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Old 10-10-2011   #141
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Default Re: Super Mario might be out of the season

This injury hurts, no doubt. However, he is less essential to the success of the team than about 10 other players, IMO. I don't think his absence will effect the pass rush very much. However, it is going to hurt our rush defense. If A.Smith and Watt stay healthy and Mitchell can continue to improve, the hits on the QB will keep coming. Reed/Braman don't have to get sacks, they just have to hit that edge and force the QB forward into the pocket. They can do that. Also, Wade will be able to disguise the rush more with a true tweener on the weak side.

Key for the season: OTs stay healthy and AJ comes back very, very soon!

I think the Casey injury is just as big of an issue for the team. Hopefully, he's not gone for the season (no, that doesn't mean I think Casey is better than Mario).
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This injury hurts, no doubt. However, he is less essential to the success of the team than about 10 other players, IMO. I don't think his absence will effect the pass rush very much. However, it is going to hurt our rush defense. If A.Smith and Watt stay healthy and Mitchell can continue to improve, the hits on the QB will keep coming. Reed/Braman don't have to get sacks, they just have to hit that edge and force the QB forward into the pocket. They can do that. Also, Wade will be able to disguise the rush more with a true tweener on the weak side.

Key for the season: OTs stay healthy and AJ comes back very, very soon!

I think the Casey injury is just as big of an issue for the team. Hopefully, he's not gone for the season (no, that doesn't mean I think Casey is better than Mario).
Would love to hear the 10 names you are thinking of.
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Even with injuries, this better be playoffs or bust for Kubiak.
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This injury hurts, no doubt. However, he is less essential to the success of the team than about 10 other players, IMO. I don't think his absence will effect the pass rush very much. However, it is going to hurt our rush defense. If A.Smith and Watt stay healthy and Mitchell can continue to improve, the hits on the QB will keep coming. Reed/Braman don't have to get sacks, they just have to hit that edge and force the QB forward into the pocket. They can do that. Also, Wade will be able to disguise the rush more with a true tweener on the weak side.

Key for the season: OTs stay healthy and AJ comes back very, very soon!

I think the Casey injury is just as big of an issue for the team. Hopefully, he's not gone for the season (no, that doesn't mean I think Casey is better than Mario).
I guess you didn't watch the second half yesterday? You know, the one where Oakland's offense was significantly better then when Mario was playing?
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Would love to hear the 10 names you are thinking of.
Same here, considering Mario is probably the best defensive player we have. We don't have Mario Williams and we don't have Andre Johnson. That's our best offensive player and our best defensive player.

Then it goes Foster, Joseph, Schaub, Cushing, and DeMeco...probably. Not to mention Tate and Ward, who are critical to Foster's success.
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Yep, surgery for the torn Pec. Not sure what I think about the Texans chances now.
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Who did the Packers lose that would be the equivalent of an Arian Foster, Mario Williams, or Andre Johnson?

Our team seems to be built on superstars with depth surrounding them. We have 2-3 amazing players on both sides of the ball with a bunch of lunch pail guys filling in the other spots.

When our big players go down, it destroys the game plan. Its like whats happening to the Colts, but on a much, much smaller level
Every team deals with injuries.....this is NOT a excuse.

As far as the packers go... Ryan Grant, Jermichael Finley, and Nick Barnet..and a LOT more players

And why are you listing Arian Foster and Andre Johnson as "players lost"? They are players who missed/will miss games, but they will both be back. Players miss game ALL THE TIME, it's a norm in this league.

