Lets be ********** Honest.....

[Honoring Earl 34]

Bob ... Bud hear ... I just called to let you know you're headed in the right direction and we don't believe we have a snowball's chance in hell come sunday ... click ... hee hee .

[MojoMan]

Let's be honest.

1. People get hysterical here on this board after every Texans loss, without exception. And of course we have seen a number of examples of that here in this very thread.

2. The Texans were 6-10 last season and most people believe that 10-6 is a reasonable goal for this year. The Texans have just finished the hardest 4-game stretch on their schedule that they will have this season. This last four games were a gauntlet. Unfortunately, they went 1-3. However, the only game that they lost that they reasonably should have won was the home loss against the Oakland Raiders last week. They should have gone 2-2.

3. Without Andre Johnson, this team is mediocre. With him it is better than mediocre, but not great, only good. The defense has played surprisingly well, certainly exceeding the expectations that any reasonable person had last summer before training camp.

4. The schedule will be easier over the rest of the season after this brutal four game stretch. An improvement to 10-6, a division championship and the team's first playoff appearance would all be great news and something to for fans to feel good about. Any "fans" caught whining in that circumstance just have bad attitudes.

5. The Texans current record of 3-3 with 10 games left to play is hardly a disaster. The Texans now travel to Tennessee for a big game against the Titans. If they win that one, they are right back on track.

[Honoring Earl 34]

Originally Posted by MojoMan

Let's be honest.

1. People get hysterical here on this board after every Texans loss, without exception. And of course we have seen a number of examples of that here in this very thread.

2. The Texans were 6-10 last season and most people believe that 10-6 is a reasonable goal for this year. The Texans have just finished the hardest 4-game stretch on their schedule that they will have this season. This last four games was a gauntlet. Unfortunately, they went 1-3. However, the only game that they lost that they reasonably should have won was the home loss against the Oakland Raiders last week. They should have gone 2-2.

3. Without Andre Johnson, this team is mediocre. With him it is better than mediocre, but not great, only good. The defense has played surprisingly well, certainly exceeding the expectations that any reasonable person had last summer before training camp.

4. The schedule will be easier over the rest of the season after this brutal four game stretch. An improvement to 10-6, a division championship and the team's first playoff appearance will all be great news and something to for fans to feel good about. Any "fans" caught whining in that circumstance just have bad attitudes.

5. The Texans current record of 3-3 with 10 games left to play is hardly a disaster. The Texans now travel to Tennessee for a big game against the Titans. If they win that one, they are right back on track.

I think it's more than that because the brass is in a CYA state . Making excuses for Jacoby , bringing Holliday back plus Kareem starting . All draft picks ... hmmm . The FO is feelijng the heat because even though the defense is better the Texans still lose games they can win .

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34

I think it's more than that because the brass is in a CYA state . Making excuses for Jacoby , bringing Holliday back plus Kareem starting . All draft picks ... hmmm . The FO is feelijng the heat because even though the defense is better the Texans still lose games they can win .

yeah, what's with bringing Holliday back, cutting a player...then making him inactive?

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Super Mario

The problem is not the offense. The problem is the defense. In our 3 wins we gave up an average of 17 points. In our 3 losses we gave up an average of 31.3 points.

When we played New Orleans, we knew that we weren't going to win that game if we settled for field goals.

Teams should be saying the same about us. They scored on 4 field goals... usually considered a win for the defense.

offensively, we have trouble staying on the field. Elite defense & all that, but I'm talking about first downs, just getting into field goal range, we couldn't cross mid field.

[Honoring Earl 34]

Originally Posted by Vinny

yeah, what's with bringing Holliday back, cutting a player...then making him inactive?

The Titans were gonna pick him up I guess . The funny thing is last year we were saying the Texans offense is there and the defense needs 5 more players . This year it's the defense is almost there and the offense needs some help . Over the offseason coaches scheme to stop you . You better have a plan B , C , or D .

Why in the hell did Schaub call two timeouts ? This tells me he is having trouble with the play or doesn't believe in it .

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34

The Titans were gonna pick him up I guess . The funny thing is last year we were saying the Texans offense is there and the defense needs 5 more players . This year it's the defense is almost there and the offense needs some help . Over the offseason coaches scheme to stop you . You better have a plan B , C , or D .

Why in the hell did Schaub call two timeouts ? This tells me he is having trouble with the play or doesn't believe in it .

Yes good HC's use the offseason to scheme to stop you.

Schaub has to use time outs because Gary limits when/what plays he can audible into. Either that or Gary/Dennison aren't getting the plays into Schaub quickly enough.

[The Cush]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

Yes good HC's use the offseason to scheme to stop you.

Schaub has to use time outs because Gary limits when/what plays he can audible into. Either that or Gary/Dennison aren't getting the plays into Schaub quickly enough.

Using timeouts in the 4th is inexcusable but after the 2nd called timeout, you could see about 3 Texans talking to Mason because he wasn't lined up right. That's more on Gary putting a guy you just aquired out there in crucial situations and trusting he knows the play

[HOU-TEX]

What do the *'s mean?

[BigBull17]

Originally Posted by The Cush

Using timeouts in the 4th is inexcusable but after the 2nd called timeout, you could see about 3 Texans talking to Mason because he wasn't lined up right. That's more on Gary putting a guy you just aquired out there in crucial situations and trusting he knows the play

Or being forced to use a guy because he had to upgrade on the fly because they refused to upgrade when they had a chance. So, while DA was wasting a roster spot, a guy could have possibly been learning. Maybe.

[Showtime100]

Fire f'ing Kubes. If you don't get that you are stupid.......period.

