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Old 10-10-2011   #201
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I fully understand I'm outnumbered 50-1 around here, but that makes no difference to me, because I think all this Kubiak bashing is totally irrational.

It was not Kubiak's fault that they lost yesterday. Funny how it took 24 hours before "some" of you started realizing that.

And because I disagree with the sentiment around here, I'm Kubiak's "boyfriend" or whatever.

Kubiak's demise . . .
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It was not Kubiak's fault that they lost yesterday.
When has it ever been Kubiak's fault, Marcus? No one is more consistent in defense of Kubiak than you. If you believe that he did an adequate job in preparing this team to win on Sunday, you're looking at a different game than I am.

This team is a rudderless ship. We finally have a leader on defense (Phillips), but that's not enough. Maybe, just maybe this team backs into a playoff spot in the weakest division in the AFC. But they will get there in spite of Gary Kubiak. Not because of him.
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I fully understand I'm outnumbered 50-1 around here, but that makes no difference to me, because I think all this Kubiak bashing is totally irrational.

It was not Kubiak's fault that they lost yesterday. Funny how it took 24 hours before "some" of you started realizing that.

And because I disagree with the sentiment around here, I'm Kubiak's "boyfriend" or whatever.

Kubiak's demise . . .
Its not that you dont think any of the losses are kubiaks fault, its just how you talk to people. Like you know best and everyone else is just dumb as hell and is always wrong. Can you even juggle the thought of "thinking" about even one loss being Kubiaks ? ASK anyone here i have ALWAYS supported kubiak and often times looked stupid when i did.

I still believe Kubiak can be a good head coach BUT he needs to make some personal changes and grow a pair. When i say Kubiaks demise i simply mean all these things will be the fall of his coaching career in houston IF he dont fix them.
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When has it ever been Kubiak's fault, Marcus? No one is more consistent in defense of Kubiak than you. If you believe that he did an adequate job in preparing this team to win on Sunday, you're looking at a different game than I am.

This team is a rudderless ship. We finally have a leader on defense (Phillips), but that's not enough. Maybe, just maybe this team backs into a playoff spot in the weakest division in the AFC. But they will get there in spite of Gary Kubiak. Not because of him.
Explain to me how he didn't do an adequate in preparing this team to win, Lucky. I got the game on tape. Give me specifics, so I can go back to that part of the game, and see what it is that you're referring to.
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Explain to me how he didn't do an adequate in preparing this team to win, Lucky. I got the game on tape. Give me specifics, so I can go back to that part of the game, and see what it is that you're referring to.
* No answer to what the Raider were doing up front to stop the run.

* No answer to clearing or creating passing lanes for Schaub to throw in.

* Another horrible job of clock management in the 4th quarter, allowing the offense to huddle on their 5 minute FG drive.

* Not instructing Schaub that he had to prepare for 2 plays at the end of the game.

I'm not even getting into the special teams blunders. We know he's not responsible for that, right? Accomplish any of the 4 items above, and the Texans likely win against an inferior opponent at home (by the skin of their teeth). But he doesn't. The Texans failed. And your boy Kubiak failed. Again.
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* No answer to what the Raider were doing up front to stop the run.

* No answer to clearing or creating passing lanes for Schaub to throw in.

* Another horrible job of clock management in the 4th quarter, allowing the offense to huddle on their 5 minute FG drive.

* Not instructing Schaub that he had to prepare for 2 plays at the end of the game.

I'm not even getting into the special teams blunders. We know he's not responsible for that, right? Accomplish any of the 4 items above, and the Texans likely win against an inferior opponent at home (by the skin of their teeth). But he doesn't. The Texans failed. And your boy Kubiak failed. Again.
Not kicking a FG when we have it on the opponents 37 yard line and punting instead. Good call, NOT
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Kubiak's defense has always been "Well, he took over a terrible team and had to re-build. They were 2-14."

Fine, but, it doesn't get much worse than 0-16, folks. The Lions were TERRIBLE a few years ago.

The way the NFL is structured now, it takes three, maybe four, years to re-build a team. And if a team is REALLY bad, I'll give them a longer leash, and say four, maybe five years.

Technically, the Lions shouldn't be as good as their are. But, they are.

Meanwhile, we wait.
Even worse, we took their castoff craptastic in as our own backup and he manages to stick around for more than 1 season at a suspect salary.
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We already have the defense he wanted ...

One thing though ... he's on the HOF ballot for this year. They don't get voted in if there's a chance they could still coach.

Wonder what's more important to him? A yellow jacket or another ring?
He's got a "all world legacy" with the Steelers; why would he come out of retirement to risk that?

He won't come here. You're hitching your wagon to the wrong star.
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* No answer to what the Raider were doing up front to stop the run.
The Raiders had no answer either. They won the game, so obviously this "answer" isn't really all that important.
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* No answer to clearing or creating passing lanes for Schaub to throw in.
I thought he finished with 416 yards. Did he do that in a bubble?
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* Another horrible job of clock management in the 4th quarter, allowing the offense to huddle on their 5 minute FG drive.
They huddled?!! :gasp:
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* Not instructing Schaub that he had to prepare for 2 plays at the end of the game.
How do we know he didn't send two plays in? How do we know those weren't his exact instructions?
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I'm not even getting into the special teams blunders. We know he's not responsible for that, right? Accomplish any of the 4 items above, and the Texans likely win against an inferior opponent at home (by the skin of their teeth). But he doesn't. The Texans failed. And your boy Kubiak failed. Again.
I think Kubiak screwed up by not planning on taking advantage of their 4th string CB..... we should have beat that drum all day long.

