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Old 10-06-2011   #1
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OK, after four weeks, let's look at the stats. They are starting to tell a story. All numbers are the current league ranking according to ESPN.

Oakland Offense
total yards 8th
rushing yds 1
passing yds 22
points 7

Houston Offense
total yds 10
rushing yds 4
passing yds 20
points 8

Oakland Defense
total yds 29
rushing yds 29
passing yds 22
points 30

Houston Defense
total yds 10
rushing yds 18
passing yds 10
points 4

On offense, the stats are a wash. No real advantage to either side. Defensive stats tell another story though. Our defense has clearly played better. Given a home field advantage, even without AJ, the stats are on our side. Their defense can be had. Being 30th in the league in points allowed as opposed to our being 4th in the league should work to our advantage.

But as we all know, it's a new team every Sunday given the history of both Oakland and Houston. We shall see what we shall see.
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I think the key will be getting an early lead and keeping that lead to force the Raiders into throwing the ball more. McFadden is going to get his no matter what, but if we can change their game-plan and get them to abandon the run I think we'll be a lot better off.

The worrisome thing is how will Arian do after his 30 carry performance against the Steelers and will Ogbonnaya be effective as the number 2 back as it seems that may be the case Sunday. Looking for a lot of 2-3 TE sets to get OD and Dressen involved to make up for the absence of AJ and more creative ways to get Casey the ball as well. We have the weapons to fill in for AJ, hopefully Schaub can go through his progressions quickly, i'm confident he will be able to with our OL.

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1. Raiders need to play smart football: Sometimes the Raiders can be their own worst enemy. They have been penalized more than any team in the NFL, and the flags often seem to come at the worst of times, killing their own drives while sustaining their opponent's. Look for an emphasis on playing smart football as Oakland continues to make a run for the AFC West lead.

2. Continue to provide help: Since losing cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha to free agency, the Raiders have lacked a shutdown corner. He was one of the few corners that could match up with receivers like Andre Johnson and hold his own. But with Johnson out, don't expect the Texans to completely abandon the idea of stretching the field. Expect at least some two-deep zone schemes with help over the top if the Texans try to take some shots.

3. Protect the pocket: What was supposed to be a weakness for the Raiders has turned out to be a strength. The offensive line has given only two sacks this season to lead the NFL and will be looking at a strong blitz package with the Houston Texans' new 3-4 defensive front, with defensive coordinator Wade Phillips loving to bring pressure. If they can continue to protect quarterback Jason Campbell with minimum protection, the more receivers they can send out to challenge a questionable secondary.

4. Run the ball: The Raiders' ground game has steadily improved during the past few years, and this year it appears to have reached maturity. They are leading the NFL in both rushing yards per game and yards per carry. They have a dynamic duo of ball carriers with Darren McFadden carrying the load and Michael Bush coming in on short-yardage and goal line situations. The more Oakland can control the line of scrimmage and the game clock, the longer it can keep the ball out of the hands of Houston's explosive offense.

5. Matchup to watch: Oakland left tackle Jared Veldheer vs. Houston linebacker Mario Williams: Veldheer has established himself and looks like a keeper. He does an excellent job of protecting Campbell's blind side as well as creating movement for the running game. He will be facing one of the league's most dynamic edge rushers in Williams, who has successfully made the transition from defensive end to outside linebacker.

6. Force the Raiders to play catch-up: The Texans can be one of the most explosive teams in the NFL with their ability to attack the secondary, not just with Johnson, but through the seams with tight end Owen Daniels. They also possess a strong ground game. They know that the Raiders are most effective when running the ball and lack the quick-strike ability needed to come from behind and beat a solid opponent.

7. Get the ground game going: Oakland struggles on defense when it comes to stopping the run. The Raiders are ranked 26th in the league against the run -- allowing 120 yards per game -- and are dead last in yards per carry at 5.8. Houston head coach Gary Kubiak is not afraid to stick with the run as his Texans are averaging nearly 140 yards a game, fifth best in the NFL, and 4.06 yards per carry, 15th best.

8. Win the kicking game: The Raiders have two of the strongest legs in the NFL in kicker Sebastian Janikowski and punter Shane Lechler. Unfortunately, they lack great coverage units on special teams and have not been explosive with their own return specialists. Oakland has given up one touchdown on a punt return while the Houston has recorded one of its own via the punt return.

9. Look for run the run blitz: While most recognize Phillips' ability to bring pressure on the pocket with his variety of blitzes, he also does a great job of designing run blitzes that allow his defense to fill all the running lanes and force the opponent to run laterally rather than north and south.

10. Matchup to watch: Houston running back Arian Foster vs. Oakland linebacker Rolando McClain: Foster returned to relatively full strength this past Sunday as he carried the ball 30 times for 155 yards against the normally stingy Pittsburgh Steelers. He is a workhorse ball carrier who wears defenses down and consistently gains two or three extra yards after contact. McClain has a great nose for the ball and is a solid tackler both in the hole as well as in space.

