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Old 10-10-2011   #221
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It isn't like we couldn't franchise him if we wanted to keep him
(unless I am missing something)

It depends on reed though. If he steps up.........
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Dumb question .. is Mario an R or UR FA? Same with Foster ... can we use the franchise tag?
Mario will be an unrestricted free agent after this season. And the Texans can use the franchise tag on him.

Foster will still be an exclusive rights free agent after this season. He can only sign with the Texans.
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It isn't like we couldn't franchise him if we wanted to keep him
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It depends on reed though. If he steps up.........
If Reed steps up, Barwin may be odd man out. Oopps, Barwin is one of the 74 people more important to the Texans than Mario...my bad.
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Names of players that would have a bigger impact on the Texans' season this year
So you won't be playing the injury card to defend Kubiak, if he fails to win in 2011?
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Man, that would suck if Antonio Smith went on the I.R. Good thing he hasn't.

Mario's injury is going to affect our rush defense more than the pass rush, I think. Now, if we lose another pass rusher, then we are in some real trouble.
You can argue for or against MW till cows come home. Fact of the matter is that was 4th in sacks and the D, the pass rush, and Smith all disappeared after MW went down.

I've been very vocal about MW always ALMOST getting a sack but from what I saw yesterday things changed after he went down. No one else almost got a sack AND no one else got a sack after his injury.

Let's see what schemes Wade comes up with. We are gonna need someone to step up, FACT,
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You can argue for or against MW till cows come home. Fact of the matter is that was 4th in sacks and the D, the pass rush, and Smith all disappeared after MW went down.

I've been very vocal about MW always ALMOST getting a sack but from what I saw yesterday things changed after he went down. No one else almost got a sack AND no one else got a sack after his injury.

Let's see what schemes Wade comes up with. We are gonna need someone to step up, FACT,
Actually think it was number 5, or 4.5. Somewhere along those lines. Sacks aren't the only think to look at when judgeing impact, but the fact that people who had been wreaking havoc instantly vanished is a big neon sign.
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I believe we had 2 sacks after Mario went out: Brian Cushing and Troy Nolan.

The pressure definitely went down though.
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I believe we had 2 sacks after Mario went out: Brian Cushing and Troy Nolan.

The pressure definitely went down though.
And they had to use the blitz. Thats one thing they haven't had to do this year was send alot of blitzs. Just some stunts.
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You can argue for or against MW till cows come home. Fact of the matter is that was 4th in sacks and the D, the pass rush, and Smith all disappeared after MW went down.
I'm rewatching the game..... Mario got his sack early in the 1st qtr... that's also when he got hurt & left the game. Jason Campbell was sacked twice after that.... & he's taking a beating in the second half. Tim Jamison even dusted his cleats off with him a couple of times.

Plenty of pressure without the big guy.
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You can argue for or against MW till cows come home. Fact of the matter is that was 4th in sacks and the D, the pass rush, and Smith all disappeared after MW went down.

I've been very vocal about MW always ALMOST getting a sack but from what I saw yesterday things changed after he went down. No one else almost got a sack AND no one else got a sack after his injury.

Let's see what schemes Wade comes up with. We are gonna need someone to step up, FACT,
actually nolan did get a sack after MW went out, but as far as the D-Line went i thought they all left the field when mario left and said the F with it. thats about as much as they did the whole game.
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Damn we must be watching two completely different games, I still saw pressure after Mario went out...infact NFL.com already commented on it also.

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Our pass rush didn't fall off or completely disappear after Mario left the game. They kept suppling consistent pressure and almost went a whole other quarter without allowing a first down AFTER Mario went out. Not bad against a team that only allowed 1 sack on the season before yesterday's game.
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The pressure now is ALL on Brookes Reed. Can the guy play? Can Wade motivate him to be a destroyer of QB's? He is going to be scrutinized like no other rookie in our history has been.
david carr and kareem jackson say hello.

scratch that, pretty much every first round pick we've ever had who became instant starters say hello.
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Damn we must be watching two completely different , I still saw pressure after Mario went out...infact NFL.com already commented on it also.



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Our pass rush didn't fall off or completely disappear after Mario left the game. They kept suppling consistent pressure and almost went a whole other quarter without allowing a first down AFTER Mario went out. Not bad against a team that only allowed 1 sack on the season before yesterday's game.
i understand what the stats say, but i noticed it, hell everyone noticed it once mario left our D line was almost to the point of ineffective. You can say the LBs and Safety continued to play well as Nolan and Cushing both got sacks BUT not the D-Line. Smith was invisible, i didnt hear his name once.
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This sucks big donkey balls but the mario nutt huggers on here are ridiculous. He was playing the run really well but despite his sack number he wasn't killing it in the pass rush department. And he was not our best or most important defensive player. Does it suck he's hurt? He'll yes! But the hype over this is as overblown as his pass rush skills.

Wonder if we are considering signing what's his name that had a tryout recently. You know the guy the jets cut? Blanking on his name for some reason.
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This sucks big donkey balls but the mario nutt huggers on here are ridiculous. He was playing the run really well but despite his sack number he wasn't killing it in the pass rush department. And he was not our best or most important defensive player. Does it suck he's hurt? He'll yes! But the hype over this is as overblown as his pass rush skills.

Wonder if we are considering signing what's his name that had a tryout recently. You know the guy the jets cut? Blanking on his name for some reason.
ok we'll see how many more sacks this amazing d-line gets without him the rest of the season. they have 12 with him, and NONE once he went out sunday, so we'll finish this convo when the seasons over.
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Wonder if we are considering signing what's his name that had a tryout recently. You know the guy the jets cut? Blanking on his name for some reason.
Vernon Gholston? I don't want that roid freak anywhere near Brian Cushing. Cush is on the 12 step program and it's working.
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i understand what the stats say, but i noticed it, hell everyone noticed it once Mario left our D line was almost to the point of ineffective. You can say the LBs and Safety continued to play well as Nolan and Cushing both got sacks BUT not the D-Line. Smith was invisible, i didn't hear his name once.
I didn't notice a big noticeable change and it's about pressure....who the heck cares WHERE it came from, we were still able to supply it. Also the Raiders oline has been lights out this season....they've made every Dline they face "disappear" this season.

Are we a better team without Mario...nope and we are going to have to do things differently scheme wise with him out, but does that mean I think the pass rush is going to go into the crapper also. Most definitely not, I still have a lot of confidence in Phillips ability to get after the opposing QB with the players we have on this roster.
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ok we'll see how many more sacks this amazing d-line gets without him the rest of the season. they have 12 with him, and NONE once he went out sunday, so we'll finish this convo when the seasons over.
You are wrong already. They have two sacks after he went out.
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You are wrong already. They have two sacks after he went out.
It took more rushers w/o MW than with MW to equal the same pressure, though. Losing MW is a huge blow.
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Could u image Mario in a packers Uni or even a steeler !!!!!!!!!! that would be scary
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