Kubiaks Demise. - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

**EllisUnit** · 10-09-2011

Conservative. In the 1st half we have a shot for a 48 yard field goal, and we punt, we had the ball 3 and 1 2 times in their territory and we punt. We are so predictable on play calling it gets a little disturbing at times.

I like Kubiak and what he can do with an offense, BUT to never take any risks, to never go for it and to just go pure flat on playing and play calling is unexcusable.

and these refs are being slightly biased.

tedr · 10-09-2011

Not sure where Kubiak gets the reputation of being an offensive genius. This half has been absolutely pathetic, even taking into accout not having Andre. The defense has been pretty shabby as well.

ziggy29 · 10-09-2011

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Originally Posted by EllisUnit

I like Kubiak and what he can do with an offense, BUT to never take any risks, to never go for it and to just go pure flat on playing and play calling is unexcusable.

You just perfectly described the Kubiak philosophy in the 2nd half when leading at halftime -- "play not to lose". That's a good way to get beat in the NFL. You can justify "playing not to lose" in the Indy game, but when the game is still close you should not be deviating from your first half game plan. But Gary Kubiak teams almost always do. This is, by *far*, my greatest criticism of his coaching and if he could overcome this tendency I think he'd be a very good one.

10-09-2011

I long for the day we finally fire this piece of ****. I have never wanted to see someone lose their job so bad in my entire life. Offensive genius my ass.

Kubiak is a fraud that got his name because of Mike Shanahan, Steve Young, and John Elway. Without those guys, Kubiak would be a nobody.

**EllisUnit** · 10-09-2011

well finally a smart call. wow that was tough

ziggy29 · 10-09-2011

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I long for the day we finally fire this piece of ****. I have never wanted to see someone lose their job so bad in my entire life. Offensive genius my ass.

I don't think it's that he can't coach an offense per se. I think it's a matter of ripping out all the higher risk/higher reward plays from the playbook when "nursing" a second half lead. (The type of plays that helped them to a strong first half.) By now every head coach and DC in the NFL knows the type of conservative game Kubes will call in such a situation, and they can pin their ears back and concentrate on stopping that stuff.

Mr. Texan · 10-09-2011

TexanSam · 10-09-2011

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Originally Posted by ziggy29

I don't think it's that he can't coach an offense per se. I think it's a matter of ripping out all the higher risk/higher reward plays from the playbook when "nursing" a second half lead. (The type of plays that helped them to a strong first half.) By now every head coach and DC in the NFL knows the type of conservative game Kubes will call in such a situation, and they can pin their ears back and concentrate on stopping that stuff.

This. I think Kubiak knows how to design good offensive plays, but he doesn't know how to manage a game.

10-09-2011

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Originally Posted by ziggy29

I don't think it's that he can't coach an offense per se. I think it's a matter of ripping out all the higher risk/higher reward plays from the playbook when "nursing" a second half lead. (The type of plays that helped them to a strong first half.) By now every head coach and DC in the NFL knows the type of conservative game Kubes will call in such a situation, and they can pin their ears back and concentrate on stopping that stuff.

Which is why I say he can't coach an offense. If defensive coordinators are figuring him out this easily, then he is far from an offensive genius.

You can't be this predictable and be considered a good NFL coach.

**Runner** · 10-09-2011

Why would Kubes' job be in danger? He is the same as he's always been. He may get an extension this week.

**EllisUnit** · 10-09-2011

see why, a short simple pass to get yards maybe a draw, to get close but that, a sack

Texecutioner · 10-09-2011

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Originally Posted by Ckw

I long for the day we finally fire this piece of ****. I have never wanted to see someone lose their job so bad in my entire life. Offensive genius my ass.

Kubiak is a fraud that got his name because of Mike Shanahan, Steve Young, and John Elway. Without those guys, Kubiak would be a nobody.

I've been saying this for years when people have proclaimed this guy as this offensive guru of the league. He's been a great stat guy from a yard standpoint with his offenses, but has never been a great game day decision coach in my eyes and his teams always seem to lack that killer instinct. If the Texans lose they're still 3-2 at least for now though. The season isn't in jeapordy just yet.

ziggy29 · 10-09-2011

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If the Texans lose they're still 3-2 at least for now though. The season isn't in jeapordy just yet.

At least since all the other teams in the division already lost. But what a possibly squandered opportunity to gain ground, unless this team can pull out a highly improbable finish.

