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Old 10-10-2011   #161
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i think theres a good chance this is kubes last year. and the scary thing is i see mcnair making wade the head coach

^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^ Is my greatest fear that I and others have voiced since he was hired.
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All those disappointments from the Oilers, and now we have this to put up with. WTF did Houston ever do to deserve this crap?

Will someone please explain to me how much worse Wade is as a head coach than Kubiak? I'm moving quickly back to the Fire Kubiak bandwagon if we end up losing the next two games, which now seems likely.
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Will someone please explain to me how much worse Wade is as a head coach than Kubiak? I'm moving quickly back to the Fire Kubiak bandwagon if we end up losing the next two games, which now seems likely.
It's not that he would be worse per say.......but I don't see him as doing any better. That is the issue. (and judging by how coddled Kubiak has been by McNair, Wade being coach would probably be minimum 5 years regardless of W-L record....eg Kubiak)

I think a lot of us would like to see a coach like Cowher, Gruden, etc, someone who has a bad attitude and rings to back it up.


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When are some of you ever gonna get it through your ********* heads that Cowher is never gonna be the next head coach?

They lose, and senseless pipedreams just goes flying everywhere.

Some of you flat out don't deserve a winning football team.
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Screw it then, lets just hire Rich Kotite.
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Jim Schwarz is well on his way to building in Detroit what he built
in Tennessee (that damn DEFENSE,) and they have a Franchise QB,
Franchize WR, and a 4-0 record with THREE WINS ON THE ROAD.

This is only his SECOND YEAR after inheriting an 0-16 TEAM.
He's already accomplished more than Gary Kubiak has, just
by the start of his 2011 season. Why is Kubiak TOLERATED
HERE FOR SO FRICKIN' LONG???

The offense LOOKS powerful. The defense LOOKS good, but they
HAVE NEVER BEEN THREE GAMES OVER .500

If ya'll feel me, just breathe deep, and watch this team crawl to mediocrity
or fall off. That's been 5 straight years under Kubiak, will year SIX be
any different?

Insanity = consistently doing the same thing while hoping for a different
result (perfectly describes the tenure of Gary Kubiak)

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When are some of you ever gonna get it through your ********* heads that Cowher is never gonna be the next head coach?

They lose, and senseless pipedreams just goes flying everywhere.

Some of you flat out don't deserve a winning football team.
You're right. Some of you don't.
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All those disappointments from the Oilers, and now we have this to put up with. WTF did Houston ever do to deserve this crap?

Will someone please explain to me how much worse Wade is as a head coach than Kubiak? I'm moving quickly back to the Fire Kubiak bandwagon if we end up losing the next two games, which now seems likely.

We find ourselves at 3-4 and Kubiak will think he's being burned at the stake the heat will get so bad.
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[rant]

Jim Schwarz is well on his way to building in Detroit what he built
in Tennessee (that damn DEFENSE,) and they have a Franchise QB,
Franchize WR, and a 4-0 record with THREE WINS ON THE ROAD.

This is only his SECOND YEAR after inheriting an 0-16 TEAM.
He's already accomplished more than Gary Kubiak has, just
by the start of his 2011 season. Why is Kubiak TOLERATED
HERE FOR SO FRICKIN' LONG???

The offense LOOKS powerful. The defense LOOKS good, but they
HAVE NEVER BEEN THREE GAMES OVER .500

If ya'll feel me, just breathe deep, and watch this team crawl to mediocrity
or fall off. That's been 5 straight years under Kubiak, will year SIX be
any different?

Insanity = consistently doing the same thing while hoping for a different
result (perfectly describes the tenure of Gary Kubiak)

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Kubiak's defense has always been "Well, he took over a terrible team and had to re-build. They were 2-14."

Fine, but, it doesn't get much worse than 0-16, folks. The Lions were TERRIBLE a few years ago.

The way the NFL is structured now, it takes three, maybe four, years to re-build a team. And if a team is REALLY bad, I'll give them a longer leash, and say four, maybe five years.

Technically, the Lions shouldn't be as good as their are. But, they are.

Meanwhile, we wait.
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Also, what's really head-banging about this whole thing is that we could have been, should have been, in like, year 3 of a new coach's system. Ugh.
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We find ourselves at 3-4 and Kubiak will think he's being burned at the stake the heat will get so bad.
And now with all the injuries, he might get a flyer from Uncle Bob.

