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Old 10-12-2011   #1
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2007-

1- Amobi Okoye DT
2- *
3- Jacoby Jones WR
4- Fred Bennett "CB"
5- Brandon Harrison S
5- Brandon Frye OT
6- Kasey Studdard OG
7- Zac Diles LB

*Part of the trade for Matt Schaub

The worst draft of ALL TIME.

Okoye busted bigtime, try to forget who was selected right after him. The trade for Schaub is probably the biggest win here......Jacoby Jones for a 3rd. Sick. Fred Bennett can't even coach. The Brandons, I don't think even played preseason snaps. KASEY STUDDARD!!! AAACCKK!!!! Zac Diles. I guess that's a hit too since he started for a god awful defense for 2 years.

Shoot me. That's terrible. That's a team NOT taking a step right there and in this game if you're not moving forward? You're moving backwards, like Jacoby Jones in the endzone on a busted play.
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Ouch....
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Someone please pour some bleach in my eyes.... Please!!
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Wow. Now that's one sorry ass draft.
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YUUCK! Awful reminders! ALL duds here!
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For the record, the 2007 draft was Rick Smith's first fail as GM, but not his last.

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Sigh... How Bob McNair continues to ride kubiak and company after all **** ups he has committed is just mind blowing to me
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Default Re: It's Official: The 2007 Draft

Hey, we were just beginning to get on track then, so that doesn't count.
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We need to trade 2nd round draft picks more!
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Default Re: It's Official: The 2007 Draft

That's funny. I made the same thread on August 30th and a few posters sort of politely suggested I was crazy. And I added the 2008 Draft into that argument.

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You want to know why it's taken Kubiak longer than he should have been given to create a winning team? Look no further than the 2007 and 2008 drafts. They brought this up on the radio this morning, and it struck a chord with me, so I went and looked up exactly who was taken.

2007
Amobi Okoye - most people knew this was a mistake at the time. I wanted to believe, but even if I was optimistic about Okoye, I knew the team wasn't good enough to waste a 1st round pick on a project.

Jacoby Jones - still with the team, and I know people are always hoping for good things from him, but honestly, if you spend a 3rd round pick on a player, you'd like to see a little more out of him by this point. Still, when compared to the other players from these drafts, JJ is a hit.

Fred Bennett - just .... wow. If the guy was good enough to have the year he had as a rookie, shouldn't he be good enough to be in the league right now? Where the hell is he, anyway?

Brandon Harrison - we've still never drafted a quality safety. Maybe we'll stumble into a homegrown one in Quin.

Brandon Frye - where is he now?

Kasey Studdard - still with the team, but he's not good. Then again, he's a 6th round pick, so I am not bagging on the team for this pick.

Zach Diles - solid player, especially for a 7th round pick. I've never thought he should be a starter, but he should be a quality backup. Is he here this year? I haven't heard from him this preseason, and I've lost track of players due to the lockout.

2008
Duane Brown - best player from these two drafts. He's not the best LT in the league, but he's very good in our system, and I think he's underrated as a run blocker.

Antwaun Molden - when this team had the worst secondary in the history of the NFL, Molden couldn't get on the field. In fact, the team went out and picked up Jason Allen from the scrap heap and started him right away. And I don't buy the "stayed injured" crap, either, because he'd frequently show up on kick coverage. If you're healthy enough to run down the field and collide with people going that speed, then you're healthy enough to put on your best Petey Faggins impression. The only thing worse than Molden's complete lack of impact on the field was Kubiak wasting a roster spot on him every year. If he was so bad that he couldn't get on the field, why take a job from someone else?

Steve Slaton - here's where I know may of you will differ with me, but I was never a real Slaton fan. I just felt like his 1200 yard season was the biggest smoke and mirrors job since Timmy Smith put up 230+ yards rushing in the Super Bowl. I was hoping he'd become our version of Reggie Bush to catch screen passes, take some pitches, and run a few draw plays while our #1 back (that never emerged that year) did the bruising, hard yards. So I give him credit for doing what he did, but I was still unconvinced. Unfortunately, I'll never know whether he could have excelled with a true #1 back doing the dirty work, because the guy fumbles the gloves right off his hands. So now he's gone. Wait ... is it official yet? I don't want to jump the gun.

Xavier Adibi - see Antwaun Molden for my thoughts on this guy.

Frank Okam - should never have drafted the guy if you thought he wasn't going to play motivated, and you should never have drafted the guy if you had any clue he was going to be a waste of human fat. And since they're paid to have a clue about these sorts of things .....

Dominique Barber - This guy is still trying. He's just not that good. I have nothing really against the guy, and especially since he's a 6th round pick, I just can't blast the team too much for this one, but a miss is a miss, no matter what round they come in. The later rounds obviously have more misses. That's just reality.

