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The showdown between the Houston Texans and the Oakland Raiders on Sunday was not a game one would brag about as a great game. However, I found it quite interesting. Speaking from a players perspective, I thought both teams showed toughness, and showed as long as you play the game out, both the good and bad plays, there is a chance of winning.

Unfortunately, the Texans came up on the losing end of this battle. There were many mistakes by both teams, penalties, missed assignments, dropped balls and so forth. Which is evident as to why the game came down to the last play. QB Matt Schaub had an opportunity to make a play in the red zone but ultimately has become the scape goat as the pass intended for Jacoby Jones was intercepted by Raiders defensive back Michael Huff. Schaub only had a couple of options due to time constraints and him rolling out to the left gave him one receiver to throw to. His only other option was to run. However, I can't put this all on Schaub. Look below as I explain

During my time as a player with the Jets, every week during our 2 minute period, we worked on the scramble drill. For the offense, if the quarterback rolled out of the pocket, receivers adjust accordingly. That was their responsibility to get open and make it easier on him. From a defensive standpoint, we used it to work on finding and covering the receiver nearest you. It basically turns into cat coverage. I take this cat, you take that cat and play on.


The Texans were in 12 personnel, 1 back and 2 TE's. Owen Daniels is split wide left with Jacoby Jones in the slot. Joel Dreessen is aligned on the right in the normal TE position, with Kevin Walters off the line with a tight split. To the left, Jacoby fades from the slot position with Daniels running an in cut. On the left Dreessen and Walters run a Curl/Flat or Curl Wide.



As the play develops, Schaub gets pressured and scrambles to his left. Jacoby Jones curls back inward coming back to Schaub. While Schaub is scrambling left, Daniels continues on his in route, Walters sits at the spot where he initially cut off his route but wheels away from Schaub back towards the left. Dreessen's out route takes him out of the play completely.



Going back to the scramble drill, the purpose of this drill is not onlyto get open, but to create space based on which way the play is going. Instead of curling back, Jones should broke down towards the front pilon, Walters should have broken back at a 45 degree angle since Jones pulls his defender with him.



When Raiders defensive back Tyvon Branch commits to Schaub, the space for Walters is created. Daniels would have a chance, but has to see it earlier than he did. The forward momentum of Raiders defensive back Huff would not have allowed him to react back to the throw of Walters, especially if Schaub puts it in a good spot.



Based on the play, it is possible Schaub could have evaded Branch to score. The Texans are usually good about finding open spaces and sitting down in open zones. This play shows one of two things. Lack of situational awareness, or the injury to Andre Johnson, who normally would draw double coverage on a play like this, has more of an impact than perceived.

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It's plausible.....
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One has to wonder if they practice these situations.
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All I see is that Dreessen, Walter, Daniels, and Foster were on the field. I don't blame Schaub nor JJ. This is on Kubiak. With those four lining up on the field... how do you go to the fella who struggled over the years? The last play of the game is a "money" play so you roll with your "money" players. There's a reason why they're money. They find ways to make a play. We had plenty of them on the field.
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All I see is that Dreessen, Walter, Daniels, and Foster were on the field. I don't blame Schaub nor JJ. This is on Kubiak. With those four lining up on the field... how do you go to the fella who struggled over the years? The last play of the game is a "money" play so you roll with your "money" players. There's a reason why they're money. They find ways to make a play. We had plenty of them on the field.
The play was designed to go to the right to the "money" players but the pass protection broke down on the right and flushed Schaub left.
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The play was designed to go to the right to the "money" players but the pass protection broke down on the right and flushed Schaub left.
exactly...Teams take away your strength and make you beat them with your lesser players. Flushing Schaub to his non throwing side was exactly textbook stuff from the Raiders. Our lesser players could not step up when the Raiders took away the prime option.
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Schaub made a POOR THROW.


O(H)X(JJ)--->throw to JJ's right.(his momentum was going right)


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throw it over JJ's head to the back of the end zone and let him make a play.

what did schaub do? threw it straight and under and let huff step in front.BAD THROW. he choked
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The sad part is that the Raiders played with only 10 men on the field.
Even if Schaub can't count quickly enough (due to stress of the situation), he should have realized single coverage on the right and rolled right; the Raiders would have only 3 defenders to cover 4 (including Schaub).
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The play was designed to go to the right to the "money" players but the pass protection broke down on the right and flushed Schaub left.
I didn't quite see that but I'll definitely buy it in that case. Don't get me wrong, I'm not even remotely a Kubiak hater or anything like that. I just have a problem with JJ being utilized as a relief valve in crunch time.

Juh-co-bee Jones.
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I didn't quite see that but I'll definitely buy it in that case. Don't get me wrong, I'm not even remotely a Kubiak hater or anything like that. I just have a problem with JJ being utilized as a relief valve in crunch time.

Juh-co-bee Jones.
Daniels and Foster should be behind Jones in the progression?
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The sad part is that the Raiders played with only 10 men on the field.
Even if Schaub can't count quickly enough (due to stress of the situation), he should have realized single coverage on the right and rolled right; the Raiders would have only 3 defenders to cover 4 (including Schaub).
impossible to roll right. Watch the play. The Raiders did what you are supposed to do...flush a right handed qb to the left. Watch Jones "helping" Schaub. It's so bad its almost funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=uS4AsE9rOQc
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Daniels and Foster should be behind Jones in the progression?
I don't understand your question?

