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Old 10-17-2011   #41
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No, No and NO. There is a reason why he is a backup QB, and a reason why no other team really wanted him in the offseason.
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The Ravens made a point to try and get Leach involved early (obviously to put it to his old team) and it failed miserably.

Rice was held to under 3.0YPC until the 4th quarter at which point the Ravens started running one back sets.

You think the Texans missed Leach when Foster put 155 on the Steelers? Or does Leach have healing powers?

The Texans don't miss Leach. They miss Andre.
I see your point, but the Texans DID miss Leach against the Raens yesterday, if only on the 4th and 1 that failed miserably.
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Body language?
Yeah I don't like his body language. Yes, it has a lot to do with the hits. Regardless, it still equates to projecting weakness in a physical sport that takes advantage of weakness. David Carr would pop back up, throw some praise and would be amazingly fresh as a daisy despite throwing himself into sack after sack. He was the energizer bunny of self-sacking quarterbacks, but certainly that amazing durability didn't make him a good qb. It was however, an important trait for a QB and one reason he stuck in the league so long...that and his shiny locks of course. Schaub looks like Charlie Brown after he gets hit. He doesn't look like a guy who is going to hold up much longer to me. He seems to be playing a bit gimpy and his MRI today tells us he is in pain...they just don't know if its just regular pain, pain, or something broken or strained pain. Regardless, I'm not anti-Schaub and I'm not one of the guys who are destroying his game right now even though we only had 76 yards in his final five drives...I just don't like his body language right now.
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Now Steph you know the "Code of the NFL". No head coach gets into specifics about any player's injury unless said player is obviously out for the season (see Mario) or was knocked out of a game and could not return. And even in the latter case, they're as vague as the press allows them to be. The best we'll get is when they have to declare the health status (probable, questionable, etc.) going into the weekend.

Speaking of health issues, I have an uneasy suspiction that some of the O-line guys aren't 100% either. I know for a fact I saw Duane Brown seriously hobbling yesterday. Haven't heard a word about him either.
I never heard how Briesel's ankle was either.
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The Texans don't miss Leach. They miss Andre.
I bet OD & Matt misses James Casey.
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Well, can he actually hit those RB's or is he just going to throw at their feet like Schaub does half the time?

A quick run around highlight videos for Leinart shows me a guy who doesn't appear to have that much worse an arm than Schaub. Matt's not making good decisions and hasn't been for a while. Maybe it's time he sat down, got healthy, and got his head straight. Even Warren Moon got benched for Cody Carlson when his game was kind of all over the place.

We throw a bunch of stuff to TE's and RB's anyway. Our one healthy deep threat only catches the ball every third Sunday and when AJ gets back it isn't like he's going to miss being hit in stride all the time. He's been coming back for balls since he entered the league.
schaub is good enough, considering what is available out there he is the best option. only one brady and one peyton. might be a good idea to try n groom a guy for the future but schaub can get us there. As for people coming back for passes normally happens when throwing on the run which is to be expected.
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Not trying to steal your thunder, I think everybody pretty well respects your medical opinion by now....but from what I saw he was doing a yoga pose aimed at opening the hip joint and stretching it out. You take a knee, roll your front hip out so your front knee touches the ground, then you stretch and lean forward. Believe me, it's NOT a back stretch. It very well could be any of the problems you've said but I think that was to address his gimpy walk, maybe a thigh bruise or hip joint problem. Either way it sucks to have him nearing an injured status too!
TK, I'm always open to observations. What I remember was that he was on his knees, but not with one in front of his other (or crossing over) and his body was bending down at the waist straight down to the ground. As I'm sure you know, direct hits to the hip area again can do a number on the back as well as the hip. Injury to the back or the hip will cause hip and buttocks muscles to go into spasm, and if YOUR observations are truer to form, it would still be a very appropriate maneuver. I have a feeling the Texans would go with a hip bruise for public consumption before they would reveal a disc injury.
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I hope he's not hurt and misses time --
yet another reason for Boobiak to claim he deserves another year

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I never heard how Briesel's ankle was either.
He is out for the season with a Lisfranc injury. The Lisfranc injury is a fracture and/or dislocation of the midfoot region. In a 300 pound lineman, it can be career ending.

Edit: Sorry, that was Barber's injury..not Briesel's. In a light player, this still could be a career altering injury.

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Body language?

Just the Ngata helmet hit to the chest would end most of us. Much less all the hits he has taken the last couple of weeks.

They need to figure out this running game thing pronto.