Alex Brink - I file this one with BJ Symons and Jared Zabransky. I honestly don't think Kubiak ever really had any intention of going with them, since he was only planning to carry two QBs, so I'm not sure why the wasted draft pick. 7th rounder, so I'm not going to kill them over it, but why? *shrug*

Anyway, for that two year period, we are entering the time period when those guys should be the core of the team. We got Duane Brown and Jacoby Jones. I know, we got Matt Schaub as well, but I don't consider him part of the draft, because someone else developed him at the pro level for three years. The Texans didn't scout him, assign a draft grade, and make the hard choice about who to pass up to take him. He's a good pick-up obviously, but the fact that he might be the best argument for those two drafts ought to be indictment enough.
Two drafts at the most critical juncture of the team's history (trying to build from a 2-14 squad), and this is what they come up with. Take away Charlie Casserly and Wade Phillips and take a look at what Smithiak has to show. THAT is why it's taken Kubiak six years to take us to the lofty heights of 3-2 and atop the division.
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I don't know man, that draft with Travis Johnson was pretty bad.
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The 2006 draft class, arguably our most talented ever, has turned into the IR class.

1. Mario Williams (IR 2011, Pectoral)
2. Demeco Ryans (IR 2010, Achilles)
3. Charles Spencer (Career ending injury)
4. Eric Winston (*knock on wood*)
5. Owen Daniels (IR 2009, ACL)
6. Wali Lundy (not talented)
7. David Anderson (*knock on wood*)
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I regret clicking on this thread now... That 2007 is beyond horrible, and 2008 was awful too.
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2007-

1- Amobi Okoye DT
2- *
3- Jacoby Jones WR
4- Fred Bennett "CB"
5- Brandon Harrison S
5- Brandon Frye OT
6- Kasey Studdard OG
7- Zac Diles LB

*Part of the trade for Matt Schaub

The worst draft of ALL TIME.

Okoye busted bigtime, try to forget who was selected right after him. The trade for Schaub is probably the biggest win here......Jacoby Jones for a 3rd. Sick. Fred Bennett can't even coach. The Brandons, I don't think even played preseason snaps. KASEY STUDDARD!!! AAACCKK!!!! Zac Diles. I guess that's a hit too since he started for a god awful defense for 2 years.

Shoot me. That's terrible. That's a team NOT taking a step right there and in this game if you're not moving forward? You're moving backwards, like Jacoby Jones in the endzone on a busted play.

I think that made me Vurp a little bit and burn my mouth.....horrible.

Remember how many seasons the Texans just kept clinging to Okoye? "We've got great kids"

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Inept is not just a word in the dictionary. It was FO policy in 2007. That's just pathetic. Even the Sunshine Club has to admit it.
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Inept is not just a word in the dictionary. It was FO policy in 2007. That's just pathetic. Even the Sunshine Club has to admit it.

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Inept is not just a word in the dictionary. It was FO policy in 2007. That's just pathetic. Even the Sunshine Club has to admit it.
Dream on.

For instance:

1) Okoye is still young. Remember, Smith was amazingly brave to pick such a young player. The Texans gave up on him too soon because of the whiners.

2) Jacoby Jones did just fine last week and in his career. Is it his fault his QB sucks and can't get him the ball?

3) The number two picks for Schaub was cheap for a good QB. Is it his fault his receivers outside of AJ suck and can't run routes and catch?

It may seem 2 and 3 contradict, but you just have to be ready to ignore any cognitive dissonance.

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Joking aside, I liked the trade for Schaub. I think he's a good enough QB for this team. The rest of the draft...no.
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I'm always interested in how drafts like this echo into future drafts. Taking Okoye instead of Darrelle Revis results in the Texans later needing to draft Antwuan Molden and when he fails Kareem Jackson. If we draft Willis instead of Okoye are we then back taking a linebacker two years later when Cushing is sitting there?

How teams are put together interests me. The process is fascinating. You see Kubiak show up in 2006 and Jason Babin doesn't seem to fit what the great defensive mind of DC Richard Smith has planned BUT... he goes back to 4-3 end where he belongs and manages 5 sacks in 3 starts. The next year in 2007 he's traded to Seattle for a bag of balls and a bad SS. Two years later we're drafting him all over again in Conner Barwin who hopefully can make the transition to OLB that Babin couldn't. IF we'd kept Babin around a little longer (and if Smith or Bush had known how to coordinate a defense) he'd probably have blossomed into the pass rushing 4-3 DE he is today.

It doesn't pay to think too much about how many players the Texans have had and failed to develop over the last ten years.
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