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If Texans don't make the playoffs in weakest AFC South since franchise inception will force termination regardless of whatever love affair exists with it's Head Coach
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Conservative. In the 1st half we have a shot for a 48 yard field goal, and we punt, we had the ball 3 and 1 2 times in their territory and we punt. We are so predictable on play calling it gets a little disturbing at times.

I like Kubiak and what he can do with an offense, BUT to never take any risks, to never go for it and to just go pure flat on playing and play calling is inexcusable.

and these refs are being slightly biased.
It's called Aggie football.....have you watched them play at all. Gary Kubiak is a "aggie man" and he coaches like one too. However the dumbest thing he did yesterday was challenge that Joel Dreessen catch.. I was begging him not to throw that flag and as soon as I saw the red flag come out, I started cursing at my T.V. Nobody pisses away timeouts better than Gary "I couldn't manage a clock if my life depended on it" Kubiak. That play had 0 chance of getting overturned and the only thing he was doing there was pissing away a crucial second half timeout....which might've cost us the game.

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Hmm. Well, two things.

1) Mike Shanahan is not nice. Dude would eat his kid if he had to in order to win a game. When the Broncos won those two Super Bowls back to back, their offense was "foot on throat" full throttle. Which leads to my next point...

2) John Elway. Kubiak still thinks he has John Elway. He doesn't. Shanahan's meanness and John Elway's talent is what drove the Broncos.
3) Terrell Davis - Even Elway couldn't win a Super Bowl without a good running back.

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And now with all the injuries, he might get a flyer from Uncle Bob.

Don't forget the lock-out!
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When are some of you ever gonna get it through your ********* heads that Cowher is never gonna be the next head coach?

They lose, and senseless pipedreams just goes flying everywhere.

Some of you flat out don't deserve a winning football team.
Your bravado of lashing out at fans for wanting a winning regime is so tiring and old at this point. Show me a regime of a HC/GM that have a history of winning here or that could put up back to back seasons of winning or title contention in this city, and then you'll stop hearing about a HC change. But for you sit back and act like fans are so irrational in year 6 of a regime that should have been axed last off season is pretty old at this stage.

We'll make the playoffs this season though, and your boy Gary will get his extension due to being in a terrible division where Manning sat out.
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Also, what's really head-banging about this whole thing is that we could have been, should have been, in like, year 3 of a new coach's system. Ugh.
No doubt. All the consternation about change being disruptive seems misplaced. Something needs to knock this team off the right path and onto the path to improvement.
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We find ourselves at 3-4 and Kubiak will think he's being burned at the stake the heat will get so bad.
Would anyone be surprised if McNair fires Kubiak after a three game losing streak?
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Would anyone be surprised if McNair fires Kubiak after a three game losing streak?
Kubiak would never get fired by Mcnair in mid season. At this point though, it's hard to even gauge what it would take for Bob to ever pull the cord on Gary since a 6-10 season in year 5 didn't even do it when he was already on his 2nd DC.
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When are some of you ever gonna get it through your ********* heads that Cowher is never gonna be the next head coach?

They lose, and senseless pipedreams just goes flying everywhere.

Some of you flat out don't deserve a winning football team.
WTF are you talking about with this "we don't deserve a winning football team" nonsense? How about you freaking give us one first and then we'll decide for ourselves if we deserve one or not.

I do however know something we "don't deserve" though....and that's the crap that we've consistently have had to put up with over the last decade with this team.
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The way the NFL is structured now, it takes three, maybe four, years to re-build a team. And if a team is REALLY bad, I'll give them a longer leash, and say four, maybe five years.

Meanwhile, we wait.
I don't know if we can truly say that. There are too many teams with a decade worth of suck that says different. The 49ers, the Lions, the Bills look good right now, but the season isn't over just yet. Those teams have been at the bottom of the NFL for decades. New Coaches, new QBs, new GMs, you name it.

Once you get to the bottom it's difficult to get back up. Changing coaches out (imo) only makes it more difficult. You have to hope the guy before you was doing the right things (Mike Singletary in San Francisco for instance). W-Ls are everything but when you're at the bottom of the league & been there for a while, you've got to change the mindsets of the organization & that's not an easy task.

I honestly have no idea how long it takes.
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