We are likely going to get no honest discussions of Schaub's health. /signed this old article
If you go back and watch that play .... Schaub basically ran into Ngata to avoid pressure from the edge.
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If you go back and watch that play .... Schaub basically ran into Ngata to avoid pressure from the edge.
Well yeah. I can tell you what my body language would be after that collision.

6 feet under. It's a wonder he didn't break something.

The body language game is a hard one. On one hand, you don't want to show you are hurt. On the other hand, like the JJ Watt shoved into Big Ben hit that resulted in a penalty, sometimes a QB has to show that a hit hurt to maybe draw a flag. That's just how things work.

Schaub got $50,000 worth of fines from Jared Allen with no flag because he was able to complete passes without crumpling after the hit.
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He is out for the season with a Lisfranc injury. The Lisfranc injury is a fracture and/or dislocation of the midfoot region. In a 300 pound lineman, it can be career ending.

Edit: Sorry, that was Barber's injury..not Briesel's. In a light player, this still could be a career altering injury.
i was about to say, damn and the dude came back out to play.......
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Well yeah. I can tell you what my body language would be after that collision.

6 feet under. It's a wonder he didn't break something.

The body language game is a hard one. On one hand, you don't want to show you are hurt. On the other hand, like the JJ Watt shoved into Big Ben hit that resulted in a penalty, sometimes a QB has to show that a hit hurt to maybe draw a flag. That's just how things work.

Schaub got $50,000 worth of fines from Jared Allen with no flag because he was able to complete passes without crumpling after the hit.
I thought it was a good no call because Schaub initiated the contactwith Ngata .... He just happened to be in the way of where Schaub wanted to go.
Didnt seem like much of a hit at all. Hell , Schaub kinda jumped and was able to throw the ball over the top of the guy ..... The "Other two Ravens" in on the play hit Schaub with more force.

From your friends at the Chron ....

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I see your point, but the Texans DID miss Leach against the Raens yesterday, if only on the 4th and 1 that failed miserably.
u can't really say that foster was facemasked leach or no leach if the refs fail to make a fm call then ur not gonna get that one
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He is out for the season with a Lisfranc injury. The Lisfranc injury is a fracture and/or dislocation of the midfoot region. In a 300 pound lineman, it can be career ending.

Edit: Sorry, that was Barber's injury..not Briesel's. In a light player, this still could be a career altering injury.
wooo you scared me on that one, the oline can't have anymore injurys.
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wooo you scared me on that one, the oline can't have anymore injurys.
Scared me too after I read it!!!!!LOL!
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Well yeah. I can tell you what my body language would be after that collision.

6 feet under. It's a wonder he didn't break something.

The body language game is a hard one. On one hand, you don't want to show you are hurt. On the other hand, like the JJ Watt shoved into Big Ben hit that resulted in a penalty, sometimes a QB has to show that a hit hurt to maybe draw a flag. That's just how things work.

Schaub got $50,000 worth of fines from Jared Allen with no flag because he was able to complete passes without crumpling after the hit.
I'm admittedly nitpicking Schaub, but he doesn't project leadership when the going gets tough. I'm not questioning his toughness either. He's plenty tough. You give an example of Roethlisberger hamming it up, but he has great body language if you ask me...he's the kind of guy players rally around in the 4th quarter when the going gets tough. Schaub? He's Gifford Neilson...'ol milkshake breath...a good player, but not too compelling.
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TK, I'm always open to observations. What I remember was that he was on his knees, but not with one in front of his other (or crossing over) and his body was bending down at the waist straight down to the ground. As I'm sure you know, direct hits to the hip area again can do a number on the back as well as the hip. Injury to the back or the hip will cause hip and buttocks muscles to go into spasm, and if YOUR observations are truer to form, it would still be a very appropriate maneuver. I have a feeling the Texans would go with a hip bruise for public consumption before they would reveal a disc injury.
Definitely, the Texans try to make any injury that's not season-ending sound minor. It was only a quick shot and I only saw it once so I could be mistaken but I remember saying he was doing yoga on the sidelines. The way you describe with both knees forward is also a yoga pose but with both knees forward the length is through the lower back and butt, not so much the hip like the lunge/crossover one I described. I'd certainly be interested to know exactly which one he was doing because despite the similar position they are two totally different stretches.
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Think about it. The Texans bench is on the West side of Reliant so Matt al-Schaub would be facing East. If you were to flatten a globe Mecca would be due East from Houston. He's got it right. Give him some credit.
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