Oakland 17
Houston 27
ESPN AccuScore prediction:
OAK 24.7
HOU 27.6

TeamRankings.com prediciton:
Oakland 17.7
Houston 24.3

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I think the DL will eat Campbell alive. They've got athletic receivers but I think we've got the hosses to matchup and give the necessary time to get to Campbell. The Raiders will have to beat them up on the ground with McFadden and just go bonkers scoring rushing TDs.

On offense, the Texans have a pretty distinct advantage. Their D may get up a little for this game but if the Steelers can't shut them down I certainly don't buy the Raiders doing any better.

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I think the DL will eat Campbell alive. They've got athletic receivers but I think we've got the hosses to matchup and give the necessary time to get to Campbell. The Raiders will have to beat them up on the ground with McFadden and just go bonkers scoring rushing TDs.

On offense, the Texans have a pretty distinct advantage. Their D may get up a little for this game but if the Steelers can't shut them down I certainly don't buy the Raiders doing any better.
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OK, after four weeks, let's look at the stats. They are starting to tell a story. All numbers are the current league ranking according to ESPN.

Oakland Offense
total yards 8th
rushing yds 1
passing yds 22
points 7

Houston Offense
total yds 10
rushing yds 4
passing yds 20
points 8

Oakland Defense
total yds 29
rushing yds 29
passing yds 22
points 30

Houston Defense
total yds 10
rushing yds 18
passing yds 10
points 4

On offense, the stats are a wash. No real advantage to either side. Defensive stats tell another story though. Our defense has clearly played better. Given a home field advantage, even without AJ, the stats are on our side. Their defense can be had. Being 30th in the league in points allowed as opposed to our being 4th in the league should work to our advantage.

But as we all know, it's a new team every Sunday given the history of both Oakland and Houston. We shall see what we shall see.
The problem with stats like those.

Raider's defense has played: The up-start Bills, Tom Brady and the Patriots, and the 2x running AFC Championship loser (good team), and of course the lowly Broncos but they did so in Denver.

Now lets see what the Texans defense had to face: The Manning-less Colts, the Hapless 0-4 Dollfans, the Saints (they lost, but played a good game), and the tired and old Steelers.

What does it all mean? To me, it means the stats don't really tell the story. Sure, the Texans could and should win, but don't think the Raiders are a push over. In fact, if the Raiders do win, I would not consider it to be an upset.
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In fact, if the Raiders do win, I would not consider it to be an upset.
In terms of the two football teams, I would consider it an upset if the Texans lost. But with Houston, you just never know. This is a game the Texans should win if they are what we hope they are.
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In terms of the two football teams, I would consider it an upset if the Texans lost. But with Houston, you just never know. This is a game the Texans should win if they are what we hope they are.
Just to clarify. In my mind, Seattle beating the Patriots is an upset. The Raiders beating the Texans is not. I haven't looked, but I assume the Texans are the points favorite in Vegas, so I guess in that regard it would be an upset. As far as talent? The Raiders have some very impressive young talent on both sides of the ball, and have two of the best kickers in the NFL. So, I don't think them beating anybody in the NFL right now would be seen as an upset. Likewise, I don't think the Texans beating any other team right now could be seen as an upset.
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Just to clarify. In my mind, Seattle beating the Patriots is an upset. The Raiders beating the Texans is not. I haven't looked, but I assume the Texans are the points favorite in Vegas, so I guess in that regard it would be an upset. As far as talent? The Raiders have some very impressive young talent on both sides of the ball, and have two of the best kickers in the NFL. So, I don't think them beating anybody in the NFL right now would be seen as an upset. Likewise, I don't think the Texans beating any other team right now could be seen as an upset.
I think if the Texans went into GB and beat the Packers it'd be an upset...

If we go into Baltimore and beat them, that's an upset...

I think the Raiders and Texans are both good teams, but if we lose to the Raiders it will be an upset IMO...Not a huge upset...but an upset none the less...
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I think if the Texans went into GB and beat the Packers it'd be an upset...

If we go into Baltimore and beat them, that's an upset...

I think the Raiders and Texans are both good teams, but if we lose to the Raiders it will be an upset IMO...Not a huge upset...but an upset none the less...
All I know is that if the Raiders lose, I'll be upset.
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I think the DL will eat Campbell alive. They've got athletic receivers but I think we've got the hosses to matchup and give the necessary time to get to Campbell. The Raiders will have to beat them up on the ground with McFadden and just go bonkers scoring rushing TDs.

On offense, the Texans have a pretty distinct advantage. Their D may get up a little for this game but if the Steelers can't shut them down I certainly don't buy the Raiders doing any better.

