will break McNair.... & you're taking that away as well.

I'm pulling for the Texans to win, make no mistake about that. If we win, I'm happy because we're closer to our goal. If we lose, while I won't be happy, I'll be eagerly awaiting a Monday morning announcement & we can all move on.
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Kubiak sucks let Uncle Wade Phillips.
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You know what really pisses me off right now?

I tried my darndest to be positive & stay off the ABK Train... during that time, I just wanted to stay positive, hope against hope that we would have a winning season (yall took that away from me) or that we would do something special.

The head in the sand trick works pretty well, get pissed off on Sunday, drink it off through Monday, back on the koolaide truck by Tuesday. But then it's a struggle to get positive & stay positive through Sunday.

Now that I'm down with ABK, you guys are taking that away as well.

I've got myself believing in my heart of hearts, that three game losing streak culminating in Tennessee will break McNair.... & you're taking that away as well.

I'm pulling for the Texans to win, make no mistake about that. If we win, I'm happy because we're closer to our goal. If we lose, while I won't be happy, I'll be eagerly awaiting a Monday morning announcement & we can all move on.
I feel your pain, TK.

I want the Texans to WIN. With or without Kubiak, I don't care. In the words of Al, just win, baby!

My agenda is Texans first. Always. I think 99% of fans are the same way.

I do not judge anyone's degree of being a fan any more than I would judge their degree of citizen. A person can love their country but still be critical of the government. And that's the way I feel about being a fan, as well.

Just win, baby.
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i cant convince myself the texans will win at tenn who is coming off a bye then defend reliant against a jax team that always finds a way to beat them
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If the texans don't win this sunday, we might as well kiss this season goodbye as well as kubiak.

No way we recover after that.

Kubiak gone.

I just hope Wade remains DC. He has been doing really good.
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I do not judge anyone's degree of being a fan any more than I would judge their degree of citizen.
Hey now.. I've got a birth certificate... it's just misplaced in a Hawain Courthouse, that's all. But I'm legit.
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I put this in another thread:

Year (Texans record BEFORE they played the first game listed, Texans overall record that season)
Game #, Location, Opponent, Texans' Result (their record BEFORE playing the Texans, their overall record that season)

2006 (1-4, 6-10)
Game 6 vs. Jax W (3-2, 8-8)
Game 7 @ Ten L (1-5, 8-8)

2007 (3-2, 8-8)
Game 6 @ Jax L (3-1, 11-5)
Game 7 vs. Ten L (3-2, 10-6)

2008 (0-1, 8-8)
Game 2 @ Ten L (1-0, 13-3)
Game 3 @ Jax L (1-2, 5-11)

2009 (0-1, 9-7)
Game 2 @ Ten W (0-1, 8-8)
Game 3 vs. Jax L (0-2, 7-9)

2010 (4-4, 6-10)
Game 9 @ Jax L (4-4, 8-8)
Game 11 vs Ten W (5-5, 6-10)

2011 (3-3, ???)
Game 7 @ Ten ? (3-2, ???)
Game 8 vs. Jax ? (1-5, ???)

The lists represent the first match between the teams in that year, as we approach the same test again. This is a lot to take in, I know but History tell us this much: the Texans are likely to only win one of the next games, if that. So 4-4 is practically over achieving. They've yet to deal out losses to both division foes midseason under Kubiak. Never did they beat a rival that ended the season with a winning record. Only once have they beaten a rival with a winning record coming into the game (the first season under Kubiak) and that wasn't on the road. Only one win was on the road period and that win?? Last year against Tennessee, smack dab in the middle of 8 losses, to a team with a locker room in shambles and a record that still equaled the Texans. Do you even want to see this same spread with the Colts included? Ouch. But that's not quite my point...

