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Old 10-11-2011   #21
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What he is saying is that Shane Lechler (from Sealy), "that guy", is the best punter in the NFL; however, he at times hits some boomers and he out-kicks his coverage. That was Kube's point. If JJ thinks the punt from Lech sets up bad return coverage by the Raiders, he wanted JJ to be aggressive and try and break one. Against a guy who kicks 40 yard punts, you wouldn't do that.
you also don't do that inside your 5 catching the ball over your shoulder. It really doesn't matter who punts the ball. The biggest problem here is condoning the decision. I'd respect Kubiak more if he just called this decision what it was. A bad one.
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Jones pretty much made an awful call and instead of the Coach just saying that was a dumbass move, he just aw-shucks it and tries to make his decision look like it's a decent one in the face of the facts and logic. Someone has to put their foot down and tell it like it is...but that someone isn't Kubiak it seems.
I still agree with Kubiak on this.. If he's got something to say to the player, he needs to say it to the player. He doesn't need to use the media.

If this is about what we here, then it's that reporter's job to say, "really, you want him to do that??"

But that ain't gonna happen in Houston.
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I do not expect the HC to critically break down a player in a press conference.

However, that being said, I also don't expect a HC to blow smoke up our collective butts with takes that make him look freakin' stupid.

"He did run some good routes Barry."

"If its that guy punting, its ok."


This stuff just makes you question his credibility.
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I'll take Kubes at his word. He thinks it was a smart play.
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I'll take Kubes at his word. He thinks it was a smart play.
LOL, exactly.
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I'll take Kubes at his word. He thinks it was a smart play.
lol! yeah, good point. Perspective always needs adjustment.

My phrase of the day works good here: Myopic confabulation is strong with this coach.
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Update on Matt?

Matt is just beat up John. Got a chest bruise. Just really banged up. He's fine. Did work today. Hes beat up. He is day to day. Probably give him rest Wednesday like I did last week. All indications he'll be ok. Barber done for season - lisfranc. Manning got lower leg contusion and is day to day. Duane Brown got knee bruise and is day to day. He did work with the team today.

How concerned are you about Matt getting beat up this early?

Played some very physical football games. Yesterday we played a physical team. Our goal was to protect him. Did good job in the first half as long as we stayed on schedule. Took shots in the 2nd half. We need him on the field. Not a break in sight right now. It's a month away so we gotta be smart with him but he is banged up like a lot of guys after 6 weeks.

Talk about importance of this game and what it could mean?

Playing for the lead in the division, gotta be excited about that. Disappointed about the past 2 weeks. Been in 2 tough games and havent gotten it done. Come in here today, make our corrections, gotta juggle some guys around but going to Tennessee to play a huge football game.

Concerns about running game and where you're going from here?

We're not a bad running football team. 7th in the league but our standard is high. We didnt meet the standard the last 2 weeks. It's the group that is my concern. Everybody. We're not doing the little things that put us at the top of the league. Some of the extra things we do work wise. I'm calling on each one of them to look at themselves. We knew it would be tough yesterday but we tried to stay committed and stay on schedule and for the most part we did that. We gotta run the ball better for our football team to be successful. Our guys know that. It gotta get better with everyone.

Arian pointed finger at himself. Thoughts?

Hopefully you got players that feel that way. Players are smart. They know what it takes to win and be successful. Sometimes you gotta be honest with yourself. It wasnt all him. He did a lot of good things but we need him at the top of his game but he also needs a lot of help too. You want guys battlin' like that. I know we got the right guys.

Andre playing this Sunday?

Made a lot of improvement last week. He felt good. We'll increase his work. I have a hard time saying right now. We'll have to wait and see.

What did they do to slow Owen?

Showed him a lot of respect and doubled him in a lot of situations take away the things he does well. Owen played good in the football game. I gotta do everything I can to get him more involved than he was yesterday.

You mentioned Matt and his chest - is his hip ok?

No his hip is very sore. Its hip and his chest. He is very beat up but practiced and did what he would normally do on a Monday.

Ever reach a point where you had to consider Leinart?

No I didnt feel that way. If Matt was that way he would tell me.

What did you think about Derrick Mason?

For a guy who practiced only 2 days, he made a few plays for us. Had a few mistakes we gotta get corrected. Derrick can help us. Tough situation to be put in in the middle of the year. He is very smart and he'll feel better this week, we'll feel better about what he can do.

Why Kareem and why not Jason?

Kareem had not been healthy. We look at both as starters. He had a great week of practice. Kareem is physical, the Ravens were physical. We started Kareem and he played well. We gave up a big play and that wasnt even his play. We didnt play the coverage we were suppose to. Kareem played well. We were playing good D. I would like Jason to play more but Kareem played well for us too.