Let me try to restate... like you said... flushing a right-handed QB to the left... With that... I think planning to leave just JJ alone back there with him in that scenario was in poor taste. We had 5 weapons, 4 of them proven (even if only quasi-proven). There was some weak gameplanning there. Throw JJ over the middle along with the other two. Basically, switch out OD and JJ in that route. The play design was fine... its just that it was poor placement of players more than anything else. Jacoby Jones is NOT Marques Colston and it seems that the Texans think he is...
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impossible to roll right. Watch the play. The Raiders did what you are supposed to do...flush a right handed qb to the left. Watch Jones "helping" Schaub. It's so bad its almost funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=uS4AsE9rOQc
Nice video. Here is what I can see from the video:

1. Schaub had enough time to make his initial read. If he had hit Dreesen in the numbers right as he turned around, game winning TD.

2. Schaub did not need to flush left. He could have stepped straight up. If he had, he would have likely seen Dreesen come open in the middle of the end zone (assuming Daniels stayed where he was)

3. Jacboy was absolutely horrific on the play. He runs a quick immediate slant and then basically just stands around with his arms looking weird. It looks to me like a guy who had zero clue the play could possibly come to him panicking at the last second.

4. Most importantly, when Schaub breaks the pocket and is running left with Branch bearing down on him, its obviously a busted play. He had 3 seconds left. A quick throw to the back of the end zone gives us a chance for another snap with time left to call a new play.
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Nice video. Here is what I can see from the video:

1. Schaub had enough time to make his initial read. If he had hit Dreesen in the numbers right as he turned around, game winning TD.
I thought the same thing, before that, he could have hit Walter in the endzone.... just put the ball a head of him & let him make a play.
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2. Schaub did not need to flush left. He could have stepped straight up. If he had, he would have likely seen Dreesen come open in the middle of the end zone (assuming Daniels stayed where he was)
Wade Smith is getting sexually abused right in front of him. I agree he didn't need to start running to the endzone, he could have reset & shot the ball over to Jacoby who was running back towards Schaub at that point, the CB on his back.
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3. Jacboy was absolutely horrific on the play. He runs a quick immediate slant and then basically just stands around with his arms looking weird. It looks to me like a guy who had zero clue the play could possibly come to him panicking at the last second.
Looked to me like he was running to the Pylon, for a fade.... got to the back of the endzone, turned around & ran towards Schaub. He's probably the only one to do anything that resembled a scramble drill. Walter & Daniels are in the endzone run blocking for Schaub I guess.

Once Schaub broke out of the pocket, Jacoby goes back to the back of the endzone & runs left with Schaub.... all Schaub had to do was lob it over Huffs head & give Jacoby a shot.
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4. Most importantly, when Schaub breaks the pocket and is running left with Branch bearing down on him, its obviously a busted play. He had 3 seconds left. A quick throw to the back of the end zone gives us a chance for another snap with time left to call a new play.
Yeah....
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impossible to roll right. Watch the play. The Raiders did what you are supposed to do...flush a right handed qb to the left.
If Schaub had to wait until the play developed to start his roll, he is not vergy good in his pre-snap read.

Either he changes the protection call, or (without changing it) he can take the snap and immediately follow Foster to the right.
This is not the time to stay with the script, not when you know you have an advantage over the D.

On the play just before that, Schaub had scrambled to his right to extend the play. That was without the Raiders messing up on their personnel.
If Schaub can't do it on this play, he's not going to go very far in this league.

Eleven on ten and you let the D dictate the action?
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what did schaub do? threw it straight and under and let huff step in front.BAD THROW. he choked
No because he threw it where a non-brain dead WR would go which is come to the goal line (or head to either pylon) and cut off Huff. JJ went in the absolutely worst direction possible.

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I didn't quite see that but I'll definitely buy it in that case.
Both Kubiak and Schaub stated it was designed to the right.

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If Schaub had to wait until the play developed to start his roll, he is not vergy good in his pre-snap read.
Well both Kubiak and Schaub also said they got exactly the look from the D they wanted when they called the play so failing at pre-snap read wasn't the problem.
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throw it over JJ's head to the back of the end zone and let him make a play.

what did schaub do? threw it straight and under and let huff step in front.BAD THROW. he choked
not really.... jj had position on the db if he had cut the opposite way matt could have thrown a fade to the corner of the zone rlly though it was a botched play that falls 100% on the OL.
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No because he threw it where a non-brain dead WR would go which is come to the goal line (or head to either pylon) and cut off Huff. JJ went in the absolutely worst direction possible.
Yeah..... going to the back pylon was an option.
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Well both Kubiak and Schaub also said they got exactly the look from the D they wanted when they called the play so failing at pre-snap read wasn't the problem.
The SDE lining up far outside; the movement of the TE (Dresseen) out of his release will deter him (the SDE) a little more; Schaub has got to roll right immediately.

There was also a double-team of Myers and Brisiel on the LDT.

If Schaub rolls right and the SDE goes wide with him, Wisnton would have stepped wider as well.
Schaub can then scramble up the C gap just like the play before when he completed the 34yd pass to Dreessen on 3rd and 23.
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