My greater point? It's time to win this division. THIS is that mythical "next step". This is the test. Jump this hurdle and I believe the Texans make their first playoff appearance. I'll drink every color kool-aid there is if they go 2-0 these next two weeks, I'll shout it from the mountain tops with Ron Burgundy professing his love for Ms. Corningstone. I'll be Sunshine Club. I'll chop up the soap and wash my mouth out with it.

But if they lose these next two games? You can fire Kubiak before the Browns review the game tape cuz it'z ovaaaah...

What do I predict? A loss in Tennessee and a win at home vs. a really, really bad Jacksonville team. 4-4. Then another win and loss before the bye, keeping with the trend: 5-5. Then another win at Jacksonville. Between the Falcons and Bengals a win and a loss. Loss to the Panthers, gotta make a rookie QB look like Elway. Beat up a tanking Colts team to leave them at 8-7: TIED with the team they face next, the Tennessee Titans for division lead AND the playoffs. Neither will be in position for a wild card berth. Winner take all.

That's where my crystal ball ends. Sometimes it gets filled with smoke and I see them winning both these next games and remaining in first the rest of the way. And kool-aid flows from waterfalls while bunnies skip and flower sway under a bright, shining sun.... then it starts bubbling dark, thick liquid like a witch's cauldron and I see fire reigning from the sky and the dead walking and people having stupid things to say on the sports radio and Dan Dingledorf in the background laughing maniacally....

I just want bunnies. For once. Literally once because it would be a first.
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I feel your pain, TK.

I want the Texans to WIN. With or without Kubiak, I don't care. In the words of Al, just win, baby!

My agenda is Texans first. Always. I think 99% of fans are the same way.

I do not judge anyone's degree of being a fan any more than I would judge their degree of citizen. A person can love their country but still be critical of the government. And that's the way I feel about being a fan, as well.

Just win, baby.
Beautiful analogy.
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Here's another fun fact:

The Texans are 1-8 in their last 9 road games.
But, But........

We're on the right track.
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The Texans are 1-8 in their last 9 road games.
wow, I mean...I'm paying attention but I didn't realize that.

seriously, I must be in denial to not have known that.
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I do not judge anyone's degree of being a fan any more than I would judge their degree of citizen. A person can love their country but still be critical of the government. And that's the way I feel about being a fan, as well.

Just win, baby.
Another great post. Seriously, I think you should have a blog on the front page of the site. Sometimes, your stuff gets buried in here and I think it deserves to stand on its own. Think about it.
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wow, I mean...I'm paying attention but I didn't realize that.

seriously, I must be in denial to not have known that.
I felt the same way when I heard it this morning on 610.

Such a spectacular, flashing signal flare of failure and yet somehow it escaped my attention.
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Beautiful analogy.
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That is a perfect analogy. Let's go with that.

What do you think about a citizen who roots for his country to lose?

Let's say Iraq. If you don't believe we should have been there, I understand criticism. I understand protest. But there were people who were rooting to lose, just to spite one insignificant little man.

Same thing here. There is no reason to ever root for your team to lose.
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Justify not so much. Illustrate you pick out arbitrary standards with no reflection on the NFL as a whole just to have another bang on Kubiak post - yeah pretty much proves that. When you first started banging your drum on this I did the homework you should have done (and of course you failed to respond) showing teams with similar records over the last 5 years have similar records going on the road against teams with winning seasons. Inconvenient truth for you.

I mean look at this silly thread you have come up with. The Hags only have one winning season during Kubiak's tenure (they split with the home team winning each time). The Tacks have had two winning seasons (2008 again a home team split - 2009 they were 8-8 because we beat them at home). So three games is what you created a thread out of.

Seattle knocked New Orleans out of the playoffs last year coming off a 7-9 regular season record.
Looks like someone is avoiding your excellent post.
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I think we go in and take care of business this weekend.
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TN beat the Ratbirds 26-13
That was a trap game for the Ravens, coming off a huge blowout win over their hated rival. They clearly weren't well prepared. Line those two up this weekend and it's a different story.
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