Sorry the injury excuse doesn't remotely fly here. The Titans actually LOST their #1 wideout and that is the team we'll have to compete with in order to win this division. NO EXCUSES, Kubiak either takes this team to the playoffs or he gets canned.

as far as Mario goes, it's time to accept the fact that he's injury prone. There's ALWAYS something wrong with him and he always gets banged up every year...the only difference here is he finally got a injury that sidelined him. Oh well, this is why we drafted Brooks Reed, which now looks like a great decision. Imagine how fast we'd be scrambling right now if we didn't make that pick? let's see what he can do and honestly he didn't play that bad when he came into the game. This could actually turn out to be a blessing in disguise for us. Look at it this way, Brooks Reed will now get MUCH valuable on the field experience and Mario Williams just became much MUCH more affordable to re-sign in the offseason.
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This sucks big time. I liked the effort Braman showed in TC and so far on special teams. Him and Reed need to step up now.....
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Just "another"? There are like 17 ****ing threads.
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YEah Yeah Yeah.. I see it now in the other Mario Hurt thread.. Sue me...
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Default Re: Super Mario might be out of the season

It's seems to be official... Mario out for the season. More and more outlets are starting to report it.

It's a shame, Mario was on pace for a career season... as well as this defense.

This injury will answer alot of the debates that go on in this forum. Is Mario worth the big money? Should Mario go back to DE and have Brooks Reed play OLB? Is Brooks Reed a better OLB than Mario?

From my view, Reed hasn't been too impressive. He's fast, but gets pushed out of the play too easily. I think he needed more time to learn to become an every down starter. He's going to need to learn fast now and step up!
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Andre Johnson being out for 3 games is more important than Kenny Britt being out for the rest of the year.

I don't give a shit.
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It's seems to be official... Mario out for the season. More and more outlets are starting to report it.

It's a shame, Mario was on pace for a career season... as well as this defense.

This injury will answer alot of the debates that go on in this forum. Is Mario worth the big money? Should Mario go back to DE and have Brooks Reed play OLB? Is Brooks Reed a better OLB than Mario?

From my view, Reed hasn't been too impressive. He's fast, but gets pushed out of the play too easily. I think he needed more time to learn to become an every down starter. He's going to need to learn fast now and step up!
From the brief view that I've had of Reed so far, I thought he was doing exactly what Mario was doing too much of a couple years ago, just trying to get to the QB with a speed-to-the-outside rush. It seemed like Reed was ending up 2 or 3 yards past the QB, as the Tackle just used his speed against him and guided him well into the backfield.

I have high hopes for Reed, but I am worried that he just isn't quite ready yet. My thoughts don't matter now though as he is the next man up.
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This sucks big time. I liked the effort Braman showed in TC and so far on special teams. Him and Reed need to step up now.....
looked to me like he was the one that f'ed up on the punt block yesterday. for some reason he blocked inside on some1 elses guy eventhough barber was pointing for him to take one of the two outside guys. 1 of those 2 got round barber and got a hand in
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The decision isn't: Brooks Reed or Mario Williams. Re-signing Mario means giving him a huge signing bonus and a deal worth around $12-$15 per year. The real question is whether that money can be better spent. I think it can. That being said, of course the Texans are worse without Mario this year. After all, he is almost 15% of our salary cap and he can't produce anything on I.R. Hopefully, it's a grade one tear and we can get him back in a few weeks.
Thanks Dale, this is what I was saying.

The $$$$ could be better spent. IMHO

Of course I knew all of the MW nut huggers would come out in full force. But it made for an interesting conversation.

You want Jordy Nelson at WR2, How about NT Paul Soliai or CB Carlos Rodgers? If you franchise MW you could probably trade him for a 1st and a 3rd and sign atleast 2 if not all 3 of those guys in FA and upgrade the team.

So say you had 2 1st, 2 3rds Jordy Nelson and Carlos Rodgers. Would the team be better? We're about to find out what this team will be without MW. I think some are going to be suprised.

BTW, In FA the Texans are going to have to choose between keeping AF or MW. Which way would you go? Give me AF.
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http://nfltraderumors.co/2012-nfl-free-agents/

lots of good pro-bowl WR's in that list.

I could see a sign and trade happening for Mario. Now that he is done for the year, I can't see us paying him more than 10 mil a year. If he accepts that? sure, I'd love to have him back. But I'm not sure I would franchise him (as I would foster).
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Andre Johnson being out for 3 games is more important than Kenny Britt being out for the rest of the year.

I don't give a shit.
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I love Andre, but that's just not true at all. What a complete homer statement.
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