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Old 10-10-2011   #241
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Vernon Gholston? I don't want that roid freak anywhere near Brian Cushing. Cush is on the 12 step program and it's working.
I don't either but we have to sign someone. Just wondering if he is a consideration.

Does the NFL salary cap offer any kind of salary relief for injured players with big contracts? I know they do it in the NBA.
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Give Gholston the benefit of the doubt. MW is gone, give anothe combine freak a shot.
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i understand what the stats say, but i noticed it, hell everyone noticed it once mario left our D line was almost to the point of ineffective. You can say the LBs and Safety continued to play well as Nolan and Cushing both got sacks BUT not the D-Line. Smith was invisible, i didnt hear his name once.
I still saw Jamison, Barwin, Reed, & Smith get licks on Campbell.

I guarantee you ask Campbell how invisible our line was he'll tell you he never lost sight of them.

In New Orleans, when he wasn't out there, there was nothing from the line. Not so much vs Oakland, the guys were stepping up.
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I didn't notice a big noticeable change and it's about pressure....who the heck cares WHERE it came from, we were still able to supply it.
It matters whether you are sending four guys or seven to get pressure.

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You are wrong already. They have two sacks after he went out.
Cushing and Nolan are on the Dline now?
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It matters whether you are sending four guys or seven to get pressure.



Cushing and Nolan are on the Dline now?
So the Texans will have to blitz more to get pressure...I guess nobody else in the league does that now? Hell alot of teams do nothing, but bring the heat..some DCs entire scheme is based on that.

This is still a 3-4 defense so I have no problem with the sacks coming from our OLBers or even ILBers in timely blitzes. Yes not having Mario is a blow, but look on a bright side. Teams aren't going to know who to key in on, because they won't know where the heat is coming from either.
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It matters whether you are sending four guys or seven to get pressure.



Cushing and Nolan are on the Dline now?
As long as you get there it matters how? The Texans got there early and often. Campbell played a good game and hung in there knowing he would get clobbered. That's a distinct difference compared to Shoelace Schaub.
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It matters whether you are sending four guys or seven to get pressure.



Cushing and Nolan are on the Dline now?
Exactly. Jason Allen not, I am betting the outside blitzes had something to do with DHB's success. Basically relegating to 10 yard cushions because all the support is blitzing. It's all up to Phillips to disguise the loss of Mario's impact better.

The loss of Mario hurts...
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So the Texans will have to blitz more to get pressure...I guess nobody else in the league does that now? Hell alot of teams do nothing, but bring the heat..some DCs entire scheme is based on that.

This is still a 3-4 defense so I have no problem with the sacks coming from our OLBers or even ILBers in timely blitzes. Yes not having Mario is a blow, but look on a bright side. Teams aren't going to know who to key in on, because they won't know where the heat is coming from either.
Every team in the NFL would love to not have to blitz to get pressure. The less you blitz, the more you can leave in coverage. We were one of the teams that had good pressure packages without the blitz. Now, not so much.
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Does the NFL salary cap offer any kind of salary relief for injured players with big contracts? I know they do it in the NBA.
Nope.
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So the Texans will have to blitz more to get pressure...I guess nobody else in the league does that now? Hell alot of teams do nothing, but bring the heat..some DCs entire scheme is based on that.

This is still a 3-4 defense so I have no problem with the sacks coming from our OLBers or even ILBers in timely blitzes. Yes not having Mario is a blow, but look on a bright side. Teams aren't going to know who to key in on, because they won't know where the heat is coming from either.
Regardless.

We're talking about a team that only gave up 2 sacks in the previous five weeks. Did none of those teams blitz?

When Mario got his sack.... did we only send 4?

Did we only blitz "because" Mario left the game? I don't think so, I bet we played everything the same way we would have if Mario was in the game. Maybe Mario would have got another sack, maybe we'd have blitzed one, maybe two times less. Maybe three..... it doesn't really matter. That's not the point.

The Raiders haven't given up three sacks in any game this year, they did against what we were able to put on the field.
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Every team in the NFL would love to not have to blitz to get pressure. The less you blitz, the more you can leave in coverage. We were one of the teams that had good pressure packages without the blitz. Now, not so much.
I don't know if we can say that yet. Oakland has given up 5 sacks so far this year.... 3 of them were to them boys on Kirby. We don't know how we would have done without blitzing, with Mario in the game.

Next week, we play another team in the top ten as far as not giving up sacks..... the Ravens have given up 8 sacks in four games. I'm sure we are going to have to blitz & were going to have to with Mario.

Tennessee is even better, giving up 7 sacks in 5 games.
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If Mario is done with the Texans then tag and trade him but do not just let him walk.
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Normally I'm not a fan of that excuse, but when your #1 offensive and #1 defensive player are both out for extended periods of time (not to mention the #2 offensive player) it actually does become more valid.

We've been without our top talent all year. The "everythings shaping up for the Texans" season is becoming completely derailed by injuries
Kubiak - SIX SEASONS - BARELY SNIFFING .500

Jim Schwarz - Only TWO SEASONS - Going to 5-0, and beating
the shit out of a top division rival, winning 3 on the road.

Kubiak does NOTHING to merit EXCUSES.
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mario is a beast and this is a massive loss for us!
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mario is a beast and this is a massive loss for us!
Indeed. On the other hand Wade Phillips is a defensive genius (according to the Houston Texans PR department & John McClain....but I repeat myself) and so he should have no trouble continuing to put an effective defense on the field using the pile of spare parts he has accumulated since arriving.

Right?
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Indeed. On the other hand Wade Phillips is a defensive genius (according to the Houston Texans PR department & John McClain....but I repeat myself) and so he should have no trouble continuing to put an effective defense on the field using the pile of spare parts he has accumulated since arriving.

Right?
Wade deserves the benefit of the doubt. Without an offseason, he has turned this defense around.
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Yes he did, no he did not.
Yes he is. no he is not.
Trade him, are you crazy?


I love talking about Mario!
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Cushing and Nolan are on the Dline now?
Just because the god of all linebackers Mario Williams is we will now have to send at least 7 evrytime just just to hope to get pressure on opposing QB's.

And no Cushing and nolan are not d-linemen. I know he said d-line but assumed he meant defense since he said 12 sacks which the actual d-line is no where close to having.
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