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Old 10-10-2011   #161
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as far as Mario goes, it's time to accept the fact that he's injury prone.
Are we applying the same thought process to Andre?
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I love Andre, but that's just not true at all. What a complete homer statement.

Why isn't it true? Andre is a Top 10 NFL player and the best wide receiver in the game. Kenny Britt is the #1 receiver on a Titans team that is generally worthless and has been predicated on Chris Johnson for the last couple of years. The only reason Kenny Britt was worth even the slightest of damns early this year was because Matt Hasselbeck is a decent quarterback.
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Are we applying the same thought process to Andre?
If I have to be completely honest....yep, we are. Andre Johnson is also developing a injury prone label. Especially with his lower body, he's always getting leg injuries. With Mario it's usually his upper body.
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If I have to be completely honest....yep, we are. Andre Johnson is also developing a injury prone label. Especially with his lower body, he's always getting leg injuries. With Mario it's usually his upper body.
Can't really debate the point then.

I'm thinking that Mario gets franchised or gets re-signed anyway by the Texans. Bob has shown that he likes 1st round picks who produce and I think Mario showed in the 5 games that he played that he can work in a 3-4 defense. I mean shit, they franchised Dunta Robinson and I'm sure a lot more people thought he wasn't worth that kind of money for 1 year. I think they are going to do that whether it's the right move or not.

I'm not sure if there are too many coaches who would say no to having a guy like Williams on the team (who knows this is rampant speculation at this point) if Kubiak gets the axe after the season. Who really knows. I guess it does hinge on how Brooks Reed does trying to fill that role.
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Why isn't it true? Andre is a Top 10 NFL player and the best wide receiver in the game. Kenny Britt is the #1 receiver on a Titans team that is generally worthless and has been predicated on Chris Johnson for the last couple of years. The only reason Kenny Britt was worth even the slightest of damns early this year was because Matt Hasselbeck is a decent quarterback.
LMAO, it's not true....because it simply ISN'T remotely true. Through 3 games Kenny Britt had 289 receiving yards and 3 TDs....that about a 100 yards and a score a game. With only 7 starts last year he had 775 yards and 9 TDs. A lot of Titan fans now feel he's their best player on their team...yes even over Chris Johnson who's completely inconsistent. Sorry but saying the Texans missing Andre Johnson for 3 games is a bigger blow than the Titans missing Kenny Britt for the entire year is a completely homer thing to say and it simply isn't true.

If everything the Texans are saying is true (which I have absolutely 0 confidence in, but for this argument let's say they're correct) Andre will only miss a couple of more games and then he'll be back on the field again......Kenny Britt ain't walking through that door until next season.
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Andre Johnson being out for 3 games is more important than Kenny Britt being out for the rest of the year.

I don't give a shit.
Probably true but only because we've made no effort to improve the depth behind him. If there was one other quality WR in the group it would be something you deal with a move on. Instead it's liable to be 3 losses.

That's on Gary right there. He'll get no argument from me about that.
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Probably true but only because we've made no effort to improve the depth behind him. If there was one other quality WR in the group it would be something you deal with a move on. Instead it's liable to be 3 losses.

That's on Gary right there. He'll get no argument from me about that.

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We should've kept Anderson. He's been decent for the Pats.
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Probably true but only because we've made no effort to improve the depth behind him. If there was one other quality WR in the group it would be something you deal with a move on. Instead it's liable to be 3 losses.

That's on Gary right there. He'll get no argument from me about that.
Where's all the great options behind Kenny Britt? They have faired no better with their WR depth than we have. In fact they have been worse. Their leading receiver yesterday only had 69 yards (Their leading receiver in the previous game only had 62 yards and that was even with a 57 yard reception) and since Britt went out Matt Hasslebeck has completed less than 60% of his passes and hasn't thrown for more than 262 yards... Schaub threw for 416 yards yesterday and that's WITH 7 batted passes.
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what is it with houston and injury prone star players?
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You want Jordy Nelson at WR2, How about NT Paul Soliai or CB Carlos Rodgers? If you franchise MW you could probably trade him for a 1st and a 3rd and sign atleast 2 if not all 3 of those guys in FA and upgrade the team.
I think we franchise Mario, but won't get a 1st for him, much less a 1st & a 3rd, two years from playing DE... half a year at that. Mario is Mario & teams know what they can get from him, but it would have to be someone desperate for a DE to give Mario the money that's being talked about, plus give up a 1st & a 3rd.

I just don't see it..... we'll franchise him & screw our cap situation. Hopefully Mario wants to be a Texan, & Rick Smith can talk him into a multi-year deal now. Reasonable for his production over the last three years, injuries & all.

Then pull the rug from under him & trade him.

It's just business.
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If I have to be completely honest....yep, we are. Andre Johnson is also developing a injury prone label. Especially with his lower body, he's always getting leg injuries. With Mario it's usually his upper body.
Where exactly is a foot, or a groin? & what part of the body does a "sports hernia" usually affect?
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Where exactly is a foot, or a groin? & what part of the body does a "sports hernia" usually affect?
Yep, you're right...Mario is just banged up everywhere.

It's a miracle he hasn't missed significant time a lot sooner. Look on the bright side though...the man just became much MUCH more affordable to re-sign.
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I think it's time we take a hard look at our strength and conditioning staff. Something is not right.
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Resigning Mario will also depend on what coaching staff is here.
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I think it's time we take a hard look at our strength and conditioning staff. Something is not right.
Yup, this sucks. We are now looking at a season without Mario, Casey, and likely a less then 100% Andre. Add that to Butler's injury and we are looking incredibly thin at all positions on this team. Hopefully Ward and Tate aren't out too much longer.
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I think it's time we take a hard look at our strength and conditioning staff. Something is not right.
100% agreed on this. Been saying it for a while.
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I think it's time we take a hard look at our strength and conditioning staff. Something is not right.
Isn't that comment made every year whenever an injury occurs? With no substantiation whatsoever?

I know this is going to be a major shock to everyone, but the Texans' injury situation is no different than any other team.
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I think we franchise Mario, but won't get a 1st for him, much less a 1st & a 3rd, two years from playing DE... half a year at that. Mario is Mario & teams know what they can get from him, but it would have to be someone desperate for a DE to give Mario the money that's being talked about, plus give up a 1st & a 3rd.

I just don't see it..... we'll franchise him & screw our cap situation. Hopefully Mario wants to be a Texan, & Rick Smith can talk him into a multi-year deal now. Reasonable for his production over the last three years, injuries & all.

Then pull the rug from under him & trade him.

It's just business.
I believe that could be the WORST thing you could do.

If you sign him to a new contract and then trade him you get all his signing bonus come onto the cap at once and we would be in cap HELL.

Confirmation I have this right?
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Damnmit.

I went away to the lake this weekend for Thanksgiving - and came back into civilization to find out Al Davis had died, the footballing gods had given Oakland the win, and that Mario is done for the year. Outside of still being top of the AFC South there's very little consolation.

I'm staying inside a little bit more.

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