After 5 games, your expectations have - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

thunderkyss · 10-10-2011

Gone up, gone down, stayed the same?

I'm still pissed, but I saw a team that beat themselves out of a game. Disrespect & everything to the Raiders. They were who we thought they were.

The defense continues to impress me (we have got to do something about that CB#2)...

Offense still baffles me.

It's all about getting hot at the right time. I'm still thinking we make the play-offs, just have no idea how we're going to do it.

Everything I thought I knew... I don't.

What say you?

**Grams** · 10-10-2011

We always seem to find a way to shoot ourselves in the foot.

The Raiders tried hard to hand that game to us yesterday and we tried harder to not take the W from them.

I am still in the show me first mode.

TheMatrix31 · 10-10-2011

Gone down because Andre Johnson will still miss a couple more games, our incredible RB depth is destroyed for some reason or another, and oh yeah, Mario Williams and James Casey are out for the freakin' year.

It's possible to make the playoffs, but it's not going to be because we're a very great team or anything. It'll be by virtue of being in a bad division and having a softer schedule after Baltimore.

RTP2110 · 10-10-2011

I'm still in wait and see mode. We won a game that before the season most of us figured we would lose (PIT). We lost a game most figured we would win (OAK). I think 3-2 was the most likely record after 5 games for us. I just wonder how we'd all feel if we lost to the Steelers and beat Oakland.

That being said, injuries have me reeeeeally uneasy.

**gtexan02** · 10-10-2011

The funny thing to me is that I anticipated us being 3-2 at this point in the season with losses to the Saints and the Steelers.

But the way we lost to Oakland has me thinking we're not nearly as good as we thought we were.

Plus the injuries to AJ, Mario, and everyone else

DexmanC · 10-10-2011

I would've checked option:
"Remained the same - Meh"

I'm still waiting on something different from the previous 5 seasons
to happen. This team still finds flashy ways to lose those
"next step" games. Today would've put them 3 games over .500

They'd have to win AT Baltimore AND AT Tennessee to impress me
at this point in the season.

PS:
We're gonna see how good this defense is without Mario Williams
to gameplan for.

DexmanC · 10-10-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtexan02

The funny thing to me is that I anticipated us being 3-2 at this point in the season with losses to the Saints and the Steelers.

But the way we lost to Oakland has me thinking we're not nearly as good as we thought we were.

Plus the injuries to AJ, Mario, and everyone else

If any of these injuries are being listed on this board, to justify
Kubiak getting another contract should this trend continue through
YEAR SIX, I got two words for ya:

Detroit Lions

**Double Barrel** · 10-10-2011

Unfortunately, after yesterday's lackluster play, I think our fifth annual 5-7 mark is still achievable.

If they make the playoffs, it'll be because the AFC South sucks, not because the Texans dominate and earned it. Sadly, backing into the playoffs will be cause for another Kubiak extension.

**beerlover** · 10-10-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double Barrel

Unfortunately, after yesterday's lackluster play, I think our fifth annual 5-7 mark is still achievable.

If they make the playoffs, it'll be because the AFC South sucks, not because the Texans dominate and earned it. Sadly, backing into the playoffs will be cause for another Kubiak extension.

unfortunate but true

**Khari** · 10-10-2011

Decreased...injuries and we should have won that game yesterday..

cdollaz · 10-10-2011

I still expect them to back into the playoffs because we are playing an easy schedule, relative to other possible contenders, and are probably the best team in a really weak division. That said, I really don't consider us anything more than a little above average team at this point. Hopefully they improve over the year, but there is ZERO excuse for losing that game yesterday against that level of team, at home, against that QB. Pathetic.

**SheTexan** · 10-10-2011

I'm stayin the same. I predicted a 10-6 season and I'm stickin with it. Injuries hurt, BUT, if we are a playoff bound team, the rooks etc will have to step it up and do their part to get us there. Football is a team sport and the stronger guys have got to help out the weaker one's, and the newbies need to get on the fast track PRONTO!!. They better pay attention or our year is over before we get to the middle.

TheMatrix31 · 10-10-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double Barrel

Unfortunately, after yesterday's lackluster play, I think our fifth annual 5-7 mark is still achievable.

If they make the playoffs, it'll be because the AFC South sucks, not because the Texans dominate and earned it. Sadly, backing into the playoffs will be cause for another Kubiak extension.

Well, that's where we disagree. I don't give a **** if we "back in", as long as we're in.

The Jets backed in two years in a row by lucking the hell out and they're slobbered on by absolutely everybody as the next greatest team of all-time.

We're not in the position to care about style points or making the playoffs "because we earned it".

robroy72 · 10-10-2011

I actually thought we'd be 3-2 after 5... I thought the Steelers / Raiders results would have been switched. My main confidence came from a feeling we could have a 100% divisional record this year.

Colts W
Raiders W
Miami W

Steelers L
Saints L

Sorry if theres too much common sense and lack of emotion for a Monday after a loss like that!