Texans 27 - Raiders 14
Obviously the teams they've played so far aren't really known for good defenses (maybe the Jets). But still, Campbell's only been sacked twice in 4 games. So that, and the fact we'll likely be focusing on the run a lot more than the past. I don't see many sacks coming out of this game.

However, it'd be nice to jump out with a decent lead. Then have them pin their ears back and go after Campbell
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Obviously the teams they've played so far aren't really known for good defenses (maybe the Jets). But still, Campbell's only been sacked twice in 4 games. So that, and the fact we'll likely be focusing on the run a lot more than the past. I don't see many sacks coming out of this game.

However, it'd be nice to jump out with a decent lead. Then have them pin their ears back and go after Campbell
One of the reasons you don't see so many sacks of Campbell is Al Saunders. He is the same OC that helped Priest Holmes and Larry Johnson look great in KC. He specializes in playing to a players strengths, and loves to run the screen pass. This is where McFadden may become really dangerous to the Texans.
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In terms of the two football teams, I would consider it an upset if the Texans lost. But with Houston, you just never know. This is a game the Texans should win if they are what we hope they are.
Meh... Texans win by 17..... 31-14(ish)


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I hope you are upset come Sunday. No offense and nothing personal.



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The problem with stats like those.

Raider's defense has played: The up-start Bills, Tom Brady and the Patriots, and the 2x running AFC Championship loser (good team), and of course the lowly Broncos but they did so in Denver.

Now lets see what the Texans defense had to face: The Manning-less Colts, the Hapless 0-4 Dollfans, the Saints (they lost, but played a good game), and the tired and old Steelers.

What does it all mean? To me, it means the stats don't really tell the story. Sure, the Texans could and should win, but don't think the Raiders are a push over. In fact, if the Raiders do win, I would not consider it to be an upset.

I love the spin on this. The up-start Bills vs the old and tired Steelers. Do you really think the Bills are that much better then the Steelers?
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I love the spin on this. The up-start Bills vs the old and tired Steelers. Do you really think the Bills are that much better then the Steelers?
The "old and tired" or was it "slow", was said tongue-in-cheek with reference to what someone said about them in the media; maybe Sapp? And yes, the Bills are an upstart team, considering some pundits thought they would be one of the worst teams this season. As for better? If they are what their record says they are, then yes 3-1 trumps 2-2.
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We have the weapons to fill in for AJ, hopefully Schaub can go through his progressions quickly, i'm confident he will be able to with our OL.
I think a lower scoring game will always favor the Texans. When we are out there trying to score 30, that's when we have those unbelievable goof-ups. That's when we Romo it all to hell.

I think the Raider's DL will be a challenge. Major accomplishment if they can keep Schaub upright.
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I'll be upset if the Raiders beat us at home. I think we're a much better team... our core has been together much longer.

If the Raiders win, it's an upset.
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The problem with stats like those.

Raider's defense has played: The up-start Bills, Tom Brady and the Patriots, and the 2x running AFC Championship loser (good team), and of course the lowly Broncos but they did so in Denver.

Now lets see what the Texans defense had to face: The Manning-less Colts, the Hapless 0-4 Dollfans, the Saints (they lost, but played a good game), and the tired and old Steelers.

What does it all mean? To me, it means the stats don't really tell the story. Sure, the Texans could and should win, but don't think the Raiders are a push over. In fact, if the Raiders do win, I would not consider it to be an upset.
This is what Texans fans used to say last year about our pass defense.

"Oh we played Manning..." or "Oh we played McNabb, he's still pretty good." "Oh we played Romo..."

Turns out that the Pass defense WAS really that bad no matter the opposing QB.

Not saying that this is the case with the Raiders, but a trend is developing for that defense and you guys are not exactly coming in to play a lowly struggling offense or even a mediocre one.

But I agree that the Raiders are far from pushovers, I think they have a real chance to win the AFCW this year.
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I'll be upset if the Raiders beat us at home. I think we're a much better team... our core has been together much longer.

If the Raiders win, it's an upset.
Once again, the USA Hockey team beating the Soviets way back when, THAT WAS AN UPSET. In today's football, most any team can when on any given Sunday. So, for the most part there aren't too many upsets any more. This is what parity got us. Wow!

Anyway, not all underdog victories are upsets. Not IMHO anyway.
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Once again, the USA Hockey team beating the Soviets way back when, THAT WAS AN UPSET. In today's football, most any team can when on any given Sunday. So, for the most part there aren't too many upsets any more. This is what parity got us. Wow!

Anyway, not all underdog victories are upsets. Not IMHO anyway.
Once again, it may not be an upset in the true sense of the word. But it's been a long time coming & I think the Texans are in for a special season. Losing to the Raiders is not part of my idea of a special season.

It will be an upset to me & I guarantee it will be an upset to most every H-town Texans' fan.

Nothing against you or the Raiders, this is an internal "family" affair.
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