How much more to difficult is it without Casey and chance he is back this week?

James gives people a lot things to worry about. I miss him from that standpoint. There is a chance this week. He did workout before the game. Right now still day to day.

Discuss the 4th and 1 decision early and was Kevin Walter open there?

What do you mean if he was open?

Seemed like they didnt have coverage on the near side. Was there a misplay by Matt on that or no?

No, we called a run. We were unsuccessful. No excuse. We need to line up and get a yard. My guys gotta know I got confidence in them. I thought we needed that opportunity. I can sit here and say I would do it again. We need to be able to handle that as a football team.

How did Brooks Reed grade out?

Excited about how he played. Wasnt too big for him. He was active in the game. Played solid, can he do better? Yes. He and Connor played every snap. His future is bright and we need it to be.

Dustup after the Lions-49ers game-- thoughts on that?

I had a lot more on my plate. I got no comment.

Thoughts on Jamison?

One of the things I told the team today, it's a crying shame we arent sitting in here winning that game because Timmy is probably POG. I see a young Antonio. He got a ways to go but it is excited to see him. You'll see more of him.

How do you justify getting him more time?

You'd like those D-linemen coming out playing somewhere in the 40s. You dont want those D-linemen playing 60-65 plays. We would like it to be even like that.

Do you feel like if you are able to make crunchtime plays a couple of game, you'll be able to get over the hump and how much harder to get over the hump when you continually dont do it?

Thats part of this league. Every game is close. You dont see many blowouts in the NFL. In crunchtime the past 2 weeks, we were in position to win games and didnt get it done. Its disappointing but thats the position you want to be in. Guys have to step up. It was all three phases yesterday.

When you watch the film, is it physical or mental mistakes?

A little bit of both I would say. Gotta be able to transfer it from practice to the game.

Ultimately though, does it come down to the players as that sign says the in the back to be accountable and make the plays?

It comes down to all of us Barry. We're a team. We're all involved-- success or failure. We gotta stick together and figure out a way to do it.

How much do you think Andre's absence is affecting Matt?

We're getting played different. No doubt about that. But not affecting where Matt goes with the ball. Some of these situations we've been in, I hope the guys arent looking for him because he's not out there. We're in the situation we're in until he gets back and gotta work through it. Two weeks ago, we moved the ball well and didnt score enough points. Yesterday we go toe to toe with a dang good football team and we needed a new hero. Somebody needed to step up and make that play. Until Andre gets back, someone got to assume that responsibility.

Trindon still a possibility or someone else?

He is but problem is when you have injuries, there is a trickle down effect to ST. You have body issues. I would like Trindon to come up and return some kicks and hopefully we can find a roster spot but we got some other issues to deal with.

When you go into a game of this magnitude, do you play it the same of every other game? Do the players understand the importance of winning this game?

I know they understand. You prepare for every game the same. Everything is the same. You prepare for 4 Q's of football. As for importance? They're all important. We knew we had tough games early in the season and this is the next one up.

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Glad to hear Kubiak elaborate about Kareem and the coachs reasoning on playing him instead of Allen. And interesting to hear him say that that long pass to Bolden wasn't on KJ, but instead a breakdown by one of the safetys.
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Glad to hear Kubiak elaborate about Kareem and the coachs reasoning on playing him instead of Allen. And interesting to hear him say that that long pass to Bolden wasn't on KJ, but instead a breakdown by one of the safetys.
The long play to Bolden was on Joseph, Kareem was nowhere near that one. He was talking about the big play to Smith. Even if it was Manning's play, it showed that Kareem has no closing speed, no make up speed. The phrase, if he's even, he's leavin applies to anyone covered by KJ. If he can't keep his player in front of him, the pass rush has got to get there, or he's in trouble.
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Kubiak on 610 in the 5 o'clock hour.
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Glad to hear Kubiak elaborate about Kareem and the coachs reasoning on playing him instead of Allen. And interesting to hear him say that that long pass to Bolden wasn't on KJ, but instead a breakdown by one of the safetys.
I never thought that the Bolden play was on Kareem...