Yankee_In_TX · 10-10-2011

Decreased a few games and we will make the playoffs, that is not an option (our division is so God-awful...).

EVOLVIST · 10-10-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by DexmanC

I would've checked option:
"Remained the same - Meh"

I'm still waiting on something different from the previous 5 seasons
to happen. This team still finds flashy ways to lose those
"next step" games. Today would've put them 3 games over .500

They'd have to win AT Baltimore AND AT Tennessee to impress me
at this point in the season.

PS:
We're gonna see how good this defense is without Mario Williams
to gameplan for.

And the poor man's Clay Matthews is actually the poor man's AJ Hawk. Brooks Reed has showed squat so far.

Yes, the Texans would have to show some True Grit in the next couple of games for the team, the fans, and every lepton and neutrino in the universe to feel good about them.

No, I don't feel the same about the Texans as I did before the start of the season. I don't know what I feel - but it's not the same.

TexanBacker93 · 10-10-2011

Regardless of everything else I still think they back into the playoffs. The Titans won't continue at that level and I think we actually have a good chance to go 5-1 or even 6-0 in the division. With games against Cleveland and Carolina at home and a road games against Cincinnati and Tampa this team should still get to 10 wins.

I actually had us going 4-1 through 5 and then losing at Baltimore. The team now has to go out and win one on the road to make up for a game they shouldn't have lost. This is taking nothing away from the Raiders. That's a good team and might have a chance in the weak AFC west. The Texans were the top seed in the AFC going into the week. They weren't going to run the table and finish that way, but I want to see this team do more than just get in the playoffs. Getting a bye in the first round can get your banged up players some rest and depending on how the other AFC divisional game goes you could find yourself with 2 home playoff games. That's much harder when you get in as a divisional winner with a worse record than wild card teams.

The injuries shouldn't matter. If your team is good enough you can overcome them. The Pats went 10-6 the season they lost Brady for the year. They didn't make the playoffs, but most years that would be good enough.

Teams lose games they shouldn't lose. It happens all the time. The good teams bounce back and win the next few games. This week will determine how good the Texans are. I think they still have a losing mindset and it comes from playing for a loser coach. The talent is there to win. Now they have to prove they can do it.

Just win baby.

robroy72 · 10-10-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by EVOLVIST

And the poor man's Clay Matthews is actually the poor man's AJ Hawk. Brooks Reed has showed squat so far.

He was interviewed on the TV last night; he doesn't come over as having a great deal of confidence. I'm hoping that he'll grow in that regard as he comes more into the team, he seems to have all the attributes.

**hradhak** · 10-10-2011

We'll make the playoffs but our chances of going anywhere with the injuries we have just makes me think we'll be 9-7 in a weak division.

Yankee_In_TX · 10-10-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double Barrel

Unfortunately, after yesterday's lackluster play, I think our fifth annual 5-7 mark is still achievable.

If they make the playoffs, it'll be because the AFC South sucks, not because the Texans dominate and earned it. Sadly, backing into the playoffs will be cause for another Kubiak extension.

Yup - I would rather not make it in than get in and get embarassed. But, maybe we can pull aSeattle?

View Poll Results: After five games, your expectations have:
Remained the Same - Texans will make the play-offs	34	53.97%
Increased a couple of games - Texans will make the play-offs	0	0%
Decreased a couple of games - Texans will miss the play-offs	24	38.10%
Remained the Same - Texans never had a chance to make the play-offs	5	7.94%
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10-10-2011	#1
thunderkyss Hopkins Beyatch Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pt Arthur Texas Age: 40 Posts: 26,068 Rep Power: 52564	After 5 games, your expectations have Gone up, gone down, stayed the same? I'm still pissed, but I saw a team that beat themselves out of a game. Disrespect & everything to the Raiders. They were who we thought they were. The defense continues to impress me (we have got to do something about that CB#2)... Offense still baffles me. It's all about getting hot at the right time. I'm still thinking we make the play-offs, just have no idea how we're going to do it. Everything I thought I knew... I don't. What say you? __________________ I swear it's for real this time!

10-10-2011	#3
TheMatrix31 Take A Bow Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: California Posts: 6,026 Rep Power: 14184	Re: After 5 games, your expectations have Gone down because Andre Johnson will still miss a couple more games, our incredible RB depth is destroyed for some reason or another, and oh yeah, Mario Williams and James Casey are out for the freakin' year. It's possible to make the playoffs, but it's not going to be because we're a very great team or anything. It'll be by virtue of being in a bad division and having a softer schedule after Baltimore.

10-10-2011	#4
RTP2110 Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Shore Age: 33 Posts: 2,782 Rep Power: 1845	Re: After 5 games, your expectations have I'm still in wait and see mode. We won a game that before the season most of us figured we would lose (PIT). We lost a game most figured we would win (OAK). I think 3-2 was the most likely record after 5 games for us. I just wonder how we'd all feel if we lost to the Steelers and beat Oakland. That being said, injuries have me reeeeeally uneasy.