We're in week five & the true blocking fullback has seen the field what... 5 times? We run the clock out against the Colts, Miami, & Pittsburgh & we can't get Vickers on the field until that play is called?

I Blame Kubiak for not figuring out why Matt struggles to get started... this goes back to last year.

Rolando McClain was in & out of the game, was there no way for us to take advantage of that?

4th & 2 on their 37 after they've shown no ability to move the ball whatsover..... we don't go for the field goal.. we don't go for it.. we punt?????? What I'd have much rather seen a fake punt there.

We finish the 1st half with 42 yards on 12 carries. How in the hell you going to come out in the second half.... run, run, pass.... really??

Dressen/Daniels had an excellent first half.... what happened to them in the second?

None of those speak to the Texans' preparedness for the game, I think they were prepared... they just didn't adjust.
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Not kicking a FG when we have it on the opponents 37 yard line and punting instead. Good call, NOT
That would have been a 55-56 yd FG. Do you really think that Rackers is dependable from that far out? I don't really think so.
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LMFAO!!! @ all the "doom and gloom""!!! Some of y'all should do yourselves a favor and refrain from posting for a minimum of 24 hours after a game...



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Kubiak supporters, if the Texans finish 8-8 or worse would he still have support with all of you?
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I thought he finished with 416 yards. Did he do that in a bubble?
That shows how meaningless yards passing has become in the NFL. Schaub threw passes in the game, completing less than 50%. I can't believe anyone who actually watched the game would believe the passing game was on. The seven tipped passes (yes, 7) were costly. One, turned into 3 points for the Raiders.
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That shows how meaningless yards passing has become in the NFL. Schaub threw passes in the game, completing less than 50%. I can't believe anyone who actually watched the game would believe the passing game was on. The seven tipped passes (yes, 7) were costly. One, turned into 3 points for the Raiders.
You said Kubiak couldn't figure out how to open up the passing lanes.

The man threw for 416 yards.

There were 7 tipped passes, but he found a way to open up at least a few lanes for 416 yards. 116 for Foster, I'll give you those & say they were all behind the LOS, that still leaves 300 yards where lanes were open enough for throwing.
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All the Texans fans bitching about Kubiak and upper management should take a look at tonight's Bears game, Lovie Smith, and Jerry Angelo.

Yeesh.

And, just like it's a union card check or something, let it be known that I'm not very much a Kubiak supporter anymore. But just because I don't care for his game management doesn't mean I'm going to blame every single little thing on him no matter what.
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I fully understand I'm outnumbered 50-1 around here, but that makes no difference to me, because I think all this Kubiak bashing is totally irrational.

It was not Kubiak's fault that they lost yesterday. Funny how it took 24 hours before "some" of you started realizing that.

And because I disagree with the sentiment around here, I'm Kubiak's "boyfriend" or whatever.

Kubiak's demise . . .
To be honest, I'm pretty sure you get off on it.

It's Kubiak's fault that "they are what they are". He's been the head coach for 6 years. Everything you see out there comes from Gary Kubiak to one degree or another. He's perpetually five games short of .500 and can't explain why things didn't work today..... and he never will.
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All the Texans fans bitching about Kubiak and upper management should take a look at tonight's Bears game, Lovie Smith, and Jerry Angelo.

Yeesh.

And, just like it's a union card check or something, let it be known that I'm not very much a Kubiak supporter anymore. But just because I don't care for his game management doesn't mean I'm going to blame every single little thing on him no matter what.
Are you honestly using a HC that just came off of an NFC championship game and has been to a SB before as some sort of example to suggest that the Kubiak regime hasn't been that bad?? Really??

How about looking at the other team that is playing tonight which is the Detroit Lions who are another team that have turned around faster than we have and this time it's the Lions. The Lions. The Lions. I'll say it one more time. The Lions.
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I knew that was going to be the response.

I shouldn't have said anything.

I willingly banned myself from the political forum. Might just ban myself from the football forum outside of gamethreads.

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* No answer to what the Raider were doing up front to stop the run.

* No answer to clearing or creating passing lanes for Schaub to throw in.

* Another horrible job of clock management in the 4th quarter, allowing the offense to huddle on their 5 minute FG drive.

* Not instructing Schaub that he had to prepare for 2 plays at the end of the game.

I'm not even getting into the special teams blunders. We know he's not responsible for that, right? Accomplish any of the 4 items above, and the Texans likely win against an inferior opponent at home (by the skin of their teeth). But he doesn't. The Texans failed. And your boy Kubiak failed. Again.
Raiders were loading up to stop the run, so Kubiak started going to lots of play-action and bootlegs. Raiders stayed disciplined, blowing up several bootlegs, and Texans had trouble blocking the D-line, resulting in lots of hurries and tipped passes. Raiders covered the tight ends close, and seemed to have a man tight on Foster every time he split the pocket. Receivers seemed open, but Jacoby ran terrible routes and the other ones just aren't very good.

Sometimes you just lose. It doesn't always have to be somebody's "fault."
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So was it his fault when we executed in three wins this year? I'm not absolving him of blame. His playcalling was terrible today. But it was a shortened playbook, since the best WR in football was out. I know, I know, it's Kubiak's and management's fault for no offensive depth.
Look at the Texans in weeks 5-8 for the last 2 years. 0-4 each of those years.
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