I didn't even see Kareem on the long Boldin Catches...
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The long play to Bolden was on Joseph, Kareem was nowhere near that one. He was talking about the big play to Smith. Even if it was Manning's play, it showed that Kareem has no closing speed, no make up speed. The phrase, if he's even, he's leavin applies to anyone covered by KJ. If he can't keep his player in front of him, the pass rush has got to get there, or he's in trouble.
yep, the pass rush can't give a QB that much time. There is a tandem at work, and when a QB is given time, it's just a matter of finding the open man because he will be there. I think this is really where Mario is missed, the pressure of the blindside.
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The long play to Bolden was on Joseph, Kareem was nowhere near that one. He was talking about the big play to Smith. Even if it was Manning's play, it showed that Kareem has no closing speed, no make up speed. The phrase, if he's even, he's leavin applies to anyone covered by KJ. If he can't keep his player in front of him, the pass rush has got to get there, or he's in trouble.
OK sounds like I had the 2 plays confused. Thanks for straightening me out.
But it does seem that KJ lacks that all-important long-speed you'd want your corner to possess,
even though he knocked out a sub 4.5 40 at the Combine in Indy.
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The long play to Bolden was on Joseph, Kareem was nowhere near that one. He was talking about the big play to Smith. Even if it was Manning's play, it showed that Kareem has no closing speed, no make up speed. The phrase, if he's even, he's leavin applies to anyone covered by KJ. If he can't keep his player in front of him, the pass rush has got to get there, or he's in trouble.
I think Kubiak is trying to protect his player.

It's like anytime he gets burned or "appears to get burned" the safety was supposed to be over the top.

I don't understand that. Might as well just assign a safety to Kareem because he obviously can't defend those kind of plays....ever...
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It was pretty obvious that Manning screwed up. He's making a habit of it already. It started against the Saints in the preseason.

Joseph just mistimed the other one. Although he probably would have been flagged if Boldin didn't catch it anyway.

The problem with the pass rush was that it was almost all scheme. Wade was able to get guys free at the beginning but it was shored up. Guys weren't coming unblocked in the 2nd half. When it mattered, guys couldn't beat blocks 1 on 1. The Texans miss Mario in the nickle with his hand down, when he did most of his damage.
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I think Kubiak is trying to protect his player.

It's like anytime he gets burned or "appears to get burned" the safety was supposed to be over the top.

I don't understand that. Might as well just assign a safety to Kareem because he obviously can't defend those kind of plays....ever...
I think Kubiak was being pretty honest. Heck, Manning is his player too. Why throw one under the bus & not the other. Everything he said, lines up with what I've seen. Kj is more physical than Allen. The Ravens has some big physical receivers. If you think Jackson was bad, I can't imagine how Allen would have done.

He might not have given up that play, might have even got an Int.. but he may have also been manhandled all game & gave up a TD. He was going to get picked on, you can't deny that.

Kj was putting together a quietly good game. There was that PI, which I think was bull & probably don't get called most of the time. Then there was that big play to Smith, & I think there was one more, where he was in good coverage, but Flacco threw a good ball away from the defense.

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It was Manning's job to HELP but that's still Kareem's man and it still happens every single game he plays. If it was once a month (like Joseph finally giving up a big hit) then it probably wouldn't be as big of a deal.

I honestly believe he would make a quality safety. He's a physical player right? And he needs at least 10 yards of cushion so just go ahead and move him back. Quin is the same type, to slow for CB and his physicality shines at S.

Ugh. I'm just really, really tired of seeing it and talking about it.
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It was Manning's job to HELP but that's still Kareem's man and it still happens every single game he plays. If it was once a month (like Joseph finally giving up a big hit) then it probably wouldn't be as big of a deal.

I honestly believe he would make a quality safety. He's a physical player right? And he needs at least 10 yards of cushion so just go ahead and move him back. Quin is the same type, to slow for CB and his physicality shines at S.

Ugh. I'm just really, really tired of seeing it and talking about it.
Every body gives up cushion. That's just part of the game. Watch other teams, Kj doesn't give up cushion any more than anyone else. What you don't want, is when you see the guy already backing up from that cushion before the ball is snapped.

Dunta was bad about that, Allen is as well.

Kj is a second year player, Joseph is a 6-7 year vet ( I think). I think Kj could have played that much better, whether that was his man or not... Kj didn't give up any scores Sunday, so there's an improvement there. Kj hasn't fallen down this season.. that's improvement there.

How many sacks does Brooks Reed have? If we wanted to, we can tear his game apart & talk all day about how he isn't CMIII. He makes mistakes, he gives up yards, but his overall body of work is good for a rookie.

Same thing goes for Kj. The nature of his position, you're going to see passes completed, even the best CBs get burned (Revis got burned twice that I saw last night).. but you have to take it in context of the game. We didn't lose that game because Flacco exposed a weakness in Kj.

The defense gave up 2 touchdowns, 1 on the QB keeper @ the goal line & the other to Ricky Williams up the middle. Other than that, we held the Ravens to 5 field goals. Kj was part of that.
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I think Kubiak was being pretty honest. Heck, Manning is his player too. Why throw one under the bus & not the other.
Because throwing Kjax under the bus makes him one step closer to being a bust.

And I didn't see him throw Manning under the bus...He was pretty vague really...
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