10-10-2011	#5
gtexan02 Working? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boston Age: 29 Posts: 15,336 Rep Power: 34917	Re: After 5 games, your expectations have The funny thing to me is that I anticipated us being 3-2 at this point in the season with losses to the Saints and the Steelers. But the way we lost to Oakland has me thinking we're not nearly as good as we thought we were. Plus the injuries to AJ, Mario, and everyone else __________________ Adios until next season. See you then

10-10-2011	#2
Grams Subscribed Contributor Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Humble, TX Posts: 1,118 Rep Power: 5466	Re: After 5 games, your expectations have We always seem to find a way to shoot ourselves in the foot. The Raiders tried hard to hand that game to us yesterday and we tried harder to not take the W from them. I am still in the show me first mode. __________________ All that is necessary for Evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

10-10-2011	#6
DexmanC Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,422 Rep Power: 13826	Re: After 5 games, your expectations have I would've checked option: "Remained the same - Meh" I'm still waiting on something different from the previous 5 seasons to happen. This team still finds flashy ways to lose those "next step" games. Today would've put them 3 games over .500 They'd have to win AT Baltimore AND AT Tennessee to impress me at this point in the season. PS: We're gonna see how good this defense is without Mario Williams to gameplan for. __________________ R.I.P. EXCUSES (2006-2009) The First Twelve Games (Where Playoff Teams Are Made): 2007: (5-7) \| 2008: (5-7) \| 2009: (5-7) \| 2010: (5-7) \| 2011: (9-3)

10-10-2011	#8
Double Barrel Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Section: Gridiron, Texas Age: 46 Posts: 27,242 Rep Power: 84022	Re: After 5 games, your expectations have Unfortunately, after yesterday's lackluster play, I think our fifth annual 5-7 mark is still achievable. If they make the playoffs, it'll be because the AFC South sucks, not because the Texans dominate and earned it. Sadly, backing into the playoffs will be cause for another Kubiak extension. __________________ "FOOTBALL IS ONLY A DIVERSION." ~ HOUSTON TEXANS In Memoriam - 20 little angels

10-10-2011	#10
Khari Administrator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, Tx and Surrounding Area Section: Varies Age: 35 Posts: 5,419 Rep Power: 9407	Re: After 5 games, your expectations have Decreased...injuries and we should have won that game yesterday.. __________________

10-10-2011	#11
cdollaz Veteran Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 417 Rep Power: 369	Re: After 5 games, your expectations have I still expect them to back into the playoffs because we are playing an easy schedule, relative to other possible contenders, and are probably the best team in a really weak division. That said, I really don't consider us anything more than a little above average team at this point. Hopefully they improve over the year, but there is ZERO excuse for losing that game yesterday against that level of team, at home, against that QB. Pathetic.

10-10-2011	#14
robroy72 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 353 Row N Posts: 247 Rep Power: 2163	Re: After 5 games, your expectations have I actually thought we'd be 3-2 after 5... I thought the Steelers / Raiders results would have been switched. My main confidence came from a feeling we could have a 100% divisional record this year. Colts W Raiders W Miami W Steelers L Saints L Sorry if theres too much common sense and lack of emotion for a Monday after a loss like that!

10-10-2011	#17
TexanBacker93 Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cypress, TX Age: 42 Posts: 1,618 Rep Power: 3447	Re: After 5 games, your expectations have Regardless of everything else I still think they back into the playoffs. The Titans won't continue at that level and I think we actually have a good chance to go 5-1 or even 6-0 in the division. With games against Cleveland and Carolina at home and a road games against Cincinnati and Tampa this team should still get to 10 wins. I actually had us going 4-1 through 5 and then losing at Baltimore. The team now has to go out and win one on the road to make up for a game they shouldn't have lost. This is taking nothing away from the Raiders. That's a good team and might have a chance in the weak AFC west. The Texans were the top seed in the AFC going into the week. They weren't going to run the table and finish that way, but I want to see this team do more than just get in the playoffs. Getting a bye in the first round can get your banged up players some rest and depending on how the other AFC divisional game goes you could find yourself with 2 home playoff games. That's much harder when you get in as a divisional winner with a worse record than wild card teams. The injuries shouldn't matter. If your team is good enough you can overcome them. The Pats went 10-6 the season they lost Brady for the year. They didn't make the playoffs, but most years that would be good enough. Teams lose games they shouldn't lose. It happens all the time. The good teams bounce back and win the next few games. This week will determine how good the Texans are. I think they still have a losing mindset and it comes from playing for a loser coach. The talent is there to win. Now they have to prove they can do it. Just win baby.

10-10-2011	#19
hradhak Site Contributor Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,279 Rep Power: 1733	Re: After 5 games, your expectations have We'll make the playoffs but our chances of going anywhere with the injuries we have just makes me think we'll be 9-7 in a weak division.

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