[run-david-run]

Originally Posted by imatexan

We will win the south but a game like this does not give me any confidence once we are in the playoffs.

You say that, but we just went into Baltimore without our 2 best players and gave the Ravens all they wanted for 3 and a half quarters. We held Rice completely in check, but just ran out of steam on offense when we had to play from behind. With AJ out there, we have a much better chance of getting the run game going and we have a legitimate deep threat on passing downs, our two main problems on offense.

Based on yesterday, do the Ravens scare you? Because they sure as hell scare me less now than they did at 2:59 pm on Sunday.

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by run-david-run

You say that, but we just went into Baltimore without our 2 best players and gave the Ravens all they wanted for 3 and a half quarters. We held Rice completely in check, but just ran out of steam on offense when we had to play from behind. With AJ out there, we have a much better chance of getting the run game going and we have a legitimate deep threat on passing downs, our two main problems on offense.

all these excuses are nauseating. The Ratbirds were missing Ben Grubbs Tom Zbikowski, Lee Evans, Chris Carr, and Jimmy Smith....all starters or key reserves (nick back etc.). How do you keep Ray Rice in check but still give up over 100 yards rushing? The Ratbirds replaced Evans with their version of Jacoby Jones as their deep threat but that didn't stop them either.

[EllisUnit]

hell the colts are only 0-6 , so obviously that has NOTHING to do with peyton being out, right ?

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by Vinny

all these excuses are nauseating. The Ratbirds were missing Ben Grubbs Tom Zbikowski, Lee Evans, Chris Carr, and Jimmy Smith....all starters or key reserves (nick back etc.). How do you keep Ray Rice in check but still give up over 100 yards rushing? The Ratbirds replaced Evans with their version of Jacoby Jones as their deep threat but that didn't stop them either.

Every team has injuries .... Some of those have a bigger effect than others.

None of those guy's listed as out for the Ravens comes close to bringing what #80 brings to the Texans offense .... Imagine that team without Rice who their entire offense is built around ..... Much like the Texans offense is built around AJ.

Hell , I'd rather see Schaub out than #80 to be totally honest. Schaub or Leinart ..... both can manage the game but neither can dictate what defenses do. #80 does ....
Just look at how hard its been for the Texans to run the ball the past two weeks ..... and consider how bad the Raiders were at stopping the run prior to that game , that was what most were banking on the Texans exploiting ..... No AJ = running game ineffective.

[Bulluck53]

This won't be taken well considering who's saying it but in my honest opinion the Texans wouldn't win this division if Britt were healthy. He opened up so many options for the Titans and they have certainly struggled against some lesser defenses without him. That's not to say Britt is some world beater, but that Houston is just missing certain pieces. Even with AJ there is something wrong there.

With the injuries in this division and the Garrard move opening week there is absolutely no excuse for Kubiak not to deliver a division title. Even if Hou were to squeak in the playoffs as a wildcard I think its grounds for a Kubiak firing. Way too much talent for the performance.

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

Every team has injuries .... Some of those have a bigger effect than others.

None of those guy's listed as out for the Ravens comes close to bringing what #80 brings to the Texans offense .... Imagine that team without Rice who their entire offense is built around ..... Much like the Texans offense is built around AJ.

Hell , I'd rather see Schaub out than #80 to be totally honest. Schaub or Leinart ..... both can manage the game but neither can dictate what defenses do. #80 does ....
Just look at how hard its been for the Texans to run the ball the past two weeks ..... and consider how bad the Raiders were at stopping the run prior to that game , that was what most were banking on the Texans exploiting ..... No AJ = running game ineffective.

I guess the Bills should have thrown in the towel when Jim Kelly couldn't play against the Oilers? Frank Reich? Riiiiight...Bills have zero shot. AJ is a great player but come on, this is the NFL. One guy ain't gonna make a team great. AJ has been here a long time and this team has always been mediocre at best. The excuses just seem like weakness. I think players matter, but I also think that weak, soft teams look for these kinds of excuses...and apparently so do weak, soft fanbases (not speaking of anyone in particular).

[Norg]

U know lookin back at the last 6 years im kinda seeing the reason why alot of people hate this regime its just 6 years of bad football IMO

IMO makin the playoffs is not enough this year its make it to the AFC champ game or bust IMO

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

Hell , I'd rather see Schaub out than #80 to be totally honest. Schaub or Leinart ..... both can manage the game but neither can dictate what defenses do. #80 does ....
Just look at how hard its been for the Texans to run the ball the past two weeks ..... and consider how bad the Raiders were at stopping the run prior to that game , that was what most were banking on the Texans exploiting ..... No AJ = running game ineffective.

How bad were the Texans at stopping the running game? But since the Raiders were missing Louis Murphy, we were able to key in on McFadden right?

They run the same ZBS we do, they understand the what & why our OL does what it does & how to counter it. It's the same reason our poor run defense was able to shut down two of the more prolific running games in the league, but struggled with the Saints, the Dolphins, & the Colts... the Colts!!

Both Oakland & Baltimore made adjustments that opened up their running games in the second half. We didn't.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Vinny

I guess the Bills should have thrown in the towel when Jim Kelly couldn't play against the Oilers? Frank Reich? Riiiiight...Bills have zero shot. AJ is a great player but come on, this is the NFL. One guy ain't gonna make a team great. AJ has been here a long time and this team has always been mediocre at best. The excuses just seem like weakness. I think players matter, but I also think that weak, soft teams look for these kinds of excuses...and apparently so do weak, soft fanbases (not speaking of anyone in particular).

& if one guy makes the team, that says an awful lot about the coaches.

Look at Indy, without 18, that whole F.O. look like idiots, Pioli included.

(I typed idiots & it printed??)