TexanSam · 10-09-2011

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I've been saying this for years when people have proclaimed this guy as this offensive guru of the league. He's been a great stat guy from a yard standpoint with his offenses, but has never been a great game day decision coach in my eyes and his teams always seem to lack that killer instinct. If the Texans lose they're still 3-2 at least for now though. The season isn't in jeapordy just yet.

He's the Wade Phillips of offense. We have two good coordinators on the team. Unfortunately one is the head coach.

Texecutioner · 10-09-2011

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He's the Wade Phillips of offense. We have two good coordinators on the team. Unfortunately one is the head coach.

Yep, but Wade can at least say that he's head coached a team that went 13-3 and achieved a bye in the playoffs first round and also coached an 11-5 team that went to the 2nd round of the playoffs before. Kubiak hasn't came close to anything like that as HC. I think this season we'll do no worse than 10-6 though. I'm not to worried at this stage just yet.

ziggy29 · 10-09-2011

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I think this season we'll do no worse than 10-6 though. I'm not to worried at this stage just yet.

Though that depends on AJ, Mario and no one else going down.

TexanSam · 10-09-2011

Oh my god.

**EllisUnit** · 10-09-2011

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Originally Posted by TexanSam

Oh my god.

i dont know how much longer my heart can take this ****...........

Texecutioner · 10-09-2011

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Oh my god.

DexmanC · 10-09-2011

Dude panicked while the team was down only 8, with more than ten
minutes to play. He just stopped running the ball, and decided
to pass-scheme the team to victory. He costs the team at least
two wins a year.

Today was #1.

10-09-2011	#2
tedr Veteran Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 227 Rep Power: 378	Re: Kubiaks Demise. Not sure where Kubiak gets the reputation of being an offensive genius. This half has been absolutely pathetic, even taking into accout not having Andre. The defense has been pretty shabby as well.

10-09-2011	#4
Ckw Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Kubiaks Demise. I long for the day we finally fire this piece of ****. I have never wanted to see someone lose their job so bad in my entire life. Offensive genius my ass. Kubiak is a fraud that got his name because of Mike Shanahan, Steve Young, and John Elway. Without those guys, Kubiak would be a nobody.

10-09-2011	#5
EllisUnit Homerism Champ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Antonio Section: 2" from the TV, Screaming. Age: 28 Posts: 4,180 Rep Power: 16441	Re: Kubiaks Demise. well finally a smart call. wow that was tough __________________ Texans will beat NE in the AFC Championship, and win this seasons Super Bowl !!!! 6-11-2013

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Runner Hubcap Diamond Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,436 Rep Power: 6068	Re: Kubiaks Demise. Why would Kubes' job be in danger? He is the same as he's always been. He may get an extension this week. __________________ Amy glances out the window; her hair, skin, and clothes take on a pronounced reddish tinge from Doppler effect as she drops out of the conversation at relativistic velocity. - Cryptonomicon

10-09-2011	#1
EllisUnit Homerism Champ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Antonio Section: 2" from the TV, Screaming. Age: 28 Posts: 4,180 Rep Power: 16441	Kubiaks Demise. Conservative. In the 1st half we have a shot for a 48 yard field goal, and we punt, we had the ball 3 and 1 2 times in their territory and we punt. We are so predictable on play calling it gets a little disturbing at times. I like Kubiak and what he can do with an offense, BUT to never take any risks, to never go for it and to just go pure flat on playing and play calling is unexcusable. and these refs are being slightly biased. __________________ Texans will beat NE in the AFC Championship, and win this seasons Super Bowl !!!! 6-11-2013

10-09-2011	#11
EllisUnit Homerism Champ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Antonio Section: 2" from the TV, Screaming. Age: 28 Posts: 4,180 Rep Power: 16441	Re: Kubiaks Demise. see why, a short simple pass to get yards maybe a draw, to get close but that, a sack __________________ Texans will beat NE in the AFC Championship, and win this seasons Super Bowl !!!! 6-11-2013

10-09-2011	#17
TexanSam Hall of Fame Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston Age: 26 Posts: 16,664 Rep Power: 23578	Re: Kubiaks Demise. Oh my god. __________________ Thanks to Premier

10-09-2011	#20
DexmanC Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,422 Rep Power: 13826	The Return of Gary "Kutebiak." Dude panicked while the team was down only 8, with more than ten minutes to play. He just stopped running the ball, and decided to pass-scheme the team to victory. He costs the team at least two wins a year. Today was #1. __________________ R.I.P. EXCUSES (2006-2009) The First Twelve Games (Where Playoff Teams Are Made): 2007: (5-7) \| 2008: (5-7) \| 2009: (5-7) \| 2010: (5-7) \| 2011: (9-3)

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